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Hi Everyone,

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My name is Bob and I reside in Bremerton Washington. I am a retired guy down on my kness right now looking for some help. I filled out my system specs as best I could, and I am sure it is not as complete as needed. I am here because I need to overclock my system. I bought this processor because of a recommendation from many who said that was a great processor and fairly easy to overclock, and they do run cooler that others because of the new manufacturing process. After spending a week on another forum with a guy, going back and forth with settings and results he just dropped of the radar. I dont know if he ran out of ideas or what. I may be a little on the elderly side some might say, but I do have some very solid computer skills and by no means do I need hand holding when in comes to doing what is asked of me. I have been using a computer for 15 years and have accomplished alot, so I just did not want to give someone the impression I need hand holding to be able make changes to the bios and other areas and report back my findings. The last thing I need right now is to scare off any talent, by giving them the impression that they may have to move in with me to help me do this overclock.

One guy asked why do I need to overclock as this processor-system as it is fast enough for any game? Well, most games yes, I would agree that stock is just fine. The truth is that this simulator is the most CPU intensive simulator/game on the market today. Without alot of detail as to why it is, I can only say that it is processing an incredible amount of information to do what it needs to do. I have had this system for a year, but within this year, there have been addons to the product that need all the processing power that can be mustered, in order to maintain the smoothness required to simulate flight.

So flying the simulator is a passion for me and I try to get in as much flight time as possible without pushing the envelope on neglecting my wonderful wife. I saved for quite awhile to be able to buy this system and although I have learned quite a bit about computers for an old fart, overclocking aside from setting the AI overclock in the bios is about as much as am willing to do. It is not that I do not want to learn, my wife state very nicely, you know, if you break it, you better find something else to do. So, with that statement, I really need to lean on someone.

Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to let you all know a little about me and why I am here. It means the world to me to be able to get this done. If there is anyone who is interested please let me know.

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Bob G
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Hi Bob.

So basically you need help using the AI overclocking feature with your motherboard?
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Hey Bob,

Welcome to OCN !

First of all, let me congratulate you on the absolutely great attitude!. I guess you are about the same age as my father, who has also learned his way through this computerized new world.

I am very very far away from the Washington State, so the best I can offer is for us to go over your overclocking remotely, using OCN as the media.

One thing I have to tell you is that it can be very time consuming. Making an overclock work and stay 100% stable means a lot of hours of testing. Pushing the speed up is easy and fast, but making it stable without risking to fry your hardware is another thing.

In my opinion (IMO), you want it stable because you don't need blue screens in the middle of a flight


Let me know if you want us to start, so I can prepare a first to-do list...
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By the way, which simulator do you have?
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Did you read through you MOBO manual yet. This is the first step to getting acquainted with your hardware. Most of the BIOS options are explained rather well in the new manuals and you will need this info.
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Hi Bob.

So basically you need help using the AI overclocking feature with your motherboard?

Hi There!
Wow, I got four replies already. What a great place. Actually No. I can do the AI but only to 15%. Even 20% if it was stable would not be enough. I have been told by other Flight Simmers that 4.0 to 4.2 is the sweet spot for the simulator. Also, not really sure which forum I really need to be in.

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My first thoughts for an easy overclock for you, since you have a QX9650, would be to simply raise the CPU multiplier in the bios. I would not use the AI overclocker but simply raise your processor multi until unstable, then raise your vCore a notch or two to see if that stabilizes it, and go back and forth until you are at a comfortable overclock with decent temps and acceptable voltages.
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Hey Bob,

Welcome to OCN !

First of all, let me congratulate you on the absolutely great attitude!. I guess you are about the same age as my father, who has also learned his way through this computerized new world.

I am very very far away from the Washington State, so the best I can offer is for us to go over your overclocking remotely, using OCN as the media.

One thing I have to tell you is that it can be very time consuming. Making an overclock work and stay 100% stable means a lot of hours of testing. Pushing the speed up is easy and fast, but making it stable without risking to fry your hardware is another thing.

In my opinion (IMO), you want it stable because you don't need blue screens in the middle of a flight


Let me know if you want us to start, so I can prepare a first to-do list...
Hi, Thanks so much for replying. What is your name first of all. I feel funny replying without knowing your name.

Oh yes, I understand about time consuming. I have all the time in the world trust me. The last thing I need is a quick fix. You are absolutely right about a BSOD or something right during touchdown! I am absolutely ready for a To Do List! Wow, I wish I would have found you guys first.

I dont know what OCN is. Do I need to install some software? What part of Mexico are you in?

Thanks Again for your reply, I am really excited.

Kind Regards
Bob
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Hey Bob,

Welcome to OCN !

First of all, let me congratulate you on the absolutely great attitude!. I guess you are about the same age as my father, who has also learned his way through this computerized new world.

I am very very far away from the Washington State, so the best I can offer is for us to go over your overclocking remotely, using OCN as the media.

One thing I have to tell you is that it can be very time consuming. Making an overclock work and stay 100% stable means a lot of hours of testing. Pushing the speed up is easy and fast, but making it stable without risking to fry your hardware is another thing.

In my opinion (IMO), you want it stable because you don't need blue screens in the middle of a flight


Let me know if you want us to start, so I can prepare a first to-do list...

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By the way, which simulator do you have?
Sorry, I should have included in your other Post. I fly MS Flights Simulator (FSX)

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My first thoughts for an easy overclock for you, since you have a QX9650, would be to simply raise the CPU multiplier in the bios. I would not use the AI overclocker but simply raise your processor multi until unstable, then raise your vCore a notch or two to see if that stabilizes it, and go back and forth until you are at a comfortable overclock with decent temps and acceptable voltages.
Hi,

Well this is where I get in trouble. I just dont know enough. There are so many things. Votages, Memory timings etc. I just dont know the series of steps to take when something is not working right. I do know that a 1:1 Ratio is the best but I truly have no idea how to get there. One guy is going to send me a to do list as a starting point.

