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Sadly Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix is compatible only with Asus because of I/O ports, if you flash there any other BIOS you will definitely loose DP and HDMi ports, its okay if you are running single monitor but if you are on two monitors with DP then its pita to sort it

Yes I have Matrix BIOS on Q switch and on P BIOS I have XOC BIOS, with both BIOS OC is pretty much same, in benchmarks I use 2205MHz or 2220MHz OC profile, for gaming 2160-2175MHz OC profile, for rendering 2070-2085MHz

Are you sure you have A chip or it is non A chip, can you check that in GPU-Z? Can you post what errors did you get when you are tried to flash with NvFlash?

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura
Hi Jura,

I connect to monitors actually i was waiting for any disconnect but the good points there is no issue at the beginning the 2nd monitor always goes off then i just replace the place for the DP for both monitors and its simply works perfectly, no idea why its count as that but anyhow they are fine, That great i love the Matrix cards its something Unique!, for gaming its reached to 2160 not more than this you are lucky to get extra mhz for example i for Asus 1000w playing Call of duty GPU 147+ memory clock 1270 or 1250+ power limit all 100+ the temp 51 to 55 max temp power draw from 380 till 480 maximum power that the maximum i thinks any cards can reached with 2x8 pins connectors + PCie as i read from the comments and sercaching for the info , mine is A chip yes i will post the error but what i want to know if i shift between the mode the pc and card should be off or i can change while its On?

( Edit here after apply maximum power its showing 2160 Mhz - 8250 1.075 v temp 51- 55)

last thing because of high power draw and heating there was a coil whine sound but not too high very low sound, now after cooling up and keep the fans 100% to keep the water temp down it's much better. i will post the error message when i will try to flash it again!

thanks a lot for the info i really appreciate it.
 

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How much would an Asus Strix 2080ti used be worth if I sold it?
If you check ebay.com - around $900-$1100...if it has still warranty on it - even more - prices are crazy these days...

You could sell it - but I would estimate you would need to wait at least 2-3 month for something decent to replace it...

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Hi, All
I`m new owner of MSI RTX 2080 Ti VENTUS OC with Alphacool Eiswolf 240 GPX Pro RTX 2080/2080Ti - Black M02 cooling system on top.
And after some days of testing it I am looking for OC BIOS (with higher powerlimit) for this card model. Could someone help me to find the right one?
Thank you.
Well - this card uses the reference PCB - so the Galax/KFA2 380W from page one should be the right one - if you can flash it - see important note fist page of this thread...
Otherwise you might need to use a EEPROM-Programmer or do a shunt mod which needs some soldering…

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Hey everyone,
I have a 2080TI Founders Card and am looking to flash. I tried it the other day and ended up bailing because I didnt know enough. The flashing utility was asking about firmware versions and I have no idea what options to use. My card has an EK water block on it and im looking to get the most performance out of the card.
Your best bet is IMHO the Galax/KFA2 Bios from page one with 380W power limit. You need to use the patched Flash Tool for NVidia FE.

Just follow the step-by-step guide on page one. Don't forget to make an backup of your BIOS - just in case...;)

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The problem with a 5820K is just that many CPU reviews that use a 2080 Ti show a massive difference in average and 99th percentiles with just different CPU. Comparing a 7700K to a 10900K is a way bigger FPS difference then any overclock on a GPU itself will give you.

I don't really understand how it works, I mean even a 9900K which I don't consider a bottleneck often lags way behind a 10900K/59xx AMD CPU in many reviews and I personally went from a 9900K to a 10900KF and saw a pretty sizable increase in minimum FPS (not so much average tho).

It will of course have a benefit to OC the GPU but I'd focus on CPU and RAM first. Then GPU with a 5820K setup. More profit to be had there.

For the Ventus OC BIOS question the KFA2/Galax BIOS would be fine. What you can also try is the EVGA FTW3 ULTRA BIOS. It has better fan control with lower minimum percentage (22% vs 34%) in case the KFA2 one had loud fans on idle with 34%.

It does have different port configuration for HDMI/DP so you might lose a port here and there. It does work fine on my reference Gainward Phantom with all ports enabled.
 

