[Pyro_Teknic]

hey all. had the sig rig for almost a year and im starting to mod. started the work on stealthing my optical drive and will probly finish it next weekend. (need glue and couple dremel bits) was also think of sleeving my power supply. this is where ocn comes in. im clueless as what sleeving/heatshrink to buy let alone how much i need. id need enough for the 24pin, 8 pin cpu/atx, 2 pci-e 6 pins, 5 fans, ~6" for the sata power for the optical and some extra for error room as ive never sleeved a psu before. ive read a few sleeving guides and practiced removing the pins on the extra 4 pin atx

id like some high density weave and im torn between all black or maybe black with touches of blue to match the mb. undecided until i see some colors. also if i do choose to go blue id paint the gpu accent from red to blue. budget is ~$50, the less the better but i am flexible. dont need the highest quality stuff, main qualities im looking for is density of the weave and durable.(wont separate/unravel moving thru the grommets of the case)

also just a little concerned that if i dont put the pin back in right is there any chance of damaging any components?

shot of case in case you can see anything i didnt/suggestions. sorry about the quality, only camera i have is in my iphone

 

[SmasherBasher]

You need paracord or clean cut.

You'll also need some heatshrink and an extraction tool. Pins and crimpers are helpful too, since you'll undoubtedly break a pin or 2.

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

paracord looks good and a nice color selection. 50ft enough if i choose to go full black?

 

[X-Nine]

Go with the furryletters stuff instead of paracord. Much easier to work with, doesn't snag on pins...

You pretty much have to put pins back correctly otherwise they won't fit. Can't put a square peg into a round hole...

50 feet will NOT be enough for everything in the case. You'll probably need double that. If you order through FurryLetters directly instead of using ebay (and mention you're from OCN) the sleeve will be cheaper. I think I ordered 200 feet for 35 bucks or something like that...

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

thanks for the advice. i was looking at paracord and if i do buy it i was planning on making life easy by killing a roll of scotch tape and just taping the pin to one of the strings inside and pulling it thru. does furryletters have a color like the colonial blue from paracord?
as for length im not sleeving the whole thing just whats mentioned in op

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

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Originally Posted by SmasherBasher You need paracord or clean cut. You'll also need some heatshrink and an extraction tool. Pins and crimpers are helpful too, since you'll undoubtedly break a pin or 2.

paracord looks good. was messing around with my 4 pin tester cable and found that a seem ripper works fine as a tool. doesnt have 2 ends, just takes a little longer and a lot easier on the fingers than staples. any links to heatshrink? found http://www.mcmaster.com/#heat-shrink-tubing/=bqhc40 i like the idea of adhesive on the inside. wont go crawling away after a while. any good? just dont know what size/how much i need

id rep for the links if i could rep u

 

[X-Nine]

I believe furryletters also sells heatshrink, and they do have a blue color (not sure which hue).

I did a review on Venomous Cable sleeve a few weeks ago. There's a lot of info in that review, and even if you don't buy Venomous, a lot of the info is valid for other sleeve and heatshrink as well.

See here: http://www.overclock.net/other-hardw...ve-no-56k.html

 

[Philistine]

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Originally Posted by Pyro_Teknic any links to heatshrink? found http://www.mcmaster.com/#heat-shrink-tubing/=bqhc40 i like the idea of adhesive on the inside. wont go crawling away after a while. any good? just dont know what size/how much i need

That's what I'm using (3/16" diameter 3:1). The adhesive works well and you can pull it off, with a little effort, if you mess up. I bought 8 feet but I'm thinking I should have bought 12. We'll see.

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

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Originally Posted by XNine I believe furryletters also sells heatshrink, and they do have a blue color (not sure which hue). I did a review on Venomous Cable sleeve a few weeks ago. There's a lot of info in that review, and even if you don't buy Venomous, a lot of the info is valid for other sleeve and heatshrink as well. See here: http://www.overclock.net/other-hardw...ve-no-56k.html

nice guide! lots of info and it looks like awesome sleeve only thing stoping me is shipping from australia to us is half the rough budget. as for heatshrink color its probably to much of a hassle to find color matching heatshrink. if i can great, if not no biggie

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Originally Posted by Philistine That's what I'm using (3/16" diameter 3:1). The adhesive works well and you can pull it off, with a little effort, if you mess up. I bought 8 feet but I'm thinking I should have bought 12. We'll see.

most likely the shrink ill get, unless there's adhesive shrink elsewhere for cheaper. site has it at $22 for 12' + shipping (if applicable)
like the weave idea. its got me sold on black with hints of blue. im assuming the wires are shielded and wont create any ripple or anything wierd in the psu that could fry something?
going to sleep on it but right now its looking like paracord - 100' black, 50' colonial/royal blue. any opinions on which to match? mobo socket color (ram/pcie) or heatsink (nb/mosfet cooler covers)? plus a paint to match for the gpu accent would be nice to

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

so im going with black and royal blue for colors. i could get the cleancut as it does look easier to work with. or possibly clean cut for both if they have royal blue. paracord may be harder to work with but so far it wins on density and price per foot. from what ive gathered ill need 100' of black, 50' of royal blue and 12' of heatshrink. (if clean cut has royal blue ill get 75' just to play safe/in case i want to add more blue. current plan is 1-3 blue and 3-5 black for the 6 pins)

only thing im curious of is do i really need 12' of heatshrink to sleeve whats mentioned in op? not that $7 is much of an issue it just that could be put to shipping and handling. quick replys would be appreciated as i would like to order above mentioned by tonight so hopefully i can get started this weekend. also +rep for a suggestions/links to paint to match the gpu accent to the nb heatsink color. dont need to order that immediatley but would be very nice to have on hand

 

[Bear907]

12ft may be a bit much, but it all depends on how much of a perfectionist you are. If you are new to sleeving, then expect to struggle with the shrink in the begining and cut a lot of it off. Same goes if you want the uniform look of all the sleeves lining up at the connector.

