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I recommend that you upgrade to a new socket.. the LGA775
for example,
get this Asus P5P board (which you can still use your GFX card, and then later upgrade to a presler dual core) and then get the intel 630.
Little overbuget, but will get you a good OC and some upgrade-ability.
 

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Ya the major difference is the 1mb of cache on the prescott and 512kb on the northwood like Tobuk said. Lemme tell you a little story too before you go and buy the fastest one you can.

I have a 3.2 prescott, and a little while back, I thought it would be a good idea to get a 3.4 prescott. Then I could give my 3.2 to my gf, and have the 3.4 for me. I was practically salivating to pop that 3.4 in and let it rip.

Well it kind of backfired. First off, this particular 3.4 runs hotter than my 3.2 at the same voltage. Also, with both processors, I can reach about 3.85-3.9 GHz with my xp-90c heatsink. So, I didn't get any more speed from the 3.4 which basically means, the 3.2 gave me the same speed PLUS the fsb was higher at that speed than the 3.4. So in a nutshell, the 3.4 was a downgrade
. I almost wonder if I had a 3.0, if I could still reach that same 3.85GHz, and have the fsb of course higher than on my 3.2, giving me better performance than I have now. The moral of the story is, depending on circumstances, the fastest processor isn't always the better one.

This of course would depend on the situation. Maybe if I had some ultra extreme cooling, then I could have ran the 3.4 higher and it may have been worth it. But with the cooling I have, the 3.2 is better cause I can have like 240fsb instead of 220.
 

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Originally Posted by RoscoeMcGurk

Ya the major difference is the 1mb of cache on the prescott and 512kb on the northwood like Tobuk said. Lemme tell you a little story too before you go and buy the fastest one you can.

I have a 3.2 prescott, and a little while back, I thought it would be a good idea to get a 3.4 prescott. Then I could give my 3.2 to my gf, and have the 3.4 for me. I was practically salivating to pop that 3.4 in and let it rip.

Well it kind of backfired. First off, this particular 3.4 runs hotter than my 3.2 at the same voltage. Also, with both processors, I can reach about 3.85-3.9 GHz with my xp-90c heatsink. So, I didn't get any more speed from the 3.4 which basically means, the 3.2 gave me the same speed PLUS the fsb was higher at that speed than the 3.4. So in a nutshell, the 3.4 was a downgrade
. I almost wonder if I had a 3.0, if I could still reach that same 3.85GHz, and have the fsb of course higher than on my 3.2, giving me better performance than I have now. The moral of the story is, depending on circumstances, the fastest processor isn't always the better one.

This of course would depend on the situation. Maybe if I had some ultra extreme cooling, then I could have ran the 3.4 higher and it may have been worth it. But with the cooling I have, the 3.2 is better cause I can have like 240fsb instead of 220.


Hi Roscoe Mcgurk,

I see you have a XP-90C on your P4. What temps are you seeing with the P4 3.2 when you overclock?? And what are your room temps, if you don't mind me asking?? I''m thinking of buying an XP-90 (Alum version because of weight) and wanted to know if it's worth it..

Sorrying Ptorgen for being off- topic.

Thanks in advance, :)
 

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well i wasnt really gonna do that i had seen that the 3.4's are noticabley higher than the 3.2 and im not payin 100 bucks for 200Mhz when i can oc that easily. i was more lookin at instruction set and stuff, and cache
 

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Hi Roscoe Mcgurk,

I see you have a XP-90C on your P4. What temps are you seeing with the P4 3.2 when you overclock?? And what are your room temps, if you don't mind me asking?? I''m thinking of buying an XP-90 (Alum version because of weight) and wanted to know if it's worth it..

Sorrying Ptorgen for being off- topic.

Thanks in advance, :)

@ptrogen, go for the prescott dude, they're better performers and they usually oc better too. No reason to get a northwood, unless this computer isn't going to do anything cpu intensive.

Hey 455buick,

I don't really monitor my room temp that much, but I'd guess about 70F is what it usually is, sometimes maybe a bit higher. I've noticed this xp90c is a really good heatsink. I used to have a Zalman 7700 copper, which is also a good heatsink, and the xp90c is noticeably better. I can tell you what temps I get, but there's so many things that go into what temps you get, so let me give you a little detail.

Room temp is about 70F most of the time. Also I'm using Arctic Silver5 grease, which I highly recommend. I'm overclocked from 3.2 to 3.85, with a vcore of 1.5V (vcore is MAJOR variable for temps). Case temp is also a major one, I have good airflow and case stays about 29-32C whether under load or not. I have a side fan, front case fan, top blowhole fan, and rear exhaust fans, so any heat is gotten out very quickly. Some of the case heat is due to my 6800GT card which puts out quite a bit.

Typically, I get about 28-29C case and about 37C cpu when idle. Under full 100% load, I get about 29-31C case and around 56-57C cpu. Another thing that affected my temps for the better (a few degrees) was that I lapped my heatsink and cpu, they're so flat NASA could use them to calibrate something lol. Another thing to consider, is that the xp90c, you have to chose a fan for it, so that will affect temps. The fan I have on it is about 50 something cfm, not the best around, so a stronger one I'd probably drop some temp. I could probably push my vcore more and get about 4GHz, but I like to keep my temp under 60C.

Now I don't know how much, but the aluminum one won't do as well as the copper one, copper transfers heat more efficiently. If I were you, I'd get the copper one man. As far as the weight, I wouldn't worry that much, the xp90c also comes with a new heatsink bracket which is metal and quite strong, it replaces the plastic one on your mobo. I suppose you could still possibly damage the mobo like if the whole bracket ripped off the mobo, but I really doubt it, not from just sitting there. I think the people who are having that kind of thing happen, are the people who moved their computers, and didn't give them a cushy ride (which for the hard drives sake, they should be anyway). It must have to get a really bumpy ride for it to actually break too, cause it seems quite strong to me. Seems like it would have to have a major jolt before breaking would even be possible. Also, there's heavier heatsinks out there that I'd worry about more, the xp90c isn't too heavy compared to some others.
 

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Hi RoscoeMcGurk,

Thanks for the reply and all of the feedback. Your temps are great in MHO! 16degC over room temps (37-21) with a big overclock to 3.85. With good air flow in the case I would guess your room temps to be more like 75 or so with a case temp of 28degC or 82degF. Then your temp diferrence is 13degC! Those are the kind of temps I'm looking for with the XP-90.
As for the alum vs copper debate. The difference between the XP-90C and the XP-90Alum is/was very small. The alum version was hotter by 1-2degC. Because I'm lazy and don't want to remove my motherboard, I purchased the XP-90Alum version. It was also cheaper by 45% ($27.00usd to $40.00usd).

Thanks for all of the good info, :)
 

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