[Phoenixlight]

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR
I was right, my ES "Zambezi OR-C0" sample is Piledriver based CPU FX-8300. Here is proof, retail chip FX-8350 on CPUz screen. Ive told you, OR-C0 (stepping 0) is Retail stepping. Ive tested Retail FX-8300 stepping in my preview.

As much as I hate the guy for his poor grammar and biased attitude it does look like the desktop incarnation of Piledriver is just a fixed version of Bulldozer which won't be using Piledriver cores. This doesn't mean that it won't still be a 10% improvement over Bulldozer though.

Source

Here's a picture from a recent AMD event which shows the FX-8350 with the same revision code:

 

[RJacobs28]

Bugger this. I'm not paying any extra for performance when they've just fixed a botched version of the same architecture.

They should be offering a free upgrade on my original $250 purchase if anything!!

 

[AznDud333]

9ghz Seems legit

 

[Alatar]

The 9GHz validation is from a guy who was banned from Hwbot twice for bugged results and lying about his cooling solutions. In other words it's fake.

 

[jason387]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alatar

The 9GHz validation is from a guy who was banned from Hwbot twice for bugged results and lying about his cooling solutions. In other words it's fake.

Isn't this the same guy who claimed that Bulldozer was going to make it big? And this is his site...Right?
http://www.obr-hardware.com/2012/09/preview-amd-fx-8350-piledriver-last.html

 

[AznDud333]

meh..i hope the 8350 catches up to 2600k at the very least, we could use some competition in the x86 space...

 

[Imglidinhere]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alatar

The 9GHz validation is from a guy who was banned from Hwbot twice for bugged results and lying about his cooling solutions. In other words it's fake.

Or jelly peeps being jelly of his golden CPU?

(kidding.)

 

[just_nuke_em]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imglidinhere

Or jelly peeps being jelly of his golden CPU?

(kidding.)

So jelly

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2435130

Here's hoping PD can actually get close to this

 

[HobieCat]

Quote:

Originally Posted by just_nuke_em

So jelly

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2435130

Here's hoping PD can actually get close to this

I was just about to do the same with my bugged run

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2430928

 

[Kasp1js]

Isn't a slightly fixed bulldozer the definition of piledriver? what else did he expect

 

[black96ws6]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason387

Isn't this the same guy who claimed that Bulldozer was going to make it big? And this is his site...Right?
http://www.obr-hardware.com/2012/09/preview-amd-fx-8350-piledriver-last.html

No he's always hated Bulldozer

http://www.obr-hardware.com/2011/09/must-have-for-bulldozer-crap.html

 

[jason387]

He talks like as if he expected an 8core to be the performance of a 4core when it comes to PD. I am just hoping that the IMC scales well and a quad on stock(4Ghz) would maybe equal a Phenom II x4 at 3.8Ghz. That would be good as PD can overclock higher than the Phenom II limits. Funny how we try to compare PD to the Phenom II's, two generations old but still the best performer. I would definitely be taken by surprise if PD performs better than the Phenom II, clock to clock. I need an upgrade so if PD doesn't pull through I will quickly go in for the Phenom II x6 1055T

 

[Phoenixlight]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasp1js

Isn't a slightly fixed bulldozer the definition of piledriver? what else did he expect

Well I and many others were hoping for Piledriver cores within the CPU instead of just fixing a few issues with Bulldozer.

 

[frozne]

Fixing some issues with Bulldozer is all Piledriver is. It still is the same concept, as steamroller will also be the same concept just with larger tweaks.

 

[Tsumi]

Piledriver as seen in Trinity: "Piledriver: Bulldozer Tuned" - as stated by Anandtech

"Soft" edge flops replaced with "hard" edge flops to reduce power consumption (10-20% lower).
RCM technology added for reduced power consumption.
Refined schedulers to improve IPC.
Prefetch and branch prediction improved.
Secondary branch predictor added.
FMA3 and F16C added, FMA4 removed.
Various other "small" tweaks.

 

[Phoenixlight]

Well I guess it doesn't matter how it's being made as long as it performs well, doesn't use a massive amount of power and comes at a reasonable price,

 

[Artikbot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozne

Fixing some issues with Bulldozer is all Piledriver is. It still is the same concept, as steamroller will also be the same concept just with larger tweaks.

Wasn't Phenom II a 'fixed' Agena? And yet performance was stellar compared to it.

 

[drbaltazar]

me?i hope amd stop being stupid,and use twitch.tv for once.how do exactly what user do .hell amd should call towellie and go to his place to test the 8350 ,7970 with arcosft or any gpgpu software amd feel can perform.and compare with towellie actual gear .if i recal he has an i 7 2600 oc to 4.5,with a gtx 690 .i am positive a amd gpgpu would be on par with towellie system.just ask towellie to stream this live with gw 2.why? suppodly gw2 can be punishing at max setting .(ok amd might need to pay towelliee internet bill during test ,since he lock bitrate to 3500..anyway the idea is ro live stream the event with known figure.towelliee,athene for eu,swifty all are known globally.swifty is even live on youtube and is sponsored by razor.

 

[Capt]

Apple will sue amd for releasing another fail CPU.

 

[ZeProfessor]

I know obr has been right before but he has also done all kinds of stupid stuff ill reserve judgement until there is an official release