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That was looking good! A shame you had to stop but I know how it is <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">.<br>
What would you want for a couple?<br>
Looks like you have the tools and skills for the job. I tend to make work for myself by doing everything by hand. Tools cost too much <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That was looking good! A shame you had to stop but I know how it is <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">.<br>
What would you want for a couple?<br>
Looks like you have the tools and skills for the job. I tend to make work for myself by doing everything by hand. Tools cost too much <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"></div>
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All I have is a table saw and scroll saw! Then again, that pretty much covers 95% of it, heh <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">. Been planning on getting a buffing wheel too though, sanding is a real PAIN.<br><br>
And I dunno, not much I guess, they are pretty simple pieces. I'll send you a PM.
 

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Laurie, where did you get those blank keycaps for that M2? Do you know of anywhere to find some for Model Ms?
 

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This is interesting. I've always thought keyboards like the G15 such were the bomb, but I guess this has changed my mind about gaming keyboards.<br><br>
Thanks for posting this.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">This is interesting. I've always thought keyboards like the G15 such were the bomb, but I guess this has changed my mind about gaming keyboards.<br><br>
Thanks for posting this.</div>
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Glad it was useful <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"><br><br>
I've been meaning to update the list of keyboards with a couple more, I think I'll do that now.
 
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Anyone know what the Logitech Illuminated Keyboard uses for switches?<br>
I have one... and I love it.<br>
Perfect key recognition even at high speeds and it is actually good looking too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick out tounge caps">
 

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Hey.<br>
I don't know what you mean by m2 sorry <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown"><br>
I know you can get blank caps and whole keys from Unicomp in black or white.<br>
The blacks are one piece and the white ones are two piece.<br>
Its where I got mine from.<br><br>
Laurie.<br><br>
Oh and at a guess on the logitech illuminated I would say a high quality scissor switch. These are the same as on most laptops. The scissor is just a mechanism to help the key stay level and the actuator is still a rubber dome over a pcb or membrane.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Anyone know what the Logitech Illuminated Keyboard uses for switches?<br>
I have one... and I love it.<br>
Perfect key recognition even at high speeds and it is actually good looking too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick out tounge caps"></div>
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Scissor switches w/rubber domes, like laptops. They're tons better than regular keyboards, that's for sure <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
Hey as long as you like the feel of it that's great. But whenever you're due for a new keyboard at least try out a tactile mechanical first. I bet it won't be that long from now either, Logitech's scissor switches only last a few months before becoming stiff. Happened with me with both an UltraX and diNovo edge.<br><br>
By the way, any idea if Unicomp makes <i>clear</i> keytops as well?
 

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Hey, I'm looking at the Optimus Maximus keyboard. What's your insight on it Manyak?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hey, I'm looking at the Optimus Maximus keyboard. What's your insight on it Manyak?</div>
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It uses Cherry MLs...short travel, nice feedback.<br><br>
But do you really want to pay $1500 for it? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/eek.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!">
 

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I found someone on ebay selling a bunch of Compaq MX11800s (Cherry Browns) brand new. If you wanna try out this switches without paying a ton for a Filco or whatever, here's your chance <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
Even if you don't care for the switches this is a good board to keep as a spare (especially if you have a headless server in the house) because of the built in trackball.<br><br><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337413396&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26Item%3D290304287246%26Category%3D56092%26_trkparms%3Dalgo%253DLVI%2526its%253DI%2526otn%253D2" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3DI%26otn%3D2</a><br><br><img alt="" src="http://i4.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/3b/87/8cad_1_sbl.JPG" style="border:0px solid;">
 

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Balls. He wont ship to the UK. I don't have any browns any more <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Balls. He wont ship to the UK. I don't have any browns any more <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown"></div>
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More keyboards added <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 

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What keys do the Razer Tarantula have i have that one atm? I just won a SteelSeries 7G is that keyboard good?
 

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The Tarantular uses some of the worst rubber domes I have ever used. They are thin and feel mushy and horrible.<br>
It uses cheaper parts than a $20 logitech.<br>
The stealseries 7G on the other hand uses Cherry black mechanical linear switches.<br>
They are one of the best options for gaming and its a fantastic board! I love that you can use it with or without the oversized palm rest.<br>
You should enjoy it very much.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What keys do the Razer Tarantula have i have that one atm? I just won a SteelSeries 7G is that keyboard good?</div>
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It uses rubber domes, just like regular cheap keyboards.<br><br>
The SteelSeries 7G uses Cherry MX Black switches, which are linear (no tactile bump, no click except if you bottom out). Some people really like these switches for typing (who knows, you might be one of them). But even if you don't, IMO they are still the best for a pure gaming keyboard. I've found that I can jump around keys a bit faster with them than any other switch, and I get almost no accidental double-key presses if my finger lands in between keys when I have to move away from the WSAD cluster (which I used to pretty often).<br><br>
YMMV because everyone's got different tastes, but I'd say that yes its a great board for gaming, and I'd be willing to bet that it won't even take you 1 full minute of use to ditch the Tarantula for good <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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I'm interested.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br>
What is tactile feedback like? Is it like a false bottom for the keys? And if you push harder they bottom out? Do you need to overcome the resistance for the keystroke to register or something?<br>
I'm wondering what would be a nice cheap keyboard that I could get to see if these are right for me. What would you recommend? I don't have paypal so I can't get the compaq you posted.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm interested.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br>
What is tactile feedback like? Is it like a false bottom for the keys? And if you push harder they bottom out? Do you need to overcome the resistance for the keystroke to register or something?<br>
I'm wondering what would be a nice cheap keyboard that I could get to see if these are right for me. What would you recommend? I don't have paypal so I can't get the compaq you posted.</div>
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Tactile feedback is basically a sudden change in the force of the key. Some switches do it like you are describing, while others just suddenly give way. For example, buckling springs will increase their resistance gradually until the actuation point, and then the spring buckles to the side which suddenly drops the resistance almost completely until you bottom out.<br><br>
But without using ebay it's pretty much impossible to get a cheap mechanical keyboard, you're looking at around $60+ for anything brand new. Maybe I can help you though....
 

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There are switches that have a very slight tactile feedback. The brown cherry switches for example only have a very slight bump on the way down. The idea being that you develop the muscle memory to not bottom out the key after the little bump.<br>
It helps you type faster and is better for the fingers.<br>
Like manyak says it can be hard to find a cheap new mechanical board.<br>
The switches in a lot of them cost around $1 each. So it soon adds up with all the keys <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br>
I wish you luck finding one though. It might be an idea to try boot sales and charity shops. You can get lucky and find Model Ms. Not so much in the UK though as there are laws about selling used electrical equipment sigh.<br><br>
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