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True, but when you consider that it costs $300 more than last generation's "fastest card", which cost $500 more than the "fastest card" the generation before that... It's rather expensive.

And 114% more expensive than a 3080 for (hopefully) ~20% more performance? That's REALLY bad no matter how you spin it.

If you're someone who has been dropping a grand or more on the Titan cards since 2013, then $1500 ain't no thang for you. Hell, compared to the Titan RTX at $2500, the 3090 is an absolute steal. But if the 3090 is indeed the spiritual successor to the "Titan" cards, then it's extremely weird that they dropped the Titan moniker while simultaneously dropping the price. They're not exactly marketing it as a "prosumer" or professional/non-gaming card either.



So you're suggesting that folks who are now unfortunately unemployed due to "COVID-19" should buy a 3090 because the government is giving them money? Fantastic financial advice!
Missing the point here. The point isn't that people should buy the 3090 with extra free money from the government...my point is : why wouldn't they? I know a few people who bought new cars with their unemployment money. It's not that the money wouldn't be better saved, but you should know by now the story of Americans and money - easy come, easy go.

Yes, the 3090 is a bad value if you're thinking purely in terms of price/performance. But people who buy the 3090 aren't under the impression they're getting the best deal, they are buying it because they want the best card, and that's why I'll be buying one.
 

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is it worth to replace 2080ti with 3080 ?
Not really. I mean, yeah, there's an assumed performance gain there. I just feel that no matter what point you bought a 2080Ti, it's still a good card. I would say just enjoy what you can out of the 2080Ti and wait until a 40 series card comes out. Unless you have money to throw away and want the latest and greatest, then by all means get the 3080.
 

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Iv'e been slowly getting back into gaming on my pc and my 1060 6GB is wanting to be replaced. I feel the pull of the Zotac 3080.
I only have a 1080p 60htz monitor for now so not planning to move from 1080p yet.
Do you think i will be limited much with a B350 board and a Ryzen 1600?

I'm pretty excited to see real benchmarks, whens the embargo up?
 

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So overall 20 - 30% performance uplift in 4K vs the 2080Ti. Impressive but honestly if you are a 2080Ti owner you still have a very capable graphics card. I was going to cancel my Asus TUF pre order, because a) I don't really need it and b) it is ugly in my opinion. I offered it to one of my friends that missed the Amazon and BandH pre orders of last week for what I paid and he took it. But for now the 2080Ti will still serve me right.

I will wait and see what AMD or if a 3080Super or Ti comes out.
 

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So overall 20 - 30% performance uplift in 4K vs the 2080Ti. Impressive but honestly if you are a 2080Ti owner you still have a very capable graphics card. I was going to cancel my Asus TUF pre order, because a) I don't really need it and b) it is ugly in my opinion. I offered it to one of my friends that missed the Amazon and BandH pre orders of last week for what I paid and he took it. But for now the 2080Ti will still serve me right.

I will wait and see what AMD or if a 3080Super or Ti comes out.
Yeah, makes total sense if you have a 2080ti. For me with a 980ti, this will be a yuuuuuuge improvement for me :)
 

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Yeah, makes total sense if you have a 2080ti. For me with a 980ti, this will be a yuuuuuuge improvement for me :)
You will get a huge increase. I really miss my old 980Ti, honestly it was my favorite cards.
 

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Let me remind everyone;

2080 Ti Reference PCB - $99 Asetek 280mm AIO + $25 NZXT G12 Adapter + 2x 120mm Fans PWM $25 = $150
Galax XOC BIOS and Curve Editor 2175MHz and +1200 Memory

Time Spy DX12 1440p
2080 Ti FE 1635MHz Stock Boost = 13.600 Graphics Score
2080 Ti 2175MHz Manual OC = 17.635 Graphics Score (+29.7%)
3080 FE 1710MHz Stock Boost = 17.800 Graphics Score (+0.9%)

3080 is roughly 0-10% faster depending on OC and which game and resolution, so far I've seen 4K+RT results up to 15%, that's where it will shine.

For $699 it's good ut not what we hoped for, and 3090 is just 20% faster meaning this 0-10% will be 20-30%, not even close to what we got going from Pascal to Turing, which was 50%. GeForce 30 series is really disappointing, but I'm very likely swapping out my Ti for 3080 anyway, 15% 4K+RT performance is something at least, plus HDMI 2.1.
 

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Without unlocked/higher limit BIOSes 30 series will look really not that exciting compared to the heavy OCEd RTX 2080 ti and the question is if there will be any unlocked BIOSes available. At the 1440p it's underwhelming, to say the least.
 

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Comparing crazily OCd 2080Ti to stock 3080 doesn't look too good but as soon as we get high power limit bioses for 3080 I'm quite confident the diffrence will be back to 20-25% range.
That is not "crazily OCd", that's regular overclocking with any AIO or Water block, if it throttles or not is up to the BIOS, if you want to go crazy you use 1.125V and 2205MHz.
 