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Well - this card uses the reference PCB - so the Galax/KFA2 380W from page one should be the right one - if you can flash it - see important note fist page of this thread...
Otherwise you might need to use a EEPROM-Programmer or do a power mod which needs some soldering…
Thanks for advise. But I don`t think about power mod is needed. 2x8 pins gives to card 150Wx2 + 75W gives PCIe power line. Looks like should be enough for 380W PL. :)
 

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Thanks for advise. But I don`t think about power mod is needed. 2x8 pins gives to card 150Wx2 + 75W gives PCIe power line. Looks like should be enough for 380W PL. :)
Sorry my mistake – I meant “shunt mod”…
…and that has “nothing” to do with the power input from your PSU or your mobo…
2080 Ti - Working Shunt Mod

And I wouldn’t advise it either if you are able to flash the 380W BIOS.
But some newer GPUs with newer XUSB FW Version ID can’t be flashed using flash tool – see note on page one…

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Your best bet is IMHO the Galax/KFA2 Bios from page one with 380W power limit. You need to use the patched Flash Tool for NVidia FE.

Just follow the step-by-step guide on page one. Don't forget to make an backup of your BIOS - just in case...;)

Best regards,
Medizinmann
I followed it exactly and i keep getting this:
Code:
C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 --protectoff
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

Setting EEPROM software protect setting...

Remove EEPROM write protect complete.


C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 -6 KFA2RTX2080Ti.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12FAx
  does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12A4).
WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible Board ID's
match the Board ID of the adapter.
  Adapter Board ID:        0049
  Firmware image Board ID: 007E

Please press 'y' to confirm override of PCI Subsystem ID's:
Overriding PCI subsystem ID mismatch

*** WARNING: Overriding the Board ID can be very dangerous. ***
Upgrading to an image with the wrong Board ID can render the video card
unusable.
Overriding the Board ID is only needed for extreme circumstances.
A mismatched Board ID almost always means the wrong firmware image is being
used for the specific video card.

Are you sure you want to continue?
Type "YES" to confirm (all caps):
YES

Overrding Board ID mismatch
Current      - Version:90.02.30.00.05 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12A4
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx
Replace with - Version:90.02.0B.00.A9 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12FA
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx

Update display adapter firmware?
Press 'y' to confirm (any other key to abort):
EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

 XUSB FW component of the input GPU firmware image is imcompatible, please use
 a newer version of GPU firmware image for this product.



BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.


Nothing changed!



ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.

 Nvflash CPU side error Code:2Error Message: Falcon In HALT or STOP state, abort uCode command issuing process.

C:\nvFlash>
 

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Your card must have been made in 2019? Looks like it has the XUSB that started in 2019. None of the BIOS listed are compatible as cards made prior did not have this change. Your only option is to shunt mod, if I'm not mistaken.
 

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Hi Jura,

I connect to monitors actually i was waiting for any disconnect but the good points there is no issue at the beginning the 2nd monitor always goes off then i just replace the place for the DP for both monitors and its simply works perfectly, no idea why its count as that but anyhow they are fine, That great i love the Matrix cards its something Unique!, for gaming its reached to 2160 not more than this you are lucky to get extra mhz for example i for Asus 1000w playing Call of duty GPU 147+ memory clock 1270 or 1250+ power limit all 100+ the temp 51 to 55 max temp power draw from 380 till 480 maximum power that the maximum i thinks any cards can reached with 2x8 pins connectors + PCie as i read from the comments and sercaching for the info , mine is A chip yes i will post the error but what i want to know if i shift between the mode the pc and card should be off or i can change while its On?

( Edit here after apply maximum power its showing 2160 Mhz - 8250 1.075 v temp 51- 55)

last thing because of high power draw and heating there was a coil whine sound but not too high very low sound, now after cooling up and keep the fans 100% to keep the water temp down it's much better. i will post the error message when i will try to flash it again!

thanks a lot for the info i really appreciate it.
Hi there

Matrix BIOS seems is best for Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix, XOC BIOS as well is good just one thing what I dislike on XOC is VRAM is running at full speed and this causes some issues at least in my case

If I have been lucky with my Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix hard to say, I tested 3 of them and my is somewhat middle or silver or bronze sample hahaha, one which I tested that could do 2205MHz easy in gaming with Matrix BIOS, with XOC that GPU would do 2220MHz or 2235MHz but water temperature must be in 16-18°C

