[nonamelab]

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[Stolly76]

Hi I joined this community as of couple of days ago and have posted in the new member thread only. I have mentioned I'm new to liquid cooling and have only ever done air cooling overclocking. I'm about to start a new build possibly Start of May and haven't got all my parts yet. I am an owner of this motherboard which is why i'm interested to post here. I waited a year for this board to drop in price and also see how the bios and support would go with a ryzen 7 2700x cpu I purchased also. Here is the following info I can provide. I hope any experts with this board can help me with this situation. I will pay a visit to the cooling threads for air cooling and water cooling as I'm still undecided. I appreciate any help please so i can order my cooling parts to finish off my build before start of May.



PCpartpicker build---> https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Stolly76/saved/XpbvWZ


Just wanted to post up my new build that I've started collecting since a month ago. Only parts left that I'm in doubt with are the cooling side of things.

Case fans and Cpu cooler to be exact. I've got a list so far from yesterday as I am doing my research before i make my final decision.

I don't want to make a mistake with this as it's an important part for my build to compliment my case. I'm wanting to overclock the 2700x to 4.2 (4.3 if lucky, but not worried if i can't) 500mhz jump up from 3.7 is decent enough for me.

I know fellow members that have the same cpu and motherboard as me on overclock.net are running their system at 4.2 atm. Bios updates have been helping with board.

I would have picked an Intel system like I planned originally if the board wasn't stable from researching. I've been waiting over a year for the price drop of it too. It was too expensive to begin with.

I don't believe it should have been a $300 US board back in 2017. Here are the following case fans and cpu coolers for cooling options. Please let me know what are the decent picks for me to narrow down with!

Also to note that I'm going with a monochrome theme white-black. Blue and white as my led lighting. (but not over the top with it) and I've also never done a build with water cooling before.

Thanks in advance,

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CPU air coolers :

CRYORIG R1 Universal https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/R1_Universal/

Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler Black Edition https://www.pccasegear.com/products/25603/phanteks-ph-tc14pe-cpu-cooler-black-edition

White edition https://www.pccasegear.com/products/25608/phanteks-ph-tc12dx-cpu-cooler-white-edition (i like the look of the black edition better it has a balance of both)

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CPU water coolers:

CRYORIG A40 and A80 Series Hybrid Liquid Cooler http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/cryorig_a40_and_a80_series_hybrid_liquid_cooler.html

Enermax LIQFusion 240 RGB https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/enermax-liqfusion-240-rgb-cpu-cooler,5612.html

Enermax LIQFUSION RGB 360 https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/enermax_liqfusion_rgb_360_review,1.html

Corsair Hydro H100i RGB PLATINUM SE Liquid CPU Cooler - White https://www.centrecom.com.au/corsair-hydro-h100i-rgb-platinum-se-liquid-cpu-cooler-white

Fractal Design Celsius S24 Liquid CPU Cooler https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39113/fractal-design-celsius-s24-liquid-cpu-cooler (or maybe the S36 version which is a 360mm aio)

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Case fans: wanting to replace rear and possibly another 2 x 120/140mm fans to replace the silverstone fans from case (can have 6-7 fans total depending on what choice I use for cpu cooler)

Corsair ML140 PRO LED 140mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan White
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/co...premium-magnetic-levitation-fan-white-ab84660

SilverStone FG141 140mm RGB LED Fan Grille (these are already in front of case x3-thinking about getting one for rear) https://www.mwave.com.au/product/silverstone-fg141-140mm-rgb-led-fan-grille-ac09440

Corsair ML140 140mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan - Twin Pack

https://2141-1.sli-r.com/rd/1/?e=WG...WaRVPtquC7oFwiENkMvDkmmW4rBQcOQkaUfBp7n8kXWZg

Corsair Air Series AF140 LED Quiet Edition Airflow 140mm Fan White

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/co...quiet-edition-airflow-140mm-fan-white-ab52963

(con is only 2 years warranty compared to 5 years for the others)

Corsair Air Series AF120 LED Quiet Edition Airflow 120mm Fan White

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/co...quiet-edition-airflow-120mm-fan-white-ab52447 (con is only 2 years warranty compared to 5 years for the others)

Corsair ML120 120mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan - Twin Pack https://www.mwave.com.au/product/co...ium-magnetic-levitation-fan-twin-pack-ab84653 (can also buy packs of 4 for $74)

Corsair LL120 SE Dual Light Loop RGB LED 120mm PWM Fan (only 2 years warranty) https://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-ll120-se-dual-light-loop-rgb-led-120mm-pwm-fan-ac20772

Looks only go well with the 240mm aio H100i, but also is costly compared to other options with 5 years warranties.

