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Magnitude water block info
This block was engineered from the ground up, no components were reused. Every piece of EK's Magnitude CPU water block is CNC machined. The mounting mechanism is a 3D Aluminum frame that hides the screws and makes them flush with the surface of the mounting frame. For the design, it won a prestigious iF design award (more info here: https://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry/272178-ek-magnitude)
D-RGB models have 30 individually addressable LEDs on a dense strip.
The copper cold plate uses 0.40mm wide microchannels and 0.26mm thick microfins to maximize the thermal transfer with minimal flow restriction. Overall it has about 50% larger heat transfer area while having a smaller footprint than previous generation EK water blocks.

At this early stage, it is currently confirmed that it's the top performer on 115X platform - being tested by TechPowerUp.


Official product page: https://www.ekwb.com/custom-loop/quantum-magnitude-cpu-block/

Breakdown of the water block components video:

Magnitude water block socket options


Magnitude has distinct 115X, 20XX and AM4 socket options.
The 115X and 20XX differ in the curvature of the cold plate and mounting pressure, while the AM4 shares the same cold plate design with the 20XX, the insert is completely different as it directs the flow to the chiplets that are offset, unlike the Intel designs where the die is centered. The blocks were separated on a per-socket basis to make sure internal geometry and mounting pressure could be specialized for each socket to ensure maximum performance.

Magnitude water block aesthetic options


Several options are available with acetal, plexi or full metal tops. Base plate has nickel and copper options, while the insert is nickel-plated brass or bare brass.
The solid-top ones with D-RGB shine outward, while the Plexi ones shine inwards.

Magnitude water block accent frames


Magnitude can be customized with colored accent rings that match the EK-Torque fitting accent rings. They are either anodized aluminum for most color options, while the nickel one is made of nickel-plated brass.

How to use Magnitude with Rockit IHS/lapped IHS or bare-die
Magnitude cold plate comes curved, so it is not performing optimally with these cooling choices. EK makes separate flat cold plates for this kind of cooling. It also comes with a specific 0.5 thickness jet plate which is made exclusively for this cold plate.


Magnitude reviews and videos

115X performance review from TPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ek-quantum-magnitude-cpu-water-block/
 

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Sure made Optimus offerings look like a value :)

Even the foundation copper plexi beat heatkiller 4 pro copper plexi at 4.5 through 4.8 pretty easily and at only 119.us

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-water-cooling/1733810-optimus-waterblock-59.html#post28261118

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-water-cooling/1733810-optimus-waterblock-205.html#post28347136

At 256.us for a copper acetal though way out of my testing range.
Yeah, the 0.1C better is cute and all....but it really takes on a different look when you bother to include this:



We must note right away that aesthetics and build quality do not necessarily translate directly here, especially with intricate metal tops, RGB lighting, and integrated displays that add to the cost but are not quantifiable as a performance metric. This is especially the case here with all the various different custom parts in the EK-Quantum Magnitude, yet this full nickel variant occupying the current worst spot in the chart is not a good sign, especially when EK's own previously released CPU block currently offers the best value for money.
 

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weird how we're all of a sudden measuring PSI instead of flow? does techpowerup go into how they get that metric? i assume it can only mean they're running an AC MIPS device? if so, then give us the full read out you dorks.

either way, congrats to EK for finally realizing their custom segment was suffering.

still weird to see a large european shop not be able to compete with their competition on price.
 

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maybe they're just catching onto the modern tech trend of having a stupidly high MSRP, but always having it on sale for 15-25% less :D "deals on deals on deals on deals!"

people are flipping stupid, and EK has spent the last 3-4 years trying to tap into that market via their AIO game.
 

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Yeah, the 0.1C better is cute and all....but it really takes on a different look when you bother to include this:
Hi,
Thought the same about optimus blocks too mostly the SigV2 seeing it was nearly 200.us
But after messing with both foundation and SigV2 they do scale very well as clocks go up and way better than HK 4 pro does so if the new ek offerings do the same it might be worth the extra costs to someone :)

I'm not a fan of TPU testing methods but at least they tested the 1151 block only
So there is still an untested 2066 ek block which may or may not do the same or better than optimus blocks ?

I'm in chat with the op
My testing may not be scientific enough for a ek sample though sure would be nice to see what this block can actually do and is adjustable where as optimus blocks aren't.
 

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weird how we're all of a sudden measuring PSI instead of flow? does techpowerup go into how they get that metric? i assume it can only mean they're running an AC MIPS device? if so, then give us the full read out you dorks.

either way, congrats to EK for finally realizing their custom segment was suffering.

still weird to see a large european shop not be able to compete with their competition on price.
So you've never read the testing methodology? That has been basically standard for a decade?

A dwyer 490 that has been used by Martin, Stren, Fastfate, VSG etc etc

Some things make more sense now.


Yeah, the 0.1C better is cute and all....but it really takes on a different look when you bother to include this:
At least they didn't claim it would 5 or 8 or 10C better.

Its 0.1 at 1GPM. You won't be getting 1 GPM of flow with a couple of optimus blocks in the system thats for sure.
That's why pressure drop matters. Testing at the same flow rate is important for consistency but in real loops the flows will not be the same.
 

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At least they didn't claim it would 5 or 8 or 10C better.

Its 0.1 at 1GPM. You won't be getting 1 GPM of flow with a couple of optimus blocks in the system thats for sure.
That's why pressure drop matters. Testing at the same flow rate is important for consistency but in real loops the flows will not be the same.
Hi,
I've shown just the optimus foundation is 4c better just at 4.5 and 7c better at 4.8 than heatkiller 4 pro clock for clock being equal but if images are too tough for you to read then just go by the highlighted lowest core temperature and the Max core temperature with the red square around it and do simple math.

