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since the prices went down<br><br>
i have a budget of 400$<br>
and would like a gaming pc (not a monnster but a nice)<br>
any part suggestions<br>
i might not buy now and wait a littlw till its even cheaper<br>
and i dont need any cooling it will be watercooled<br><br>
i moght even wait till the am2 socket gets cheaper
 

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You mean... you have a Pentium D 945 and want to 'upgrade' that with only $400??<br />
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you won't get any better performance by upgrading the CPU/MoBo of that sig rig.<br />
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For $400, I would look into a new GPU, and add some RAM. That would be about it.
 

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Does this need to be moved to the Intel section?
 

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Let's see what he wants... maybe he wants a second rig?? Not sure yet <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" />
 

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Good point Chozart <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
BTW dani, what parts do you need? <br />
MB, CPU, RAM, etc... the more we know the more we can do <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
 

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yeah i want a secomnd rig<br><br>
i have a case , cooling ,and a psu and monitor.<br>
i need all the other parts
 

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There are some great deals in the For Sale section! Also check in the "Online Deals too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br>
Snerp has a great MB and CPU for under $200!
 

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It's tough to keep it under $400.<br><br>
This is my recommendation, based on a good price/performance balance. Of course, it's not a top-end rig.<br><ul><li>MoBo: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131530" target="_blank">A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX</a> $77.99</li>
<li>CPU: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103600" target="_blank">AMD Opteron 144 Venus 1000MHz HT Socket 939</a> $79.99</li>
<li>RAM: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820609049" target="_blank">SUPER TALENT 1GB DDR 400 (PC 3200)</a> $101.99</li>
<li>Video: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814102019" target="_blank">SAPPHIRE 100156L Radeon X1600PRO 256MB GDDR3</a> $92.99</li>
<li>HDD: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822135106" target="_blank">Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s</a> $43.99</li>
<li>DVD: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827106014" target="_blank">LITE-ON 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE</a> $27.99</li>
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Total: $424.94 + $13.74 shipping = $438.68<br><br>
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<ul><li>A possible saving is on the CPU: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537" target="_blank">AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1.8GHz</a> $64.99, but that will cost you some performance, and esp. overclockability.</li>
<li>Not sure if you have an optical drive laying around... if so, we're right around $400 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"></li>
<li>I choose a single stick of RAM, so it's easy to add a second one when you want 2GB</li>
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i dont need an optical drive<br>
i also have ram laying around<br>
i would like to find an sli mobo and card for future upgrade
 

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Ok then:<br />
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MoBo: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813136157" target="_blank">BIOSTAR TForce4SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI</a> $104.99 <br />
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Video: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130056" target="_blank">eVGA 256-P2-N624-AR GeForce 7900GS 256MB GDDR3</a> $185.99 <br />
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CPU: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103600" target="_blank">AMD Opteron 144 Venus 1000MHz HT Socket 939</a> $79.50 <br />
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HDD: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822135106" target="_blank">Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s</a> $43.99 <br />
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Subtotal: $414.47 <br />
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went for a substantial upgrade on the video card....
 

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FYI theres an Opty 146 for 75 shipped in the for sale section that you could replace the 144 with. I'm new to the scene with Intel so i'm not sure if it'll be a performance gain. <a href="http://www.overclock.net/sale/128636-sale-amd-opteron-146-socket-939-a.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/sale/128636...ket-939-a.html</a>
 

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Good call on the Opty VRWM! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
 

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actually my budget is 500 now<br />
how about this am2 build<br />
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GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard $82.99 <br />
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GIGABYTE GV-NX73T256P-RH GeForce 7300GT 256MB GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $78.99 <br />
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AMD Opteron 1210 Santa Ana 1.8GHz Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor Model OSA1210CSBOX $169.99 <br />
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pqi 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) System Memory Model MAC41GUOE - <br />
$94.99 <br />
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Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive -<br />
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$491.95 total
 

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That's a severe downgrade.. I mean, a 7300??<br />
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I would not get dual core for that budget....
 

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but then ill be able to get another 7300 in sli<br>
but i need good processing because it will serve as a server too<br>
and i want am2 scket for feature upgrades
 

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what kind of server? Really the kind that needs processing power?<br><br>
I would try to get at least a better video card. Even in SLI, the 7300 ain't that much of a card.<br><br><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130062" target="_blank">eVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail</a> $129.99 - $20 MIR.<br><br>
It's $50 more (before MIR) but worth it.
 

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The opteron 1210 is a socket F if i'm not mistaken (which I often am <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">). That won't work with AM2. Go for the 146. And overclock it all night long....
 

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The 12xx series are AM2... so just fine for his rig... and a good pick <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
The 22xx and 82xx series are the Socket F (1207) versions....
 

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DO they overclock?
 

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That's yet to be seen.... but given the results with the socket 939 Opty's, I yet have no reason to see why not.
 
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