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Without unlocked/higher limit BIOSes 30 series will look really not that exciting compared to the heavy OCEd RTX 2080 ti and the question is if there will be any unlocked BIOSes available. At the 1440p it's underwhelming, to say the least.
Yes, this is true, we have no idea if 30 series will get BIOS flashing, most LN2 cards and BIOSes will be avilable for 3090 cards, not 3080.
All 2x8-Pin cards are running max 375W, regular NVIDIA Reference PCB 2x8-Pin runs 320W stock and max 109% 350W while NVIDIA Custom PCB FE 1x12-Pin runs 320W stock and 370W max.
RTX 2080 Ti with XOC BIOS and great cooling such as the biggest triple fan air cooled cards, AIO (NZXT G12) and Water blocked cards with highest overclock will get extremely close to an overclocked 375W max 2x8-Pin 3080, we're talking about a few %, won't be noticeable in games at all, literally something like 130 to 134 FPS as an example. And 3090 is not much better, it's 20% faster which should bring it up to maybe 20-25% at 370W, 130 to 160 FPS (22.5%) but costs $800 more than a 3080, I would have loved 3090 at $1199, but $300 above that for the cheapest 2x8-Pin models is a big no no, buying a 3090 without 3x8-Pin is such a mistake, paying that much for a very limited card when it comes to overclocking, 350W stock and 370W max power limit, 20 extra watt will barely get you any overclocking, so only 3x8-Pin cards with higher power limits of 450+ will produce some worthwhile overclocking.

I will still get 3080 because of slight improvement in RTX games (up to 15% over 2080 Ti overclocked), but I have no rush at all to do it, might take months before we have any actual stock at retailers, and by that point we have black friday coming, could maybe get a 3080 custom PCB 3x8-Pin for 2x8-Pin price.

This also means that 2080 Ti still holds their value very well, new 3080s will be very hard to find and cost at least €800 around Europe, meaning if you want similar performance without waiting you can just get a 2080 Ti for €699 used (with a few months store warranty left). I'd say minimum value of the worst Ti is €599, best value €749 for the most premium models, but somewhere in between for the rest, I'm definitely not selling my Ti for less than €649, it performs near identical (17.635 Time Spy Graphics Score compared to 3080 at 17.800).
 

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So I called the biggest computerparts seller in Norway today, asking if they could give out info about how many of each card they have received in stock for tomorrows release.

They would not, they did not have this info they said, there is going to be an info meeting for the staff tomorrow morning,

Now I asked them if they had ever seen such an anticipated launch, and they said it was like this every release..

Is that true ?

Was the 2080/ti release this tense/sought after ??

For me it seems tomorrow is going to be black thursday x10
 

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Was the 2080/ti release this tense/sought after ??
Yes, 2080 release was a disaster, it took up to 2 months for Custom PCBs to arrive, I ordered my card about an hour after they went live and got my card after 30 days and I was one of the first. It was insane, and everything is pointing to the same thing happening now, most people won't be able to get cards for several weeks minimum. Anyone who panic sold their Ti's a week or two ago might have to be without a gaming GPU for up to 90 more days. And then they learn that their 2080 Ti overclocked was almost as fast. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Anyone who panic sold their Ti's a week or two ago might have to be without a gaming GPU for up to 90 more days. And then they learn that their 2080 Ti overclocked was almost as fast. :ROFLMAO:
Yeah, all the latest used 2080ti ads now refer to how little faster the 3080 is..

Im in no hurry to get the new card, im only in a hurry to get it at release retail price..
 

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Let me remind everyone;

2080 Ti Reference PCB - $99 Asetek 280mm AIO + $25 NZXT G12 Adapter + 2x 120mm Fans PWM $25 = $150
Galax XOC BIOS and Curve Editor 2175MHz and +1200 Memory

Time Spy DX12 1440p
2080 Ti FE 1635MHz Stock Boost = 13.600 Graphics Score
2080 Ti 2175MHz Manual OC = 17.635 Graphics Score (+29.7%)
3080 FE 1710MHz Stock Boost = 17.800 Graphics Score (+0.9%)

3080 is roughly 0-10% faster depending on OC and which game and resolution, so far I've seen 4K+RT results up to 15%, that's where it will shine.

For $699 it's good ut not what we hoped for, and 3090 is just 20% faster meaning this 0-10% will be 20-30%, not even close to what we got going from Pascal to Turing, which was 50%. GeForce 30 series is really disappointing, but I'm very likely swapping out my Ti for 3080 anyway, 15% 4K+RT performance is something at least, plus HDMI 2.1.
What Asetek 280mm AIOs are for $99? I want to mount the G12 and a 240mm-280mm AIO on my Zotac AMP 2080ti. Theres a sale on Corsair H110 for $100 CAD which is around $75USD but i'm afraid of buying such an old stock AIO and having leaks or degraded cooling performance because its been sitting on a shelf for 5+ years.
 

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Iv'e been slowly getting back into gaming on my pc and my 1060 6GB is wanting to be replaced. I feel the pull of the Zotac 3080.
I only have a 1080p 60htz monitor for now so not planning to move from 1080p yet.
Do you think i will be limited much with a B350 board and a Ryzen 1600?

I'm pretty excited to see real benchmarks, whens the embargo up?
The 3080 is not for you as you'd be bottlenecked in several places. Instead you could use the price difference to balance out your system.
 

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Will my 5930k be bottle necked by this @ 1440p? also may move to triples in the future for my sim racing. Hard to find info about this old and obscure chip.
 

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Will my 5930k be bottle necked by this @ 1440p? also may move to triples in the future for my sim racing. Hard to find info about this old and obscure chip.
From what I've seen in reviews it will in some games.
 
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I am using a [redacted] CPU. We will call it enicaR and cooling it via the water in Lake Michigan. Think it will bottleneck at 3440 x 1440?
 
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