For gaming I use just normal +100MHz or +115MHz offset which gaves me 2160-2175MHz or 2175-2190MHz, on VRAM I use offset +700MHz or 800MHz

Stock Matrix BIOS boost to 2070-2085MHz and XOC BIOS boost to 1995MHz I think but don't quote me on that, I didn't run XOC for while

I never tried to switch BIOS on Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix while GPU is powered or during running, I usually switch off PC and switch BIOS

If you are using XOC, set power limit to 50-55% as max, I seen maximum power draw 550W on my Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix

Hope this helps

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If you check ebay.com - around $900-$1100...if it has still warranty on it - even more - prices are crazy these days...

You could sell it - but I would estimate you would need to wait at least 2-3 month for something decent to replace it...

Best regards,
Medizinmann
Those must be inflated. I tried to put my card up on craigslist for 800 and I got zero inquiries. When I put up 2 x 1080s a few years ago they sold in like an hour. I think people realize it would be better to wait and get a 3080. I guess inflated prices on ebay makes sense to find that rare person out there in the world that needs a 2080ti for NVLink?
 

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I followed it exactly and i keep getting this:
Code:
C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 --protectoff
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

Setting EEPROM software protect setting...

Remove EEPROM write protect complete.


C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 -6 KFA2RTX2080Ti.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12FAx
  does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12A4).
WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible Board ID's
match the Board ID of the adapter.
  Adapter Board ID:        0049
  Firmware image Board ID: 007E

Please press 'y' to confirm override of PCI Subsystem ID's:
Overriding PCI subsystem ID mismatch

*** WARNING: Overriding the Board ID can be very dangerous. ***
Upgrading to an image with the wrong Board ID can render the video card
unusable.
Overriding the Board ID is only needed for extreme circumstances.
A mismatched Board ID almost always means the wrong firmware image is being
used for the specific video card.

Are you sure you want to continue?
Type "YES" to confirm (all caps):
YES

Overrding Board ID mismatch
Current      - Version:90.02.30.00.05 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12A4
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx
Replace with - Version:90.02.0B.00.A9 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12FA
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx

Update display adapter firmware?
Press 'y' to confirm (any other key to abort):
EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

XUSB FW component of the input GPU firmware image is imcompatible, please use
a newer version of GPU firmware image for this product.



BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.


Nothing changed!



ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.

Nvflash CPU side error Code:2Error Message: Falcon In HALT or STOP state, abort uCode command issuing process.

C:\nvFlash>


I followed it exactly and i keep getting this:
Code:
C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 --protectoff
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

Setting EEPROM software protect setting...

Remove EEPROM write protect complete.


C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 -6 KFA2RTX2080Ti.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12FAx
  does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12A4).
WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible Board ID's
match the Board ID of the adapter.
  Adapter Board ID:        0049
  Firmware image Board ID: 007E

Please press 'y' to confirm override of PCI Subsystem ID's:
Overriding PCI subsystem ID mismatch

*** WARNING: Overriding the Board ID can be very dangerous. ***
Upgrading to an image with the wrong Board ID can render the video card
unusable.
Overriding the Board ID is only needed for extreme circumstances.
A mismatched Board ID almost always means the wrong firmware image is being
used for the specific video card.

Are you sure you want to continue?
Type "YES" to confirm (all caps):
YES

Overrding Board ID mismatch
Current      - Version:90.02.30.00.05 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12A4
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx
Replace with - Version:90.02.0B.00.A9 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12FA
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx

Update display adapter firmware?
Press 'y' to confirm (any other key to abort):
EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

XUSB FW component of the input GPU firmware image is imcompatible, please use
a newer version of GPU firmware image for this product.



BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.


Nothing changed!



ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.

Nvflash CPU side error Code:2Error Message: Falcon In HALT or STOP state, abort uCode command issuing process.

C:\nvFlash>
I was watching a video of Kingpin on youtube he was running a 2.2Ghz 2080Ti Kingpin in PortRoyal, he scores 10,060 at over 2,200Mhz. Then I realize that my 2080Ti Founders Edition on the stock air cooler is scoring nearly 200 points higher than that. I am getting around 10,230.