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This may help a little but doesn't realy go into the specifics of your board, I tried looking for a Striker II thread here but there doesn't seem to be one


http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ing-guide.html

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There is also a 780i overclocking guide .PDF fron nvidia in this thread which you can download for a read.
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Did you read through you MOBO manual yet. This is the first step to getting acquainted with your hardware. Most of the BIOS options are explained rather well in the new manuals and you will need this info.
Yes Sir, I did. I am familiar with the BIOS and the basic functions and what they do. My lack of experience is a danger to not only my hardware but to my general well being a aprreciation of life


So, basically I am not qualified to do this. There is a guy who wants to help me as he is willing to hold my hand. I am sure I will come out of this with not only a appreciation of the talent necessary to do this, but also an appreciation for the willingness to help. thanks so much for chiming in here, I am really overwhelmed already with the amount of responses.

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Once you get the hang of it you will be surprised by how easy it really is. It is just basic electronics. Increase speed until unstable then add power. It is however time consuming to get it right and that will probably seem boring until you get to use it.
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This may help a little but doesn't realy go into the specifics of your board, I tried looking for a Striker II thread here but there doesn't seem to be one


http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ing-guide.html

EDIT:

There is also a 780i overclocking guide .PDF fron nvidia in this thread which you can download for a read.
Yes, I too have found that this MB is not the most popular. I have always used ASUS boards and this one came as a recommendation. The bios updates have helped a little as well as chipset drivers. The first Bios I could not even AI overclock 10%, now with the newer Bios upgrades, I can go to 15%. So, there is improvement. Many are unhappy with the board but there are just as many who are happy with it. I really dont know.

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Originally Posted by GeforceGTS View Post
This may help a little but doesn't realy go into the specifics of your board, I tried looking for a Striker II thread here but there doesn't seem to be one


http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ing-guide.html

EDIT:

There is also a 780i overclocking guide .PDF fron nvidia in this thread which you can download for a read.
Hi, sorry I just saw your edit. Yes I will download. Thank you very much. I always read, but many times I scratch my head, but I never give up unless I fall asleep
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Once you get the hang of it you will be surprised by how easy it really is. It is just basic electronics. Increase speed until unstable then add power. It is however time consuming to get it right and that will probably seem boring until you get to use it.
Oh boy if it was just that easy for me. Geez, but add power where? I see so many places where voltages can be upped etc, but without knowing how each of those relate to each other, I lose my confidense right away. Maybe one day I will understand. Probably when the new 100 core processors become available


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hi bob nice to see an older person on here if you dont mind me saying!

what GHz did you get upto with the AI overclock at the highest!

i also use Asus and have never looked back!

have some Rep+ for being so nice!
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Hi, Thanks so much for replying. What is your name first of all. I feel funny replying without knowing your name.

Oh yes, I understand about time consuming. I have all the time in the world trust me. The last thing I need is a quick fix. You are absolutely right about a BSOD or something right during touchdown! I am absolutely ready for a To Do List! Wow, I wish I would have found you guys first.

I dont know what OCN is. Do I need to install some software? What part of Mexico are you in?

Thanks Again for your reply, I am really excited.

Kind Regards
Bob
My name is Mauricio and I am from Mexico City. been here?
OCN means Overclock.net. You will find there's a hole new language inhere. Take a look at this thread.

I will prepare a to-do list this afternoon so we can start working on your overclock. For the moment, I suggest you start by reading some of the 101 material available here at OCN:

- Intel-overclocking-redefined-guide-successful-overclocking

Happy overclocking !
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hi bob nice to see an older person on here if you dont mind me saying!

what GHz did you get upto with the AI overclock at the highest!

i also use Asus and have never looked back!

have some Rep+ for being so nice!
Hi,

20%, but I know I did not test strong enough. I ran a program called Prime95 for about 8 hours. When I went into the simulator, it would run for about 30-40 minutes and then would freeze. Not a BSOD or reboot, it just froze and then you get the error message with the attached dump.

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My name is Mauricio and I am from Mexico City. been here?
OCN means Overclock.net. You will find there's a hole new language inhere. Take a look at this thread.

I will prepare a to-do list this afternoon so we can start working on your overclock. For the moment, I suggest you start by reading some of the 101 material available here at OCN:

- Intel-overclocking-redefined-guide-successful-overclocking

Happy overclocking !
Hi Mauricio,

No, never been to there but would love to see it. I have been to Tijuana when I was little, but I dont remember much. Your English writing Mauricio is very good, where did you learn?

Ok, so when you say OCN, do you mean we will communicate on the forum right here, or does OCN have a chat area or something? Ok I will download the materials you suggested. Have you looked at my system specs? I do not have a good case. I found this out when running the simulator, before I even knew about monitoring utilites. This case was designed for the person that does not like to hear fan noise. I just did not know when I bought it. I now have the side case open and I blow a fan in there. I know this is not right but until I get a good recommendation on a case, it will have to suffice. I mentioned in my specs that I do have a CPU cooler but I dont have the name. Would you like me to send you a picture of it? I is really large. Off the mounts it has two large fins with a fan in the middle. It looks copper but it may be plated or something. I just cant remember the name of it.

What times are you usually available? I am on Pacific Standard Time.
Thanks again for your help Mauricio, I am very grateful for your time.

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Bob
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