Corsair LL120 SE Dual Light Loop RGB LED 120mm PWM Fan - 3 Pack with Controller

https://2141-1.sli-r.com/rd/1/?e=WG...eEHkqfL7RdyfbX8m5h5FPWwtMXEHAGEnzExYtJphTtxsA

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Here is the rest of my parts I've collected for my new build: Feel free to constructively criticise anything (I'm not perfect with building- I try to be)

Cpu: Ryzen 7 2700x brand new $391AU 31/3 @ Computer Alliance

Motherboard: MSI x370 Xpower Gaming Titanium (ryzen 7 2700x support) brand new $176AU 31/3 @ MSY Technology

Memory: Patriot Viper DDR4 RGB 3200MHz (white) 32gb (4 x 8) RAM (MB supports it) brand new $393AU 30/3 @ 1 kit from Amazon Australia and 2nd kit Ebay online store

Videocard: Asus Strix ROG 1080ti used (just under 2 yrs warranty left with original paperwork) $600au 17/3 @ gumtree sale local

Storage: Patriot Viper VPN100 M.2-2280 1TB PCI Express 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive up to 3450mb/s read 3000mb/s write 4k IOPS read and write 600k brand new $267.29 discounted voucher 6/4 @ CCL Computers

Brand New Seagate Barracuda 8TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive $265AU 8/4 @ Nux Trading to be boosted up with Intel Optane Memory 32gb m2 $54AU 8/4 @ Scorptech

BRAND NEW Seagate Game Drive Hub 3.5E 8TB USB3.0 (as a backup drive for the barracuda drive) Helpful with streaming and videoediting. $202.50AU 13/4 @ Digitaltech

2TB Samsung 2.5" 860 QVO SATA 6Gb/s SSD PN MZ-76Q2T0BW $305.10AU 8/4 @ Computer Alliance

1TB Samsung 2.5" 860 EVO SATA 6Gb/s SSD PN MZ-76E1T0BW $188.10AU 8/4 @ Computer Alliance

Samsung 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 SATA III SSD $180AU 8/4 @ Gumtree sale local (1 month old paperwork included)

Powersupply: Brand new Corsair RM1000i Full Modular 1000W Gold ATX Power Supply PSU White $189.60AU 28/3 @ Techmall

Case: https://www.umart.com.au/Silverstone-PM01W-FX-Primera-White-ATX-Case-Window-No-PSU_44976G.html $201AU 26/3 @ Umart

Monitor: SAMSUNG H850 31.5" UHD(16:9) VA LED, 3840X2160, 4MS, HDMI, $609.96AU 12/3 @ Centre Com (got bang for buck with this to use for couple of years and plan to buy either

Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ or Acer Predator X27 (each $2,000 on Newegg) and buy for cheaper and the HDR tech along with RTX tech.

It should be at its peak by then so I'll pair up one of those screens with 2 x 2080ti SLI and possibly either whatever is best out of Intel Ice comet lake tech or AMD ryzen zen2 tech.

External Bluray burner: Pioneer External Slim Blu-ray Burner CD DVD Writer USB 3 Portable PC BDR-XD05TB $122.40AU 8/4 @ Digitaltech

Cost so far excluding cpu cooler and case fans = $4144.95

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My last build that I'm using now was back in 2016 (bang for buck 1080p gaming $1650 build) Had saved up some money since then for this year.

Originally planned for an Intel i5 9600k or i7 9700k with Gigabyte Aorus Ultra z390, but I would if it was strictly gaming only so the ryzen option made more sense for gaming plus stream and videoedit.

