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In the next 2 weeks I will be updating to S939 and I already have decided on a DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-D mobo but I am looking for the best bang for the buck single core proc. I was wondering out of the Opteron 144, 146 and the A64 3700+ which one would offer the best performance? They are all within the same price range. I want to be able to OC etc.... Which is the best? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">
 

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Opteron in my opinion.<br><br>
But it depends on steppings - see if you can find them out before you buy to compare.
 

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How can I find out what good steppings are for the Opty's?
 

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Try these links for details of stepping performance:<br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/100342-calling-all-3700-sd-owners-past.html?highlight=stepping" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/10...light=stepping</a><br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/faqs/101138-info-what-different-3700-san-diego.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/faqs/101138...san-diego.html</a><br><br>
These are for Sandy 3700+ but the stepping behave similary<br><br>
As for finding out prior to purchase, you might be able to get the retailer to tell you, but I would not hold my breath <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 
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I would go with an opteron, though from what I understand they are all the same core. Take heart in the fact that, either way you go, you wont be disappointed, all those chips overclock extremely well (even moreso with a better stepping)!
 

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The "E4" 3700+ Sandys seem to be doing very well!
 

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So would the 3700+ OC'd to 2.9 and say a Opty 146 OC'd to the same perform about equal or would there be a slight advantage from the Opty?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So would the 3700+ OC'd to 2.9 and say a Opty 146 OC'd to the same perform about equal or would there be a slight advantage from the Opty?</div>
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In all, the performance difference clock for clock should be near identical <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
I would go with what ever is cheeper <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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get the FX-55<br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/../online-deals/122157-deal-fx-55-oem-139-shipped.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/122157-deal-fx-55-oem-139-shipped.html</a>\\
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">get the FX-55<br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/../online-deals/122157-deal-fx-55-oem-139-shipped.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/122157-deal-fx-55-oem-139-shipped.html</a>\\</div>
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I would but I won't have the extra $50. If I had the extra $50 I would get an Opty 165. I am looking for the best bang for the buck under $100. I have been looking on E-Bay too and there might be some pretty good deals there.
 

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proud opteron owner, back then the debate was opteron or sandy but with the new cheap prices i say go with the cheapest they pretty much clock the same and performs the same. but if u are not planning to get the sandy i suggest opteron
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have been looking on E-Bay too and there might be some pretty good deals there.</div>
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At least if you get it off ebay you can get the seller to confirm the stepping <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> then compare it to the FAQ link i gave you before <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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Some of those Opterons OC very high, I seen 1 get to 3.3 GHz (can't remember where at this moment). You're getting one of the best Mobo's for 939 out there, which is good. Take a little time and check the DFI-Street website's "Overclocking Database" and do an advanced search to see which ones are doing well before you buy. Also check out this website's Overclocking Database as well.....<br />
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Edit: Make sure your RAM is compatible with that Mobo as well, it is VERY picky about it's RAM.
 

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What are all the differences between Opteron and Athlon 64?<br />
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For example, if you took an Opteron 148... 2.2GHz clock speed with 1MB L2 cache. That looks almost identical to a 3700+ San Diego. Why are the Opterons more expensive? They don't have L3 cache like Xeons, do they?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">What are all the differences between Opteron and Athlon 64?<br />
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For example, if you took an Opteron 148... 2.2GHz clock speed with 1MB L2 cache. That looks almost identical to a 3700+ San Diego. Why are the Opterons more expensive? They don't have L3 cache like Xeons, do they?</div>

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</div>well, Opterons are made for servers/ worckstations, so they are more stable and very reliable, im gunna get a Dual Core Opty, they are the best for OCing! i would get that! can get to around 2.5ish on stock Vcore!
 

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The Opterons are made from a slightly higher quality silicon compared to the San<br />
Diegos (so I hear). You'll do fine with either. The 3700 Sandy will allow you to use the 11x multiplier unlike the Opty 146.<br />
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The DFI NF4 Ultra D is killer but it can be upgraded with an "Evercool chipset cooler" for about $8.00 (easier to install before mobo goes into case).<br />
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With the mobo, go with quality ram (I recommend GSkill PC4400) and a Big Typhoon cooler like my rig profile. <b>The Power supply must be 480watts or higher</b>,<br />
and I recommend OCZ 520 Powerstream.<br />
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The rig can be built at fairly low cost. gL<img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 

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the 3700 OC nicely, but cant get near the OperOWN! lol, Opty is a better chioce in my opinion
 

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ive got a 3200, 144 and 146 and they opty's are soooooooo much better. they oc higher on stock volta and just run cooler. for me its a no brainer get an opty<br />
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<a href="http://wiki.extremeoverclocking.com/wiki/Opteron_Steppings" target="_blank">opty steppings</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">The Opterons are made from a slightly higher quality silicon compared to the San<br />
Diegos (so I hear). You'll do fine with either. The 3700 Sandy will allow you to use the 11x multiplier unlike the Opty 146.<br />
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The DFI NF4 Ultra D is killer but it can be upgraded with an "Evercool chipset cooler" for about $8.00 (easier to install before mobo goes into case).<br />
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With the mobo, go with quality ram (I recommend GSkill PC4400) and a Big Typhoon cooler like my rig profile. <b>The Power supply must be 480watts or higher</b>,<br />
and I recommend OCZ 520 Powerstream.<br />
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The rig can be built at fairly low cost. gL<img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>I will be using the rest of my stuff from my srrent rig in the DFI mobo. According to the corsair website they are compatible. So all should be good! (crossing fingers) <br />
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Also, do any of you guys who have a DFI board know if a TT Blue Orb II will fit on that board? That is the cooler I want to get but I'm not sure if it will fit. I know a lot of people will tell me I should get a TT Big Typhoon but that is just too big for me.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I will be using the rest of my stuff from my srrent rig in the DFI mobo. According to the corsair website they are compatible. So all should be good! (crossing fingers)<br><br>
Also, do any of you guys who have a DFI board know if a TT Blue Orb II will fit on that board? That is the cooler I want to get but I'm not sure if it will fit. I know a lot of people will tell me I should get a TT Big Typhoon but that is just too big for me.</div>
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I don't see why it wouldn't fit, but I gotta recommend the Big Typhoon if you plan on overclocking. You won't regret it (unless your case is too small for it).<br><br>
I have no experience with this HSF your wanting, but just by looking at the pics on newegg it looks as hard to install as a BT, so why not go with the tried and true?? Read some of Newegg's reviews, many people are stating that it is huge as well, and seems like you may need to remove it to remove your RAM......
 
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