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I'm straight up disappointed. No GP100, no HBM2 and a higher price tag that the previous TX... I'll wait for the benchmarks, but I'll probably be passing on this one. At an msrp like that, I'd expect it to be 1.5k EUR over here at the minimum.
 

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imagine the AUD then... $2000 or thereabouts.
 

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I'm straight up disappointed. No GP100, no HBM2 and a higher price tag that the previous TX... I'll wait for the benchmarks, but I'll probably be passing on this one. At an msrp like that, I'd expect it to be 1.5k EUR over here at the minimum.
It was something I expected to see happen this year, but not August 2nd. That was waaaaaaay sooner than I expected.

I'm more concerned with how GTX 1080 owners must be feeling right now, spending so much money on the GTX 1080 which was almost Titan X money in the first place for a midrange die, only for this monster to come along so soon after. Especially when you consider how long it was before people actually got hold of the GTX 1080 and SLI HB Bridge due to low stocks.

This is probably the biggest stab in the back I've ever seen from Nvidia. 6months later sure, but 2months? Man that's gotta hurt....
 

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Why would any half intelligent person purchase computer components solely based on it being the best and not around what fits their needs.

If I was a 1080 owner I would care less to what new card came out so long as I was still hitting my intended frame rates based on the research I would have done before purchasing a high end component.

I don't really think 1080 owners care about new titan x release, nor should they.
 

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It was something I expected to see happen this year, but not August 2nd. That was waaaaaaay sooner than I expected.

I'm more concerned with how GTX 1080 owners must be feeling right now, spending so much money on the GTX 1080 which was almost Titan X money in the first place for a midrange die, only for this monster to come along so soon after. Especially when you consider how long it was before people actually got hold of the GTX 1080 and SLI HB Bridge due to low stocks.

This is probably the biggest stab in the back I've ever seen from Nvidia. 6months later sure, but 2months? Man that's gotta hurt....
From the looks of it, the 1080 still has better price to performance. I've seen claims that the TX Pascal is supposed to be ~60% faster than the old TX, which puts it around the ~25-30% faster than 1080, but it almost costs 2x as much.
 

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I'm straight up disappointed. No GP100, no HBM2 and a higher price tag that the previous TX... I'll wait for the benchmarks, but I'll probably be passing on this one. At an msrp like that, I'd expect it to be 1.5k EUR over here at the minimum.
I have a theory.

I'm sure I read that Nvidia pushed Volta back to 2018. So I think they're stretching Pascal out over two years. Like this.

They release flagship 1080 based on GP104 (as they have done already). But now the 1080 outperforms Titan X, so to rectify the situation they release new Titan X based on GP102 with GDDR5X memory.

NEXT YEAR, 2017: Is when they release the GP100 with HBM2 positioned above Titan X (or replacing it) and release a slightly cut down GP100 as 1080Ti. Both with performance improvements over the 2016 releases.

Just a theory.
 

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From the looks of it, the 1080 still has better price to performance. I've seen claims that the TX Pascal is supposed to be ~60% faster than the old TX, which puts it around the ~25-30% faster than 1080, but it almost costs 2x as much.
Yes agree. For that price I can get 2x 1080 GTX. The 1080 has a better price/performance ratio. Unless you are running 4k and wanting over 60fps, a 1080 is a better bet.
 

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oh god.. i have soooo many pointless video cards now.
After i upgrade to these new titans.. i'll have 8! gtx 1080s and 7 Titan X... anyone looking to buy some cards
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I would if I am sure 7 of such cards would run in a single mobo having 7 PCIe slots (with watercooling the cards can be converted to single-slot)
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Anyway, in my opinion the just-announced Titan X is not the last one in the Pascal line, it has 250 W TDP and DDR5 RAM while the P100 for computing has 300 W TDP and HBM2 memory. One can thus expect a similar Titan XXL with the TDP of 300 W, HBM2 memory and with killing heart-attack price
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oh god.. i have soooo many pointless video cards now.
After i upgrade to these new titans.. i'll have 8! gtx 1080s and 7 Titan X...

anyone looking to buy some cards
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Indeed i am
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It was something I expected to see happen this year, but not August 2nd. That was waaaaaaay sooner than I expected.

I'm more concerned with how GTX 1080 owners must be feeling right now, spending so much money on the GTX 1080 which was almost Titan X money in the first place for a midrange die, only for this monster to come along so soon after. Especially when you consider how long it was before people actually got hold of the GTX 1080 and SLI HB Bridge due to low stocks.

