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Considering you can get almost 8TB for that price its not a good deal. No point on Black any more.
 

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What's your point?

This is all about fitting the most space into one drive. Not everyone has room for four 2TB drives or eight 1TB drives.
Considering you can get 3TB for ~ $100-120 its horrible value. Its like 180GB SSD for $200 and a 240GB SSD for $450.
 

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Well yeah this drive might not be as popular as 2TB or 3TB drives, but at least the option is there for people who want a 4TB drive.

It's not like WD is ceasing production of every other HDD but this one, they're not forcing anyone to buy it.
The point of this thread was to be a Deal which its not.
 

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The point of this thread was to be a Deal which its not.
The deal is on WD-black 4TB. Don't compare to some other cheaper drives. You are comparing this to the seagate barracuda rubbish which has horrible reviews and a 2 year warranty (some people want the good stuff and this is a good deal for a higher-quality product). These have 5 year warranties and are basically the retail badged version of an enterprise product. This *is* a deal for this particular product (have you seen it cheaper somewhere else?). Your comment about SSD also makes little sense. Would you compare an 840 Pro to the absolute cheapest/slowest drive and say its bad value? I don't follow your logic.
 

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You can get 2 TB WD red drives for $112, and 3TB for $160. Same warranty, still performs well for mass storage. The blacks may be a little better, but most people use mass storage for media and things that don't need to be as fast as possible. If you actually need fast storage for a server or something, this is a good deal, about $30 less than Amazon. If not, the extra price is a hard sell.
 

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I'm not even clear on what the use case is for these. Who needs really fast mass storage? Perhaps in an enterprise setting that makes sense, but those users are much more likely to reach for SAS drives anyways. It seems that these days almost everyone is getting massive drives for storing stuff like movies and music, and I don't think you'd notice a difference between a Black and a Green for that. I agree with what's been said, I think the reds are much better value with the same warranty and they're actually intended for 24/7 operation, like a NAS.
 

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This is a good deal for this drive. Every other drive in this capacity is slower, less reliable, and doesn't RAID that well (except for Hitachis
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No, it is not useful for storage. It is useful for high-end budget servers and RAIDs, which is why I'm in, thanks!
 

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This is a good deal for this drive. Every other drive in this capacity is slower, less reliable, and doesn't RAID that well (except for Hitachis
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No, it is not useful for storage. It is useful for high-end budget servers and RAIDs, which is why I'm in, thanks!
not meant for raid
 

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not meant for raid
Maybe so, but if you have a 2-bay NAS (e.g. Synology DS212), then putting 4TB drives is nice. Whether it uses RAID, SHR or JBOD, its nice to be able to get 4TB out of a single slot, for what is effectively cheaper per TB right now than any other size WD-Black. Why all the hate for the WD-black?
 

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You can get 2 TB WD red drives for $112, and 3TB for $160. Same warranty, still performs well for mass storage. The blacks may be a little better, but most people use mass storage for media and things that don't need to be as fast as possible. If you actually need fast storage for a server or something, this is a good deal, about $30 less than Amazon. If not, the extra price is a hard sell.
Minor corrections to many posts:

1) I've seen 2TB Reds for $99 and 3TB's for $139.99/144.99.
2) Reds have 3 year warranties, last I checked.
3) The highest capacity drives always fetch a premium. Last time I checked Seagate and Hitachi 4TB drives were still over the $200 mark on sale. An extra 3 years of warranty for $80? Possibly worth it.
4) NCIX frequently has these for $279.99
5) Newegg recently had 1TB Blacks for $79.99
6) If you add in the price per bay of a prefab NAS and have a high capacity requirement (~12TB usable, for example), these drives can actually make sense.
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6-Bay NAS - $800
6x 3TB Seagates - $140 ea
12TB usable in RAID-6 for $1640 (2yr warranty)

4-Bay NAS - $550
4x 4TB WD Blacks - $290 ea
12TB usable in RAID-5 for $1710 (5yr warranty)
 

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The drive itself is priced well, 4TB drives are expensive. Personally I would much rather have 1 4TB driver rather than 2 2TB's.

-Aside from velociraptor, WD Black drives are the best of the best platter HD's period. The ones on sale for 100$ are 5400RPM or seagate, both of which suck.
-4TB drives are expensive relative to 5400rpm drives and/or seagate.
-All WD black drives sell for a premium because they are high performance drives.

If you don't want to buy it, don't and leave it at that. IMO stop threadcrapping. The price is still a deal because this drive sells for a premium, as do all black drives; the point is, you people need to stop thread crapping in sale threads.
 

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Why all of this e-peen wagging about finding more storage for less money?

People, I promise you, if there wasn't a legitimate and effective use for a 4tb WD black, WD would not make them. If someone chooses to buy this over your preference for storage, try to remember that they're not cutting the check from your bank account.

The only thing that matters is if this drive is on sale, and currently cheaper than it typically is. That's it. A sale is a sale, if this product isn't for you, move along.
 

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I am very much in lust with this drive. I have 2 2TB Blacks that have been serving me well since before the flood. They have had a lot of miles put on them and I am needing more space. It is good to see the price of these coming down. If I were not in the middle of another build I could definitely use one of these; and the price is not as offensive as its list price. I will sadly have to wait until summer to be able to pick one of these up.
 

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I am very much in lust with this drive. I have 2 2TB Blacks that have been serving me well since before the flood. They have had a lot of miles put on them and I am needing more space. It is good to see the price of these coming down. If I were not in the middle of another build I could definitely use one of these; and the price is not as offensive as its list price. I will sadly have to wait until summer to be able to pick one of these up.
I'm sure they will get cheaper by the summer. I picked only one up for my 2-bay NAS (Synology 212j). I'll pick a second one up on the next sale allowing me to have 8TB of storage with just 2 drives. I'm definitely stuck on the WD Blacks. I've been using them exclusively for years now (usually picking them up on sales, like the 3 1TBs in my sig rig which picked up for $80 each during black friday).
 
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