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Early 2007 I'm buying parts for a new system.<br>
The overall budget is 600€ ~ 750 $.<br><br>
So far I go with:<br>
AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 2400 MHz, Orleans.<br>
A fine NForce5 Mainboard (Don't need SLI) <- Ideas?<br>
2x512 DDR2-667 (Could go with 2x a gig or DDR2-800, but they are so expensive these days.)<br>
Scythe Ninja (might want to overclock.)<br>
ExelStar J8805 (SATA) <- Mainly need a fast HDD, don't care about space (need like 20GB)<br><br>
AND the Graphics Card: I have no clue.<br>
I own a Radeon 9800Pro and it works good.<br>
Should I go with GeForce this time?<br>
My GC budget 200€ ~ 250 $. I bassicly want to go with a non-budget version of the best that is not uber high end. (for geforce that would be 7 GT or GTX)<br><br>
Will DDR2 be worth to buy socket AM2?<br>
Socket 939 is cheaper.<br><br>
Will my 420W power supplie do fine? (I think its enough W, but is there any other specification to look for?)<br><br>
Apreciate any thoughts
 

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Hey buddy,<br><br>
I know u live in Europe, so im posting Newegg links to give you product names and such aswell as pics and net prices.<br><br>
Video card suggestion: Geforce 7950gt aprox 235€ (which is 290$ USD) <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130061" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130061</a><br>
or Geforce 7900gt aprox 200€ (211$ USD) <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150195" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150195</a><br><br>
Nice NF5 mobo eh? ==> Asus board $92 USD <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131022" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131022</a><br>
OR you can scroll through this page for others <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010200022+1070921489+107191805&Subcategory=22&description=&srchInDesc=" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...n=&srchInDesc=</a><br><br>
Harddrive, you might not "need" space, but with the $ per GB around 50cents, its a waste of money to get a 20GB HD. Heres a Nice 160gb HD for $55 SATA 3.0 <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144415" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144415</a><br><br>
RAM==> Corsair XMS2 1gb 2x512 - $140 <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145539" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145539</a><br><br>
AM2 is just a steping stone for AMD to go to DDR2 RAM. So ts ur choise which socket u want to go with. socket 939 is still kickin.<br><br>
Looks like a nice build man.<br><br>
Have fun and good luck<br>
~Higgins
 

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id get an ATI x1k series card - you get more for the money you pay, especially if you like oblivion.<br><br>
ATI's cards support FSAA and HDR simultaneous rendering and they also support avivo video converter if you like to do video conversion here and there.<br>
avivo video converter is just a driver that allows the gpu to help out when videos are converting, depending on system specs it could cut conversion time in half.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Early 2007 I'm buying parts for a new system.<br>
The overall budget is 600€ ~ 750 $.<br><br>
So far I go with:<br>
AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 2400 MHz, Orleans.<br>
A fine NForce5 Mainboard (Don't need SLI) <- Ideas?<br>
2x512 DDR2-667 (Could go with 2x a gig or DDR2-800, but they are so expensive these days.)<br>
Scythe Ninja (might want to overclock.)<br>
ExelStar J8805 (SATA) <- Mainly need a fast HDD, don't care about space (need like 20GB)<br><br>
My GC budget 200€ ~ 250 $. I bassicly want to go with a non-budget version of the best that is not uber high end. (for geforce that would be 7 GT or GTX)<br><br>
Will DDR2 be worth to buy socket AM2?<br>
Socket 939 is cheaper.<br><br>
Will my 420W power supplie do fine? (I think its enough W, but is there any other specification to look for?)<br><br>
Apreciate any thoughts</div>
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I have some ideas for your rig, I hope you'll find in Germany what I'm proposing here.<br><br>
First, for the VID card I'm thinking of a 7900GS. In the US it's close to the 200$ mark, so here it should be around 200€. Reviews from anadtech <a href="http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2835" target="_blank">here</a>. They seem to perform ok and to OC very well. For a bit of extra cash I'd go for the X1900GT/XT.<br><br>
Secondly, at least in France AM2 is cheaper than 939, at least in terms of the CPUs. For the mobo I have a sugestion if you're into OCing: DFI Infinity Ultra M2 review <a href="http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.377.2" target="_blank">here</a> . It has superb OCing abilities and it sells in France for around 100€, I suppose in DE it should be cheaper. If you don't want to OC I have no idea... maybe the MSI K9N Platinum (nf570) or ASUS M2NE. These are fine on stock, but as far as OCing they're not that good.<br><br>
The PSU might need an upgrade, specialy if you want a VID card around 200e, these tend to consume quite a lot. A generic PSU has an efficiecy of around 60% so in reality you have 60%x420W which is around 250W... not enough. When buying a new PSU you should look also at the 12V rail current (amps) which should be around 20A. Newer PSUs have more 12V rails, for example my Hiper TypeS 580W has 2 12V rails each with 20A. It's a good PSU, I recomend it and it's not that expensive.<br><br>
Lastly I'm thinking of the CPU. If you decide to get the DFI and OC you might as well get the 3500+ and save a few pennys since both the 3500 and the 3800 reach around 2.8-3.0GHz when OCed.<br><br>
Hope this helps. Cheers!
 

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Trust dragosmp and me, if your PSU aint up to par, this may happen to you:<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/proof.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Proof"><br>
I just put my new x1900xt in a couple hours ago and ran 3DMark05-06 ... As I loaded up Company of Heroes to play a bit, 5mins later I heard a LOUD POP!!! and all went black..... Then I noticed a lovely burning smell... Did I just lose my whole rig?? Thankfully, NO. Turns out my $24 PSU dont like that x1900xt. Off to newegg for a PCP&C Silencer 750; wife not withstanding.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Trust dragosmp and me, if your PSU aint up to par, this may happen to you:<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/proof.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Proof"><br>
I just put my new x1900xt in a couple hours ago and ran 3DMark05-06 ... As I loaded up Company of Heroes to play a bit, 5mins later I heard a LOUD POP!!! and all went black..... Then I noticed a lovely burning smell... Did I just lose my whole rig?? Thankfully, NO. Turns out my $24 PSU dont like that x1900xt. Off to newegg for a PCP&C Silencer 750; wife not withstanding.</div>
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Woops, I really hope it doesn't. Sorry for your loss, but it's all for the best, since I have a 3 year waranty <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> . If it does pop I'll add a few more pennys and get an Antec.<br>
As far as I have seen on the egg reviews these PSUs had a preety big death rate, but here in Europe they got reviews like "excellent/super PSU/silent" you get my point. Here the brand Hiper is a kind of a top brand (at least this is what I found) and my PSU was 50€ ~70$. I'm affraid we aren't talking of the same product.
 

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Well the first think i noticed was the cooler, that scythe ninja isnt that great, and its huige for not being very good. Go for an arctic freezer 64, big typhoon, or zalman 9500.<br><br>
The remark of the PSU by scorpion is something to think about... There ar soo many good psu's out there to choose from. I would take a look at the OCZ GameXtreme 600w. Its a great psu for the price. Since you will most likely be upgrading the videocard from that old 9800pro, youll need a good power source. New videocards can pull alot of amperage from the psu, which is probably why scorpoins just crpapped out when he was playing a GPU intesive game.<br><br>
Just all some food for thought.
 
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