This is probably the biggest stab in the back I've ever seen from Nvidia. 6months later sure, but 2months? Man that's gotta hurt....
Why would they feel bad? That card is twice the price of a GTX 1080 for 30% more performance.
 

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oh god.. i have soooo many pointless video cards now.
After i upgrade to these new titans.. i'll have 8! gtx 1080s and 7 Titan X...

anyone looking to buy some cards
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oh pooo.. i can' t post anything in the market till i have 35 rep.. hrmm.. i wonder what is needed to setup a selling account on amazon
 

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Why would they feel bad? That card is twice the price of a GTX 1080 for 30% more performance.
Depends on whether one overclocks or not. I suspect that the new Titan X would be loaded, it will have the overclockability of a founder's edition card. So if you overclock you would get it quite a lot higher than that as compared to a GTX 1080. For example if you reach 2-2.1 GHz (which is very possible for a founder edtion's card), you get at least 30% on top of its initial performance. That totals to around 70% above GTX 1080.

You can say that you can overclock GTX 1080 too. But due to the high starting clocks and aggressive adaptive overclocking you don't actually net more than 10% additional performance. If all of the above are true, you can have +50-60% of greater performance as compared to GTX 1080 merely by overclocking your Titan X. This in turn would make Titan X (overclocked) the first 4K card (minimum FPS to most games maxed @ 4K > 50FPS)

Can't say I'm not excited, what I can say is that I'll probably not be able to justify that cost to me (or my wife).
 

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Depends on whether one overclocks or not. I suspect that the new Titan X would be loaded, it will have the overclockability of a founder's edition card. So if you overclock you would get it quite a lot higher than that as compared to a GTX 1080. For example if you reach 2-2.1 GHz (which is very possible for a founder edtion's card), you get at least 30% on top of its initial performance. That totals to around 70% above GTX 1080.

You can say that you can overclock GTX 1080 too. But due to the high starting clocks and aggressive adaptive overclocking you don't actually net more than 10% additional performance. If all of the above are true, you can have +50-60% of greater performance as compared to GTX 1080 merely by overclocking your Titan X. This in turn would make Titan X (overclocked) the first 4K card (minimum FPS to most games maxed @ 4K > 50FPS)

Can't say I'm not excited, what I can say is that I'll probably not be able to justify that cost to me (or my wife).
1417 vs 1607 base clock

So even if they both OC to 2100 on average, then the Titan would still be less than 50% faster. (1.14*1.3)
 

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Depends on whether one overclocks or not. I suspect that the new Titan X would be loaded, it will have the overclockability of a founder's edition card. So if you overclock you would get it quite a lot higher than that as compared to a GTX 1080. For example if you reach 2-2.1 GHz (which is very possible for a founder edtion's card), you get at least 30% on top of its initial performance. That totals to around 70% above GTX 1080.

You can say that you can overclock GTX 1080 too. But due to the high starting clocks and aggressive adaptive overclocking you don't actually net more than 10% additional performance. If all of the above are true, you can have +50-60% of greater performance as compared to GTX 1080 merely by overclocking your Titan X. This in turn would make Titan X (overclocked) the first 4K card (minimum FPS to most games maxed @ 4K > 50FPS)

Can't say I'm not excited, what I can say is that I'll probably not be able to justify that cost to me (or my wife).
Your assuming it will overclock like a 1080. Pretty big assumption. Why in the world would Nvidia neuter the Titan's performance with clock speed out of the box anyways? Doesn't even make sense for them to do that to their flagship.

Anyway these cards are priced very far apart. 700 dollars is a lot for me to spend on a GPU 1200 is unthinkable. It will be cool to see but speaking as a 1080 owner I was never going to buy it even if it launched first.
 

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oh pooo.. i can' t post anything in the market till i have 35 rep.. hrmm.. i wonder what is needed to setup a selling account on amazon
Don't use amazon. I've read about lots of people getting ripped off selling expensive items. Use /r/hardwareswap
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Your assuming it will overclock like a 1080. Pretty big assumption. Why in the world would Nvidia neuter the Titan's performance with clock speed out of the box anyways? Doesn't even make sense for them to do that to their flagship.
Probably to keep it at 250w. But I agree, I don't see it clocking past 2000 like the other cards. Heat and PT will be killer. The FE cooler can't even keep the smaller chips cool.
 

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Why would they feel bad? That card is twice the price of a GTX 1080 for 30% more performance.
If you can actually find one for that price.
 

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20% price increase over previous gen with no actual differences over the previous gen? At least Intel added some cores when they made a totally insane price increase. But I guess that's what you can get away with when you have literally zero competition and the future of multi-GPU is grim...
 
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