My point is, just solder the shunts on your card. Dont use LM. buy some 8 ohm resistors, and go for it! youll gain 40% more juice. So you will have 448 watts available to the card.
 

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I followed it exactly and i keep getting this:
Code:
C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 --protectoff
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

Setting EEPROM software protect setting...

Remove EEPROM write protect complete.


C:\nvFlash>nvflash64 -6 KFA2RTX2080Ti.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti  (10DE,1E07,10DE,12A4) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12FAx
  does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (10DE.12A4).
WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible Board ID's
match the Board ID of the adapter.
  Adapter Board ID:        0049
  Firmware image Board ID: 007E

Please press 'y' to confirm override of PCI Subsystem ID's:
Overriding PCI subsystem ID mismatch

*** WARNING: Overriding the Board ID can be very dangerous. ***
Upgrading to an image with the wrong Board ID can render the video card
unusable.
Overriding the Board ID is only needed for extreme circumstances.
A mismatched Board ID almost always means the wrong firmware image is being
used for the specific video card.

Are you sure you want to continue?
Type "YES" to confirm (all caps):
YES

Overrding Board ID mismatch
Current      - Version:90.02.30.00.05 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12A4
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx
Replace with - Version:90.02.0B.00.A9 ID:10DE:1E07:10DE:12FA
               GPU Board (Normal Boardx

Update display adapter firmware?
Press 'y' to confirm (any other key to abort):
EEPROM ID (9D,7014) : ISSI IS25WP080 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

XUSB FW component of the input GPU firmware image is imcompatible, please use
a newer version of GPU firmware image for this product.



BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.


Nothing changed!



ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.

Nvflash CPU side error Code:2Error Message: Falcon In HALT or STOP state, abort uCode command issuing process.

C:\nvFlash>
Did you use the patched Flash Tool - I mean the one for the NVidia FE !

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Those must be inflated. I tried to put my card up on craigslist for 800 and I got zero inquiries. When I put up 2 x 1080s a few years ago they sold in like an hour. I think people realize it would be better to wait and get a 3080. I guess inflated prices on ebay makes sense to find that rare person out there in the world that needs a 2080ti for NVLink?
Of course they are inflated - and nobody in their right mind should buy any GPU right now, if he/she can void it - and I don't know if you can really sell for these inflated prices - but if you are a little under these - like $800-$700 - I am pretty sure you will sell it.

You might need a few days…

I mean – look around in many places 2080 Ti are sold out – for crazy prices...
...and when AMD can't deliver some volume with their 6800/600XT/6900XT it will worsen even more…

I am also pretty sure the situation might/will change after Xmas though…

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Of course they are inflated - and nobody in their right mind should buy any GPU right now, if he/she can void it - and I don't know if you can really sell for these inflated prices - but if you are a little under these - like $800-$700 - I am pretty sure you will sell it.

You might need a few days…

I mean – look around in many places 2080 Ti are sold out – for crazy prices...
...and when AMD can't deliver some volume with their 6800/600XT/6900XT it will worsen even more…

I am also pretty sure the situation might/will change after Xmas though…

Best regards,
Medizinmann
What do you mean no one in their right mind would buy a video card now? You mean for the 2000 series or you also mean for the 3000 series and the new AMD ones? Is it because since there is now real competition it's best to wait to see Nvidia's quick response with the 3080ti? The fact that there is so low quantities usually is a sign they are holding back for a reason no?
 

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What do you mean no one in their right mind would buy a video card now? You mean for the 2000 series or you also mean for the 3000 series and the new AMD ones? Is it because since there is now real competition it's best to wait to see Nvidia's quick response with the 3080ti? The fact that there is so low quantities usually is a sign they are holding back for a reason no?
The Nvidia 3000 series (and AMD's new 6000 series launching tomorrow at the time of writing this) will be completely unobtainable due to high demand and low stock. Any of them that do show up for sale anywhere online within the next 6 months will be price gouged to nearly double the actual MSRP price. On the other side it would be stupid to buy anything from the 2000 series right now either unless you get a really good deal somewhere. Like < $500 for a 2080 Ti deal. The stock for the new cards should normalize in a couple months and when it does all older cards are obsolete and likely the price will tank hard once the new cards are easy to buy at MSRP prices commonly. This is exactly how it's happened for the past 5-7 Nvidia/AMD GPU launches. No one with a logical brain should be buying cards right now old or new. Just wait a couple months for everything to settle down then buy one. The marketplace globally on video cards is always in crazy flux right around a new GPU launch for used and new cards.
 