I appreciate anyone's time to comment here and I'll be patiently waiting as I plan to build the system start of May once I get the final cooling and case fan parts ordered etc

 

[djgromo]

Do you know which processors were added to compatibility list in last bios update (17 May 2019)?

- Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.1
- Support new upcoming AMD cpu.

 

[nonamelab]

U can use MCE Extractor : https://github.com/platomav/MCExtractor to see CPU microcodes included in bios files :

I attached results from comparing Titanium 7A31v1K with new 7A31v1M1, and comparisons with Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 bios 3.20 and X470 Aorus Gaming 7 WIFI-50 bios F40 witch i took from here https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/ultimative-am4-uefi-bios-ubersicht-21-05-19-a-1228903.html

All bioses dropped support for older AMD A APUs but the X470 & B450 AGESA ComboPI 1.0.0.1 bioses include also new 870F1 microcode wich is not in Titanium beta bios. But anyway at least they updated the other CPUs microcodes to latest version.

 

[0razor1]

Quick Q

Guys,

Would it make sense to flip this board and get any odd 470 right now or just keep on at it?
I have 3600CL17 B dies that I can never get to run at 3200+. I'm on the latest BIOS and all.
I've tried going up on baseclock, all sorts of safe and fast config options from the RAM timings config apps.
Borderline giving up now.

Running a 2600 at 4.1 GHz all core, 1.4VCore, 1.1 SOC. Tried geardown on/off etc.

 

[FJSAMA]

I have the same problem... Max i can make stable is 3266 fast settings. Anything above that needs 60ohm procODT to boot but can never make it stable... Ive a 3200c14 bdie with a 2600X... I spent days.... I gave up.
And with last bios it no longer boosts to 4.25 all cores in some synthetic bechmarks, like it used to.
Its just a limit in this board or it is just weird and requires a tottally different configuration...

 

[mongoled]

Who believes that we will see any difference in our memory overclocks with the new Ryzen 3000 series ??

I for one believe that the memory overclocking of our boards will stay abysmal.

As my RAM is the 'best' RAM available from the best bin then there should really be no reason that it cannot be used as per its official spec, i.e. 3600mhz CL15

If the memory overclock stays abysmal then its safe to say that we were sold turkeys for flagship motherboards.

Considering that our flagship motherboards have seen no sign of any bios that supports Ryzen 3000 (the beta bios that existed was pulled).

I am hoping that the reason is not to what I have alluded to above, i.e. the **** has hit the fan when the MSI technicians have recognised that they CANNOT get this 'flagship' motherboard to run RAM at anything consistently above 3333mhz.

 

[FJSAMA]

We can see with current zen2 on older Motherboards that the most limiting factor wasnt mobos but the imc, in general. But..
Lets see if with firmware Update of new agesa can help this board because i rly think msi screwed up smthg in bios or dunno.
This board is definitely limiting RAM oc even with b-die and 2000 cpus. Its a pain to make anything stable above 3200. 3333+ is kinda impossible. Tested in multiple bios.
Its a shame.

 

[mongoled]

^^^ translated

We can see with current zen2 on older Motherboards that the most limiting factor wasnt mobos but the imc, in general. But..
Lets see if with firmware Update of new agesa can help this board because i rly think msi screwed up smthg in bios or dunno.
This board is definitely limiting RAM oc even with b-die and 2000 cpus. Its a pain to make anything stable above 3200. 3333+ is kinda impossible. Tested in multiple bios.
Its a shame.



Exactly the same sentiments, my sig says 3333mhz but really 3200mhz is rock stable across all the stress testing ive done.

 

[FJSAMA]

Oh sorry. Seems like forum is having an issue when posting using a mobile device.

 

[mongoled]

Couldnt wait for others to properly test hahahahaha,

So I purchased a 3600X and hopefully, by the time it arrives, MSI with have released some form of BIOS we can use!

 

[mongoled]

BETA BIOS incoming ...........

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM



Arghhhhh

spoke to soon

Says

File not found."

 

[IceT]

I would love to see if anyone has any luck with a 3900x on this board, i might just use it with the processor upgrade and good cooling.

