[StuffStuff1]

So it been brought up again and again but it has been rejected for the general reason of it looks messy. I think we should be allowed to have a user bar in ocn.

I posted this in another thread but i figured it might get a more direct response if i reposted it here.

Userbars are small 350x19 res Pics. Normally they are used to represent club member ship / Interest.

I known that when your in like the EVGA forums or any other having the miles of useless spam in signatures is annoying and the fact that OCN isnt like that is part of the appeal that brings people in it.

How ever i do think that there can be a place for alittle wiggle room. That may help increase the amount of personality for each user, increase revenue, and Maintain the professionalism that attracts users

So much like we are allowed to choose user titles and when we become a "over clocked user" we are allowed to write our own.

What if we did something similar with A user bar. So every user will be allowed just 1 user bar from a list of pre-approved user bars.

So lets supposed i decided to get a Oc'ed account or got the 200 + rep and been here for 1 year

So now i get a extra option to enable a user bar

then from that list i can choose suppose this one (I made it really quickly)

I think thats really good looking..

 

[mbudden]

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Originally Posted by StuffStuff1 How ever i do think that there can be a place for alittle wiggle room. That may help increase the amount of personality for each user, increase revenue, and Maintain the professionalism that attracts users

People have a whole range of freedom to express their personality in words. Images just ruin the simplicity of the site.

Increase revenue? Don't see how that would happen.
& I doubt it will maintain it. There is always that ONE person.

If people are allowed this ONE image. Then people will complain they want more and more and it will become this whole big thing.

I personally like how it is and I'm against the use of images etc in the signature. I head over to XDA's forums and people have mile long signatures.

 

[StuffStuff1]

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Originally Posted by mbudden People have a whole range of freedom to express their personality in words. Images just ruin the simplicity of the site. Increase revenue? Don't see how that would happen. & I doubt it will maintain it. There is always that ONE person. If people are allowed this ONE image. Then people will complain they want more and more and it will become this whole big thing. I personally like how it is and I'm against the use of images etc in the signature. I head over to XDA's forums and people have mile long signatures.

If you offer more extras for people who pay to get a over clocked account the more tempted people would be to get it

Well they have done a good job of not allowing any images on the sigs since 05. I dont think they will fold that easy

This is why im asking for a system that is heavily regulated. I hate when people fill there sigs with spam. If you give people to much freedom they will abuse it.

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[mbudden]

If it could be done in a classy, non-messy way. Then I'm all for it.

 

[StuffStuff1]

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Originally Posted by mbudden If it could be done in a classy, non-messy way. Then I'm all for it.

Thats what im aiming for.

 

[MistaBernie]

Unless you can automate the 'heavy regulation', you'd essentially be opening up alot of work for an already overworked moderation staff. This would have to be something that would be a feature that would be hard-coded to allow an image ONLY of that size and only in the one particular place, but that's only part of the problem. You can't have an automated system weed out TOS violating pictures, so it would have to be something that OCN would have control over the generation of as well, and that seems like an awful lot of hassle.

 

[StuffStuff1]

I think you miss understood.

You dont put in a IMG code in your signature

Its a drop down menu with already pre approved userbars. And just like user titles if you think one should be added you can put it in a suggestion thread..

This is supposted to be all automated.

 

[MistaBernie]

Yep, I see that I did.

Seems like something that would be nice to add; the next hurdle would be, what could be included for images?

 

[[Adz]]

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Originally Posted by MistaBernie Unless you can automate the 'heavy regulation', you'd essentially be opening up alot of work for an already overworked moderation staff. This would have to be something that would be a feature that would be hard-coded to allow an image ONLY of that size and only in the one particular place, but that's only part of the problem. You can't have an automated system weed out TOS violating pictures, so it would have to be something that OCN would have control over the generation of as well, and that seems like an awful lot of hassle.

With the sig size restriction, that is a simple technical matter. There are two options:
1) Use the [sigpic] tag. The user must upload a userbar and then incorporate it into the signature using [sigpic] instead of .
2) Avatars are checked for over-sizing when a user selects an avatar, even if it's linked to from a remote site. The same system with difference size values would work.

As for the content of the images itself, it comes down to the community. OCN has never been pre-moderated, so that would still apply to images. Inappropriate signature images would be reported in the same way avatars and problematic posts are dealt with.

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I think you miss understood.

You dont put in a IMG code in your signature

Its a drop down menu with already pre approved userbars. And just like user titles if you think one should be added you can put it in a suggestion thread..

This is supposted to be all automated.

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I'm all for having userbars, having suggested it in the past, but I am strongly against only having a selection of pre-approved userbars. That, in my opinion, just ruins the entire spirit behind it. It's no longer customised, it's just a prettier version of the user-titles under the username.

Then there is the issue of being unbiased and attempting to accommodate the tastes of the vast majority. Example: if you have a userbar for EVGA GPU fans, you need to have one for every other GPU manufacturer out there. And then you may need various designs so there is a good selection to choose from.
You can see that it suddenly becomes too big to handle efficiently.

On the other hand, you allow people to use custom userbars of their own choice and then reactively moderate the content. As I stated before, since sigs, avatars and the rest of the content on the site are all reactively moderated (as opposed to pre-moderated), I see no reason for userbars to be an exception to that. The only pre-moderation that applies would be the automated size restriction that also applies to avatars.

