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Hello all.
I am a complete noob when it comes to building computers and would like some advice on how to fill in the gaps for my planned system.
Here is what I have so far:

CPU= Phenom II 940 Black edition

Motherboard = Ga-ma790x-ud4

Graphics = Saphire 4850 x2 2gb

Ram =

Case=

PSU=

I have no idea what kind of power supply or RAM i require for this build. I was considering the Thermaltake Soprano Case because looks are not that important to my build.

I only really play BF2 and Flight Sim X at the moment but I want to future proof the computer and have great graphics.

Also, How hard is it for a noob to buy all these components and install it? Fairly simple I assume?

Any advice would be appreciated.

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First of all what's your budget and where do you live?
If you have never built a pc before, I would suggest looking at a fe guides/videos on the Internet. It is really easy to do though. Are you sure you want an AMD build? At the moment intel is dominating just about every niche. In terms of a power supply, don't get a cheapo one or one that comes with a case - I have seen so many systems destroyed by shoddy psus.
Australia.
Not too sure what I'm looking to spend on the case,ram,psu.. I guess these can all be upgraded fairly easily in the future i'd just rather not nuke my computer through stupidity and using the wrong psu.. As for ram.. all those numbers are just confusing.
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Hello all.
I am a complete noob when it comes to building computers and would like some advice on how to fill in the gaps for my planned system.
Here is what I have so far:

CPU= Phenom II 940 Black edition

Motherboard = Ga-ma790x-ud4

Graphics = Saphire 4850 x2 2gb

Ram =

Case=

PSU=

I have no idea what kind of power supply or RAM i require for this build. I was considering the Thermaltake Soprano Case because looks are not that important to my build.

I only really play BF2 and Flight Sim X at the moment but I want to future proof the computer and have great graphics.

Also, How hard is it for a noob to buy all these components and install it? Fairly simple I assume?

Any advice would be appreciated.


Hope your getting the combo deal. SAves you 50$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.165047

For RAM suggest a DDR2 2x2gb 800 set atleast. Some quality ones can be had for cheap(!) now. Lots of people having good experiences with G Skill lately. Mushkin corsair and crucial are good brands FWIH.

Case is really up to what you want to spend. For somewhat cheap i suggest a CM590 or Antec300 great enthusiast boards on a budget. Air cooling on both is great.

OC that quad and get a nice 1283 xigmatek (120mm) cooler.

Antec, corsair, PC power and cooling are great PSU brands. As far as rated wattage is concerned someone else is going to have to help on that. I would guess 650 or better to be safe on your rig...
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Also, How hard is it for a noob to buy all these components and install it? Fairly simple I assume?


Easy. My sig rig is my first non prebuilt comp. Went together quite simply.
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If you have never built a pc before, I would suggest looking at a fe guides/videos on the Internet. It is really easy to do though. Are you sure you want an AMD build? At the moment intel is dominating just about every niche. In terms of a power supply, don't get a cheapo one or one that comes with a case - I have seen so many systems destroyed by shoddy psus.
I suppose the main motivation here is price. Is it really worth the extra money to use the intel quad 9650? I was told that the difference between the phenom and the intel is something that I would not notice on my system.
However, if you want to suggest other combinations then I suppose that is what Im asking.
Thanks
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Are you sure you want an AMD build? At the moment intel is dominating just about every niche.
Not since the PHII's, i would not say that intel is "dominating." And no im not a fanboy.

When money is concerned AMD is better Price/$ now.

Intel can potentially get you more performance if you want to spend the extra money. But (IE) 720BE is at the same price point as 8500/8600 and performs as good or better in most cases. Plus you can make it a quad core
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I suppose the main motivation here is price. Is it really worth the extra money to use the intel quad 9650? I was told that the difference between the phenom and the intel is something that I would not notice on my system.
However, if you want to suggest other combinations then I suppose that is what Im asking.
Thanks

Is the intel version "better"? Yes more cache is one reason.

Is it nearly twice as good (concerning price), i would say no.

Would you notice the difference in day to day stuff? No

Benchmarking wise the intel would net some more points im sure.
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If you have never built a pc before, I would suggest looking at a fe guides/videos on the Internet. It is really easy to do though. Are you sure you want an AMD build? At the moment intel is dominating just about every niche. In terms of a power supply, don't get a cheapo one or one that comes with a case - I have seen so many systems destroyed by shoddy psus.

man you've got to be joking. the cheaper 7x0 tricores will eat your processor for lunch. so stop bashing amd. phenom 2s are different now.
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man you've got to be joking. that cpu of yours will just be eat by a cheaper 7x0 tricore for lunch. stop bashing amd. phenom 2s are different.

Im sure he didnt intend to "bash amd" he just didnt know about the PHII's.

Heck i didnt know until recently. (darned school takes me away from OCN)
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Not trying to start an AMD vs Intel war guys.. I dont even know how to over clock so I doubt i'd notice the diff between the two. Just really need RAM and PSU advice. WHat kind of wattage should I go for with a PSU? Could I put a Thermaltake PSU in an Antec Case and visa versa or are PSU's generally only suited to different kinds of cases?
Thanks!
PSU: 650tx should be good. The 520 modular ones by Corsair should also do the trick, and make cable management a bit happier.

RAM: Get at least 1000 Mhz RAM or you'll be mad at yourself that you didn't when you're overclocking. WHICH YOU WILL DO!


HS: TRUE is the best heatsink out there (Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme) but I have had incredible results with my unlapped xiggy (Xigmatek hdt1283. (15 idle and 45 load with a 1.5 V Q6600).
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Power Supplies are all built to what is known as an ATX standard developed by engineers a few years back. They are all compatible with all cases (for all intents and purposes). I recommend corsair products just becuase they strongly support their products and they are very reliable.
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Not trying to start an AMD vs Intel war guys.

No worries happens all the time lol


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Could I put a Thermaltake PSU in an Antec Case and visa versa or are PSU's generally only suited to different kinds of cases?
Thanks!

In general you can put any brand PSU in any brand case. They are almost all universal. (i only say almost all since im sure theres got to be one out there that breaks the mold)

sigh i type too slow.
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hehe but i sure hope he certain about something especially when he says something negative. or else people will be misinformed, and poor amd


anyway, a good brand of psu like thermaltake, will handle that 4850x2 even with 500w. just make it above 550 to be sure, and 650 if you plan to crossfire.
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RAM: Get at least 1000 Mhz RAM or you'll be mad at yourself that you didn't when you're overclocking. WHICH YOU WILL DO!


Hah, yeah You will. Any reason why you cant OC with 800mhz ram? There doesnt seem to be much gain with faster ram from what im reading. But if you have the budget to spend the extra 20$ by all means get the faster sticks.
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Thanks to all of you for the help. One last question.. In regards to the comments about heatsinks do I need to upgrade the factory cpu cooling if I am not overclocking?
Thanks again this has been very helpful.
the stock cooler is fine if you don't overclock. don't worry
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Hah, yeah You will. Any reason why you cant OC with 800mhz ram? There doesnt seem to be much gain with faster ram from what im reading. But if you have the budget to spend the extra 20$ by all means get the faster sticks.

I haven't had the opportunity to overclock with hyperthreads but the way it works with the rest is you more or less wanna get your FSB as high as possible (which may incidentally overclock your RAM if it is not rated high enough and there are no lower multipliers available). I had a friend who ran into problems overclocking his CPU cuz his RAM couldn't handle the FSB speed required for his overclock! (he was running ddr2 800)

Also, the price of 1066 RAM versus 800 is next to (if not actually) nothing.
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