 

[Ekst4zy]

Couldnt wait for others to properly test hahahahaha,

So I purchased a 3600X and hopefully, by the time it arrives, MSI with have released some form of BIOS we can use!

Keep us updated!

I believe the BIOS is out now?

I'm hoping to pair this mobo with R5 3600 and Trident Z RGB DDR4 3600 CL18.

I'm curious to see if 3rd gen CPU will allow to push the memory further or not

 

[phillyd]

Anyone else have issues where it takes a long time between hitting the power button and windows starting to load? I've set my boot device as the first one, but it still takes like 30-45 seconds to get to the bios message and then load windows.

I just flashed the bios to the newest stable version and nothing changed. I'm using a 960 Evo m2 SSD

 

[mongoled]

Anyone else have issues where it takes a long time between hitting the power button and windows starting to load? I've set my boot device as the first one, but it still takes like 30-45 seconds to get to the bios message and then load windows.

I just flashed the bios to the newest stable version and nothing changed. I'm using a 960 Evo m2 SSD

I should have my CPU tomorrow and will report back!

 

[mongoled]

Just a heads up.....

Here as in image of the mating between the EK full motherboard waterblock and my 2600x after around a year of being under the block.


Im wondering if this will be good for the IHS of the new 3000 CPU's.


Anybody have any comment/experiences regards if the 3000 series IHS are concave/convex ??


Thanks


** EDIT **


Here is a quick and dirty image showing clearly where the IHS and head mate and what they cover

 

[mongoled]

Anyone else have issues where it takes a long time between hitting the power button and windows starting to load? I've set my boot device as the first one, but it still takes like 30-45 seconds to get to the bios message and then load windows.

I just flashed the bios to the newest stable version and nothing changed. I'm using a 960 Evo m2 SSD

Go to the section where it say 'PCI Subsystem Settings' go in there and set the first 3 settings to GEN2.


Tell me if you see a difference.

 

[mongoled]

The quick low down for my setup,


not so good news first


1/ Plagued with the WHEA errors. Windows wouldnt load with my 780 unless I set the first 3 settings in 'PCI Subsystem Settings' to GEN2. I have seen errors also with my 840 Pro plugged into the SATA slots. Im guesssing these are also on the PCIe bus.



2/ Sometimes I cant boot from the 840 Pro. Seems like the SATA ports 3/4/5/6 fail to intialise on post, as you hit the BIOS and they cannot be seen. Have to either power down or reboot a couple of time. Fortuntely have not seen such issues with the 960 EVO


Moving the 840 Pro to SATA ports 1 or 2 is OK



3/ Not common just to this mobo but PBO settings do not take effect, neither does the fsb overclocking.


the good news


1/ Yay! My RAM can run at its rated settings and more






2/ Happy with how the boost algorithm is working with my custom WC loop.


Using prime95, latest version, blend. I see heavy AVX2 workloads at around 4075-4100 all core clock, cpu temp is 85C.


Other not so intense workloads im seeing 4200mhz all core clock, with temps around 65-70C.


3/ Also seeing 4.4Ghz single core boost clocks, its usually toying between 4375-4400mhz, im using the CPU-Z single core benchmark to test but it jumps from core to core and when it jumps frequency can drop momentarily to 4300mhz but then on the same core and boost back up.



Cinebench r15 is 1640/204 (not running with priority set to max).


Still checking what works and what does not, hoping that a BIOS is made available that allows certain features to work.

 

[motoray]

Doesn't look like a lot of people are making the jump on these "old" x370 boards, But i threw a 3700x in it for fun. Figured i would let you guys know it works awesome with some 3600mhz ram. Zero functional issues so far. Temps are better than my 1700. With everything stock and ram set to 3600mhz and many programs running in the background still got a cinebench of 2124. That is as far as i have played with anything.

One note if you have windows in Performance power plan voltages are quite high... its strange but these chips need windows to be in balanced plan then everything does what its supposed to. Probably just a bug that needs to be ironed out.

That and the new bios sucks. No longer allows making nice fan profiles, which is quite annoying (unless i am missing something). So my pump and fans seem to swing all over the place with the tiniest bit of load.