Custom userbars allow people to use whatever they want without having to worry about catering to what everyone wants. It allows the artists amongst us to be creative and could potentially lead to a whole userbar requests section where people could request custom signatures and those who have the skill and time to make one could fill that request.

In summary, a massive +1 to allowing userbars but an even bigger -1 to only having a pre-approved set of userbars.

 

[StuffStuff1]

Can we get a mod to weight in on this?

 

[Lige]

While I may not be a "mod" I am still staff, and I can guarantee you that the policy won't change with pictures, HTML, etc in the signature.
There is no easy way to enforce what you have suggested. Even if we only allowed 1

 

[StuffStuff1]

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Originally Posted by GH0;13056326
Speaking for myself, I honestly love just having text,because I don't have to deal with scrolling through signatures that look terrible. It just looks better. Less is more.

Well thats what a user bar is. Its small its to the point and it looks good.

Im pretty sure there is a way you can limit the

 

[pjBSOD]

The sig space is clean enough, I prefer no images in sigs.

 

[blupupher]

As GHO said, it has been suggested multiple times in several ways to allow this, and it has always been no.
Also, the manpower needed for this to work is huge.
If you have a standard set of images, the initial process is a huge undertaking, and then you will continually have people requesting additional images and changes to the current ones.
If you let anyone make up their own, then you will have all kinds of flashy/cheesy/gaudy looking badges, and more work for the mod staff to take care of it.

I like the fact of no pics/images in sigs. I personally don't really care for the badges, but they are very muted and don't stand out.

If you want it, just add the image to every one of your posts at the end.

 

[PapaSmurf]

Question. The current system can't handle dealing with the morons who post oversized 10 meg images to show something the size of a 3" x 3" post it note the way it is, so what makes the OP here think it would be able to do any better dealing with images in sigs? Answer, it can't and shouldn't have to.

Question. The current system can't handle all of the people who have oversized sigs and sigs with any number of other violations in them the way it is, so what makes the OP think it could handle adding images, even something that is supposedly as simple as what he proposes? Answer, it can't and shouldn't have to.

The current sig system that is in place is fine and doesn't need any changes or modifications.

 

[StuffStuff1]

The system can handle the oversized images and to some extent does.

The Mods decided that some pics just need to be of high resolution so they allow them to exist. How ever to combat the hours of scrolling the site automatically shrinks it \

nd yes the system can handle the oversized sigs like yours. Character limits, Line limits and limited font size all contribute to this. Yours is as big as it gets.

The site can handle it. And according to a post i read in another thread it has the bandwidth and the storage to do it. Its just a matter if the mods will allow it.

Im asking to have it with heavy regulation because i know what can happen if it isnt kept in check.

 

[PapaSmurf]

It TOLERATES the oversized images, it definitely doesn't handle them. If it did it wouldn't allow them to be uploaded in the first place as I rarely see one that warrants being larger than 800x600 or 1024x768. Even though it downsizes them users are still forced to download them even though there is nothing in them that needs to be that large.

My sig is well within the limits. It just took a LOT of work to be able to do it. Throw some useless images into sigs and it all falls apart. But my point about not handling sigs is that it allows poorly coded sigs to extend well past the limits of what is allowed. But maybe CONTROL them is a better way of putting it. If they system that is currently in place can't control the existing limits of text when users openly defy it, then what makes you think it can contrl users from abusing the images.

 

[StuffStuff1]

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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf It TOLERATES the oversized images, it definitely doesn't handle them. If it did it wouldn't allow them to be uploaded in the first place as I rarely see one that warrants being larger than 800x600 or 1024x768. Even though it downsizes them users are still forced to download them even though there is nothing in them that needs to be that large. My sig is well within the limits. It just took a LOT of work to be able to do it. Throw some useless images into sigs and it all falls apart. But my point about not handling sigs is that it allows poorly coded sigs to extend well past the limits of what is allowed. But maybe CONTROL them is a better way of putting it. If they system that is currently in place can't control the existing limits of text when users openly defy it, then what makes you think it can contrl users from abusing the images.

Your allowed to have 2000K words.

Im asking that were allowed 1 IMG
Ohh and the system will block it if its bigger then 350x19 (AKA User bar size)

How can you abuse a system that strict?

 

[[Adz]]

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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf;13069386
Question. The current system can't handle dealing with the morons who post oversized 10 meg images to show something the size of a 3" x 3" post it note the way it is, so what makes the OP here think it would be able to do any better dealing with images in sigs? Answer, it can't and shouldn't have to.

Question. The current system can't handle all of the people who have oversized sigs and sigs with any number of other violations in them the way it is, so what makes the OP think it could handle adding images, even something that is supposedly as simple as what he proposes? Answer, it can't and shouldn't have to.

The current sig system that is in place is fine and doesn't need any changes or modifications.

In terms of the actual image size itself, the system could easily handle it. Try uploading an avatar larger than 120x120 and see what happens.

Answer: the system automatically resizes it. Similarly, to exercise control over the userbar image, OCN could deny use of the tag in favour of using the [sigpic] tag and pass the uploaded image through the same resizing function, albeit with different size parameters.

As for oversized signatures, they are something we will always have to deal with, regardless what rules are imposed. If someone has an oversized signature, eventually they'll get PM'd about it and told to change it; whether they have an image or not in the signature is irrelevant.