Your best bet is to test sleeve a few wires over and over a few times until you get a feel for how much shrink to use for the look you want. Then precut your shrink. I find that makes it easier to get more uniform look across the connectors.

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

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Originally Posted by Bear907;13015435
12ft may be a bit much, but it all depends on how much of a perfectionist you are. If you are new to sleeving, then expect to struggle with the shrink in the begining and cut a lot of it off. Same goes if you want the uniform look of all the sleeves lining up at the connector.

Your best bet is to test sleeve a few wires over and over a few times until you get a feel for how much shrink to use for the look you want. Then precut your shrink. I find that makes it easier to get more uniform look across the connectors.

ok ill stick with 12' since its sold in 4' lengths. was hoping to bundle to keep shipping costs down but the clean cut just looks easier to work with. gonna wait till 10 or so tonight to order incase anyone else has any suggestions. right now it says that furryletters is away and delays in processing/shipping are likey. this true? if so +rep for another link to the same black cleancut off furryletters. getting 50' royal blue paracord and 12' of the heatshrink i found earlier

thanks for the tip of the practice cable. definetley going to precut the heatshrink and do my best to make them all uniform. im not gonna put a non uniformed cable in an 800d

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

bumpage totally got distracted cuz i got talking to my mom and dad. they said their contract with dish is up next month and gave me green light + funds to build a min pvr and netflix/hulu box!

enough about that here. will be reaserching/posting in the right places for that.

anyways will order sleeve and shrink in the morning. bumping for links to royal blue clean cut if it exists. if not i might get black clean cut and royal blue paracord or just all paracord if shipping is an issue (plus itd be nice to just get 2 packages instead of 3)

 

[Philistine]

Go paracord all the way. Its cheap and looks great. Mixing sleeving may not look very good.

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

ya thats what i was afraid of and why i was lookin for royal blue clean cut. but if they dont no biggie. im fine with taking a little longer to make it look good. i have 2 6+2 pins for my gpu that i was going to use while i sleeved the 6 pins

edit: any tips on sleeving with paracord? was planning on killing a roll of scotch tape and taping the pin to one of the inner cords and pulling it thru. also should i melt the end after i cut to prevent fraying before its under heatshrink? just thought of that and that it might maybe make an odd bulge in the sleeve if it melts weird

 

[Philistine]

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Originally Posted by Pyro_Teknic;13019732
edit: any tips on sleeving with paracord? was planning on killing a roll of scotch tape and taping the pin to one of the inner cords and pulling it thru. also should i melt the end after i cut to prevent fraying before its under heatshrink? just thought of that and that it might maybe make an odd bulge in the sleeve if it melts weird

I've just been taping the pin and doing the push and pull method.

With paracord its a bit slower than other types of sleeving but it works well.

I do melt the ends after pulling out the core fibers. I lightly pull on the sleeve and very briefly pass a lighter over the frays. If you pull it too tight it will be difficult to get the cord over the pin and if you melt it too much it will bulge a bit under the heat shrink.

Its very fiddely stuff but I find sleeving with paracord relaxing. Its something to focus on and forget about worldly distractions.

 

[Kick]

fyi, paracord never ever snagged on me...and i've only used it on one occasion- im newb to paracord and yet it didnt snag on me.

just put painter's tape or anything on the pins and push them through the cord...not that hard to do, plus, youd probably do the same with clean cut sleeving.

one thing though- is that it's diameter, the 550 cord, is smaller than the clean cut and also way less expandable, so sleeving cords like the molex chain would be hard/impossible without taking it apart

and imo, i got royal blue, but wished i got electric blue instead. it seems to look so much better

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

paracord it is then. i was talking about taping the pin to one of the core fibers and pulling the wire thru while pulling core fibers out. kill 2 birds with one stone mentality but ill try it both ways.

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Its very fiddely stuff but I find sleeving with paracord relaxing. Its something to focus on and forget about worldly distractions.

+rep for great wisdom and sleeving prowess

ya thats a big reason why i want to sleeve. unfortunatley next week at work is going to suck having to pick up ~7500 shirts, ship ~2500 for personal orders and deliver the rest. lol im hating on the day with out hate

 

[Kick]

I would take out the core fibers first...or maybe take all but 1 out ( if youre doing 1 wire in each sleeve )

then do the push pull method.

 

[Pyro_Teknic]

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Originally Posted by Kick fyi, paracord never ever snagged on me...and i've only used it on one occasion- im newb to paracord and yet it didnt snag on me. just put painter's tape or anything on the pins and push them through the cord...not that hard to do, plus, youd probably do the same with clean cut sleeving. one thing though- is that it's diameter, the 550 cord, is smaller than the clean cut and also way less expandable, so sleeving cords like the molex chain would be hard/impossible without taking it apart and imo, i got royal blue, but wished i got electric blue instead. it seems to look so much better

the verdict is in! ordering 50' royal blue and 100' paracord in the morning + 12' of the shrink i found on McMaster-Carr. so glad i got the fully modular psu and the only molex cord im using is completly hidden thanks to the awesome 800d. but it looks like i should have a decent bit leftover as im not planning to sleeve much. who know i could get the full case mod itch and just do it XD

much love and rep to all!! if u posted here and i didnt +rep you feel free to smack me

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