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I was watching a video of Kingpin on youtube he was running a 2.2Ghz 2080Ti Kingpin in PortRoyal, he scores 10,060 at over 2,200Mhz. Then I realize that my 2080Ti Founders Edition on the stock air cooler is scoring nearly 200 points higher than that. I am getting around 10,230.

My point is, just solder the shunts on your card. Dont use LM. buy some 8 ohm resistors, and go for it! youll gain 40% more juice. So you will have 448 watts available to the card.
Well - not everybody is into soldering...and it isn't really necessary if you can flash a BIOS with higher Power Budget.

I can hit 2145 Mhz and up to 397W on the KFA2/Galax BIOS...

But – yes – if he can’t – he can resort to this and solder resistors on it.

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What do you mean no one in their right mind would buy a video card now? You mean for the 2000 series or you also mean for the 3000 series and the new AMD ones? Is it because since there is now real competition it's best to wait to see Nvidia's quick response with the 3080ti? The fact that there is so low quantities usually is a sign they are holding back for a reason no?
As user kithylin already wrote...

It isn't a good time to buy any GPU at all - if you can avoid it. If you are lucky and able to get one of the new GPUs (either NVidia Ampere or AMD RDNA 2) at MSRP - go for it, but your chances are slim to none and I wouldn't pay inflated scalper-prices - if I can avoid it...

...the other thing are the Early Adopters Pains...for the new GPUs...i.e problems with drivers CAPS etc.

And of course - I wouldn’t buy "old tech"(i.e. RTX 2080Ti) for much to high inflated prices...so best advice is to wait till everything normalizes - maybe sometime in the middle to the end of Q1/2021 or even later - depending on the supply chain...

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Also the other thing that will lead to prices on "older" / previous generation hardware to drop a lot is everyone flooding the market with used video cards over the next couple months once the supply of the new ones becomes common and normal. Most people try to get some money back out of their old hardware to recoup the investment from the upgrade. Most used video cards made within the past 4 years will probably drop in price over the next 6-8 months due to this. It's standard market economics. High supply = low prices. That used video card you see today for $500 (I'm just theorizing as an example) might be $400 or $350 in 6 months for example. And then if you buy last gen's used hardware for $500 today and 6 months from now the new cards that are +50% faster for $400 become commonplace for sale and you'll wish you had waited to buy that instead then you'll be stuck with buyer's remorse.

This is the same cycle every time a new video card is released. New cards come out. No one can buy em for 6-8 months. Then they're common. Then all the people that waited start upgrading and dump their old cards on ebay, etc. It's been happening with new video card releases since the Geforce 6000 days.
 

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Also the other thing that will lead to prices on "older" / previous generation hardware to drop a lot is everyone flooding the market with used video cards over the next couple months once the supply of the new ones becomes common and normal. Most people try to get some money back out of their old hardware to recoup the investment from the upgrade. Most used video cards made within the past 4 years will probably drop in price over the next 6-8 months due to this. It's standard market economics. High supply = low prices. That used video card you see today for $500 (I'm just theorizing as an example) might be $400 or $350 in 6 months for example. And then if you buy last gen's used hardware for $500 today and 6 months from now the new cards that are +50% faster for $400 become commonplace for sale and you'll wish you had waited to buy that instead then you'll be stuck with buyer's remorse.

This is the same cycle every time a new video card is released. New cards come out. No one can buy em for 6-8 months. Then they're common. Then all the people that waited start upgrading and dump their old cards on ebay, etc. It's been happening with new video card releases since the Geforce 6000 days.
Ah...Damn a place by me had a the 3090 FTW for 1,800 the other day. I should have bought it and sold my 2080ti before it does tank. The guy at the store told me to wait because Nvidia is going to release a 3080ti that will be almost as powerful for like 800 less. Idk. I do video editing work and the extra cuda cores coulda helped probably.
 
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