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I am sorry if this isn't the right place for this question.<br />
But AMD CPUs is what comes closest since I want to buy an AMD system.<br />
What I thought about so far:<br />
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1. CPU: AM2. So far I heared it's possible to get an Athlon 64 3500+ with the best cooler I can get my hands on and overclock it to something around 4000+.<br />
2. Graphics Card: I don't know. I think I go with Nividia. Also new cooler here, and overclock.<br />
What about SLI? Can two cheaper cards have more performance than one expensive. (Same price.)<br />
3. RAM: DDR2-667. 1 GB. If prices fall 2 GB. These things cost more than MB & CPU.<br />
4. I only want it to run fast. I don't really need more than 30 GB.<br />
Is there any way to do that? SATA, PCI Express?<br />
(Will it make a difference in gaming performance how fast my HDD is?)<br />
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Thanks
 

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Budget?
 

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Yeah, we need to know a budget then we can help more.<br />
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Just my two cents. Trying to configure a rig now to be built now is futile, by that time, there will be quad cores out in the form of Intel's Kentsfield, DX10 Video Cards, and various other tech innovations that make it impossible to know what stuff will be like in 2 months even. Unless youa re talking about building like January 2nd, I think that you should wait and address this topic in 2 or so months.
 

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By the way, it's smarter and more efficient to get one powerful video card instead of two mediocre video cards. That will use less power, give better performance, and offer greater upgradeability options. Be on the lookout for the 8800GT, which is a directx 10 card, and should be cheap enough to afford within a year or so. Also, by then am2 will probably be gone and something new will be here (similar to what happened with s754 and s939). That's my take on it anyways, but for now what you could buy would be a PSU, harddrive, case and some ddr2 ram, because ddr2 ram is what everything new is running on at the moment. Be flexible on the video card, mobo and cpu selection though <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> Definitely look into crossfire, which is two ATI cards running together, opposed to two nvidia's.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Yeah, we need to know a budget then we can help more.<br />
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Just my two cents. Trying to configure a rig now to be built now is futile, by that time, there will be quad cores out in the form of Intel's Kentsfield, DX10 Video Cards, and various other tech innovations that make it impossible to know what stuff will be like in 2 months even.</div>

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</div>Budget will be 600€, around 800 $.<br />
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I actually only want hardware that is on the market right now.<br />
Buying it by the time it gets a bit less expensive.<br />
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It's not that easy to get my dream rig with that budget.<br />
By today the parts I want would cost:<br />
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Athlon 64 3500+ 120$<br />
AM2 MB (NForce5) 120$<br />
RAM 2GB 667 350$<br />
GPU 250$<br />
HDD 50$<br />
Cooler (For overclocking) 50$<br />
Makes an overall of over 900$. Thats way over the budget.<br />
Thats why I wait.<br />
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Now, any ideas for the setup.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Also, by then am2 will probably be gone and something new will be here (similar to what happened with s754 and s939). That's my take on it.</div>
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I had the impression AM2 is kind of the new socket A.<br>
Meaning it will stay for a while.<br>
Why would you think it will go away like 754 and 939?
 

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As far as HDD goes, I would say the msot cost effective and still low price would be a 160gb HDD, even though you might not think you will use the space it is nice to have the extra space.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">I am sorry if this isn't the right place for this question.<br />
But AMD CPUs is what comes closest since I want to buy an AMD system.<br />
What I thought about so far:<br />
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1. CPU: AM2. So far I heared it's possible to get an Athlon 64 3500+ with the best cooler I can get my hands on and overclock it to something around 4000+.<br />
2. Graphics Card: I don't know. I think I go with Nividia. Also new cooler here, and overclock.<br />
What about SLI? Can two cheaper cards have more performance than one expensive. (Same price.)<br />
3. RAM: DDR2-667. 1 GB. If prices fall 2 GB. These things cost more than MB & CPU.<br />
4. I only want it to run fast. I don't really need more than 30 GB.<br />
Is there any way to do that? SATA, PCI Express?<br />
(Will it make a difference in gaming performance how fast my HDD is?)<br />
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Thanks</div>

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</div>wait for dx 10 before u buy... u will either get a dx10 card or it will drop the price of dx9 cards a bunch!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">I had the impression AM2 is kind of the new socket A.<br />
Meaning it will stay for a while.<br />
Why would you think it will go away like 754 and 939?</div>

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</div>I've read the same thing, but "a while" for electronics is a lot quicker than a while for most other things. Quad core will be out before long, and I may upgrade then unless I "need to" update before then. For now, 939 is nearly neck and neck with an AM2 as of a couple of weeks ago. Someone did a comparison test <a href="http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63039" target="_blank">here.</a> And pricewise it is the better deal right now. But who knows next year. <br />
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I'd sit on it and keep updated (this is a great place to do that) and when your ready to buy you'll know what to get.
 

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I might even buy a s939 system.<br />
I really never going to notice those 2% performance difference to AM2,<br />
and everything is cheaper.<br />
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Edit: Hm... DDR RAM is sooo expensive.<br />
What is going on there?<br />
It costs more than DDR2?!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Edit: Hm... DDR RAM is sooo expensive.<br />
What is going on there?<br />
It costs more than DDR2?!</div>

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</div>DDR Ram is being phased out, DDR2 is the standard now.<br />
Get a-<br />
<a href="http://www.alternate.de/html/productDetails.html?artno=HHEA08" target="_blank">AM2 x2 3800</a><br />
<a href="http://www.alternate.de/html/productDetails.html?artno=GEEA02" target="_blank">Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe</a><br />
<a href="http://www.alternate.de/html/productDetails.html?artno=JAXLNS" target="_blank">Leadtek WinFast PX7900GS</a><br />
<a href="http://www.alternate.de/html/productDetails.html?artno=IAIENH" target="_blank">1GB of ram</a>(Get some more when you have more money)<br />
€616<br />
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You'll most probably have to look @ getting a cooler as the CPU is OEM.<br />
Take a look in the <a href="http://www.overclock.net/amd-air-cooling/" target="_blank">AMD Air Forum</a><br />
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bit over budget but I only know that german store.
 
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