Flow is an easy fix by just flush trimming off the excess o-ring where the cooling fin impressions are

 

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If the price is too high for your taste, there is the Full Nickel, all-metal Velocity which is only 1.4°C worse than the Signature and costs 100 bucks less, but I don't see anyone mentioning that relation. Going further, the Classic Supremacy block had the same performance related to the V2 and costs 140 bucks less, yet no one is mentioning that.

The only thing important, as it seems, is that a water block with more options, a unique design, with better performance, way better flow rates, is more expensive than the second-placed in performance, which has just two material version available, and has a much worse flow ratio. If you take all of this into account, doesn't it seem fair that the Magnitude is more expensive? I mean no one is forcing you to buy it. By the logic I have seen here the Classic Supremacy block is the best pick, which offers 307% more Performance per Dollar related to the V2.

So my question is. What is important to you?
The price?
The performance?
The design?
Material choices and customization?
Flow rates?
Country of origin?
Fancy marketing words like "space-grade" or "cast acrylic"?

It seems to me that the three available EK products cover each category, but still, I see a lot of flaming.
I have always respected the competition that was innovative enough to come up with their own products and own design
and had a unique look. The market is big enough to have competition and to push the boundaries so my primary role here is not to diss the competition.

I'm just trying to use some common sense here and to get some real feedback, other than "EK is garbage" so that EK can work on their upcoming products.
I really hope that we can avoid distasteful and rude comments, and have a healthy conversation and get insight on whats is important for members of this forum.
Thanks!
 

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Well I have a lot of ek parts so ek hardly sucks lol
Started out with 2 ek 280 performance kits

Velocity well I never saw the need seeing I got a couple copper plexi heatkiller 4 pro instead
They did better than old ek evo's but they cost nearly 100.us seeing watercool doesn't stock a copper plexi "special order" and shipping from the EU is 30 euros period.

So 119.00 for a optimus foundation isn't all that much more and is outright better performer so far

256.19 for a 2066 copper acetal isn't going to happen for just for a peek or testing too steep
Velocity there's no sense in trying it it's no better than HK 4 pro that I've noticed.

Just on the TPU thermal performance page it shows velocity at 41.05c and HK 4 pro is rated at 40.50
Testing method aside which many are saying the method is not near cpu stressful enough and nobody goes by temp averages = max temps only matter at high clocks.
 

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Any review Magnitude block with ryzen 3000? why only intel :D
 

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Any review Magnitude block with ryzen 3000? why only intel :D
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TechPowerUp has a very limited budget obviously :)
Last i read he would be waiting for someone to send him a board/ chip and memory :D

Here's his response just about more max core temp data lol he has to have it seeing his averages rely on a min max to get an average still nothing offered.
 

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Any review Magnitude block with ryzen 3000? why only intel :D
Ah, there I found "my official" account, the Steamroller83 is my old one. :D
So, we were also not happy with the 9900K because our internal testing showed the least performance improvements on the 115x socket. The 20xx platform had the biggest improvements,
and the offset jet insert in the AM4 is also helping.
Alex from Bit-Tech is setting up his own setup and will be doing a roundup of CPU blocks, but there is no precise date on when that will be.
Unfortunately, XtremeRigs only has a Threadripper setup at the moment, so we are open to any suggestions for AM4 and 20xx reviews.
 

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3950x's are dropping nicely in price now at 700.us local micro center
Getting difficult not to jump on one but if 2066 10 series ever actually becomes available amd 3k might drop some more or 10...x series might drop in price.

Little 9940x of mine is doing pretty good but I do have another x299 board doing nothing.
 

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Ah, there I found "my official" account, the Steamroller83 is my old one. :D
So, we were also not happy with the 9900K because our internal testing showed the least performance improvements on the 115x socket. The 20xx platform had the biggest improvements,
and the offset jet insert in the AM4 is also helping.
Alex from Bit-Tech is setting up his own setup and will be doing a roundup of CPU blocks, but there is no precise date on when that will be.
Unfortunately, XtremeRigs only has a Threadripper setup at the moment, so we are open to any suggestions for AM4 and 20xx reviews.
i do really want to see them to throw a 500w load out of the socket sustained that be funny to watch XD
 

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i do really want to see them to throw a 500w load out of the socket sustained that be funny to watch XD
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Ditto
For some reason someone/ testers always find a scientific way to cloud results from what oc'ers really want to see. max core temps against another block this seems way to simplistic :confused:
 

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Ditto
For some reason someone/ testers always find a scientific way to cloud results from what oc'ers really want to see. max core temps against another block this seems way to simplistic :confused:
they dont even need to do the wathever x cpu required time to do the whole suit on blender benchmark classroom and pavillion run would be enough to get some decent numbers XD
or loop classroom for a couple of runs to get a baseline pavilionn would be the hardest outside p95 with avx.. more heavy and realistic test out of them all...

they can also get a consistent load out of p95 without abusing the cpu with a non avx fft of 28 or 2 digits ffts and try to get the constant "wattage" package load at the desired voltage.. what matter here is the wattage usage out of the socket perse to stress the block cooling performane.....

at this point i feel im giving free assistance to "mainstream" reviewers
 

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Wow, they want $269 for the full nickel version? Since when did CPU waterblocks get this expensive? The massive sTRX40 Velocity full nickel block was only like $130.
 
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