oh dear god what the hell happened

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skarm

Discussion Starter · Mar 14, 2009

I installed Red Orchestra this morning since it was on sale and my FPS was getting into the single digits and now I know why:

I didn't change anything since you can't touch the BIOS in pre-built HP computers.

Please try to figure help me figure this out and help me find the problem.

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Comp112

· #2 · Mar 14, 2009

Cool'N'Quiet may be enabled, when your CPU is not being utilized, it lowers your clocks.

EDIT: You said after you installed Red Orchestra? Is that the only game you get low FPS in?

Also, use a program that will utilize your CPU, then run CPU-Z again to see if your clocks go back to normal.

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IntelConvert

· #3 · Mar 14, 2009

cool 'n' quiet is downclocking ur CPU.

i know my CPU goes from 12.5x to 6x multipler when idle. (intel's version of cool n quiet)

as for ur games, eitehr cool n quiet isnt disengaging, or ur mobo, or RAM?

do u have issues in other games?

Biatch

· #4 · Mar 14, 2009

Don't use cool n' quiet.

skarm

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 14, 2009

I don't even know what "cool n' quiet" is and I don't think I've done anything to trigger it since I do not know anything about it nor do I know how to turn it off or on.

How do you check if it's on?

Edit: All my games run horrible now, L4D runs at a blazing 10 FPS when the horde comes.

Comp112

· #6 · Mar 14, 2009

You would have to go into your BIOS to turn it on/off.

simfreak47

· #7 · Mar 14, 2009

Cool 'N Quiet (aka CnQ) is a BIOS setting. Just disable it, and hopefully it'll get rid of your problem

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sgdude

· #8 · Mar 14, 2009

i think its cooLN QUIET, i doubt he can turn it off, its an HP. And there isnt any real reason too turn it off, when u need the power it clocks up, so why waste the electricity when its not doing anything?
IT DOESNT MATTER THOUGH SINCE ITS AN HP SO I DOUBT HE CAN TURN IT OFF!!!!!!

skarm

Discussion Starter · #9 · Mar 14, 2009

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You would have to go into your BIOS to turn it on/off.

It asks me for a password when I attempt to enter the setup so I can't check in there.

Edit: I used to be able to run L4D at 60 frames per second... now I cannot.

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jaybrn1

· #10 · Mar 14, 2009

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I don't even know what "cool n' quiet" is and I don't think I've done anything to trigger it since I do not know anything about it nor do I know how to turn it off or on.

How do you check if it's on?

Edit: All my games run horrible now, L4D runs at a blazing 10 FPS when the horde comes.

You didnt trigger it is automatically turned on once you start playing the game check CPUZ again you will be at your correct speed it does no harm having it on.

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Comp112

· #11 · Mar 14, 2009

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It asks me for a password when I attempt to enter the setup so I can't check in there.

Edit: I used to be able to run L4D at 60 frames per second... now I cannot.

Do they seriously use passwords now to lock your bios? That's BS.

Look, most HP's I have seen should have a jumper on the mobo to disable the password, take that off, and you can get into your BIOS.

NOTE: This is just on a few version of HP's I have worked on in my comp ops class.

EDIT: Meant the BS part to mean: That is BS that they do that, I mean seriously now, locking the settings wasn't enough...?

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skarm

Discussion Starter · #12 · Mar 14, 2009

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You didnt trigger it is automatically turned on once you start playing the game check CPUZ again you will be at your correct speed it does no harm having it on.

It is always at ~1155 MHz regardless of what I am doing.

@ comp112: Can you explain what 'the jumper' is?

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Comp112

· #13 · Mar 14, 2009

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It is always at ~1155 MHz regardless of what I am doing.

@ comp112: Can you explain what 'the jumper' is?

Uh, yeah, let me find a picture of it if I can. Well an example of the jumper.

It is odd that your CPU is stuck at it's current settings, did you try restarting it at the least?

EDIT: These are jumpers, this is NOT your mobo of course, just an example of some jumpers on a mobo.

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skarm

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 14, 2009

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Uh, yeah, let me find a picture of it if I can. Well an example of the jumper.

It is odd that your CPU is stuck at it's current settings, did you try restarting it at the least?

Many times... even tried enabling / disabling TLB to see if that had anything to do with it.

Re-installed ATI drivers...

Then I open up CPU-Z and then I know why.

Edit: And I guess by removing the jumpers it gets cleared?

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IntelConvert

· #15 · Mar 14, 2009

look up what motherboard u have. this will be difficult with HP. it might be in tech specs on their website or ull ahve to read the brand/model off the board. then look for the user manual online and try to find a CMOS reset jumper.

a jumper is just a little plastic piece that goes over 2 pins to connect them. they are used to change settings on many different electrical devices in computers, CMOS on mobo, HDD, CD Drives, etc.

HP might offer BIOS updates on their site

also check for latest drivers for ur chipset, gpu, etc

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Zero4549

· #16 · Mar 14, 2009

Yes removing or changing the position, depending on your mobo, will reset to default or unlock the bios, again depending on the mobo. BTW most jumpers are white and open on the top unlike the blue capped ones in that photo. Either way they are tiny and fit over 2 small pins. Hope this helps

Comp112

· #17 · Mar 14, 2009

Yeah, if the correct jumper is removed, it just disables the password.

Also try clearing your CMOS. Turn off your computer, remove the battery, press the power button, remove the CMOS battery, and wait a few minutes. Put it back in, plug in your computer, and go from there.

That will reset your BIOS.

EDIT: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...ame=c00906137#

Your mobo on the HP site.

IntelConvert

· #18 · Mar 14, 2009

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Yeah, if the correct jumper is removed, it just disables the password.

Also try clearing your CMOS. Turn off your computer, remove the battery, press the power button, remove the CMOS battery, and wait a few minutes. Put it back in, plug in your computer, and go from there.

That will reset your BIOS.

EDIT: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...ame=c00906137#

Your mobo on the HP site.

that cant be his mobo, or we found a problem...

CPU-z says he has a phenom X4, when that mobo u listed only supports up to Athlon X2.

did u put that CPU in yourself or did it come with that?

did u take ur PC to a shop recently where they might have worked on it? maybe thats where the password lock came from.

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mr.derp

· #19 · Mar 14, 2009

The REASONABLE thing to first do it download prime 95 and run it. If doesn't change to the correct 2.3, then he has a problem. Starting off with a cmos clear or jumpers is a bad idea especially if you don't give him very clear step on safely doing it.

Comp112

· #20 · Mar 14, 2009

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that cant be his mobo, or we found a problem...

CPU-z says he has a phenom X4, when that mobo u listed only supports up to Athlon X2.

did u put that CPU in yourself or did it come with that?

did u take ur PC to a shop recently where they might have worked on it? maybe thats where the password lock came from.

Huh, your right, same name though...That's odd...

EDIT: Sorry mate, I gotta go to bed, I will check the thread when I wake up in the morning. It is to early, and I gotta end up early anyway.

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