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2022 - War of 140mm Fans.

Also i have finalized my Alderlake Upgrade (Good thing i sold extra stuff)

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I’ve thought about it and looked at different memory options. And I’ve decided I’m going with a DDR4 Alderlake motherboard. Even the best DDR5 memory announced so far has 60% more bandwidth, but also 60% higher latency compared to a DDR4-4000-14 set. For any application that doesn’t require high memory bandwidth (as in…any application where your memory bandwidth is not causing a bottleneck) latency will be more important. So I don’t see the point of paying extra money for new ram that will give me lower performance if the main purpose of my build is gaming.
 

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I’ve thought about it and looked at different memory options. And I’ve decided I’m going with a DDR4 Alderlake motherboard. Even the best DDR5 memory announced so far has 60% more bandwidth, but also 60% higher latency compared to a DDR4-4000-14 set. For any application that doesn’t require high memory bandwidth (as in…any application where your memory bandwidth is not causing a bottleneck) latency will be more important. So I don’t see the point of paying extra money for new ram that will give me lower performance if the main purpose of my build is gaming.
Rumor has it that only low end boards will be DDR4.
 

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MDPC-X also money sinkhole lol. So many nice new colors. Just got friends aluminum grey (got one coming for avaitor cable). Damn nice
 

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Rumor has it that only low end boards will be DDR4.
I’ve seen that from Asus at least so far. Yeah. Figured I’d buy a different brand this time around after using Asus exclusively for over 20 years. If every other brand is doing the same thing, then I’m in trouble and won’t know what to do. Haha. Although boards are generally quite overbuilt for the basic levels of overclocking we’re doing nowadays anyway.
 

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I’ve seen that from Asus at least so far. Yeah. Figured I’d buy a different brand this time around after using Asus exclusively for over 20 years. If every other brand is doing the same thing, then I’m in trouble and won’t know what to do. Haha. Although boards are generally quite overbuilt for the basic levels of overclocking we’re doing nowadays anyway.
MSI has been giving us a lot of smart power stages at the mid range with the Carbon and Unify. Asus charges more at every feature level.
 

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I’ve thought about it and looked at different memory options. And I’ve decided I’m going with a DDR4 Alderlake motherboard. Even the best DDR5 memory announced so far has 60% more bandwidth, but also 60% higher latency compared to a DDR4-4000-14 set. For any application that doesn’t require high memory bandwidth (as in…any application where your memory bandwidth is not causing a bottleneck) latency will be more important. So I don’t see the point of paying extra money for new ram that will give me lower performance if the main purpose of my build is gaming.
Fair point there. I suspect the Strix will have DDR4 variant. Nice talk that keeps us all involved in the hobby.
 

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MSI has been giving us a lot of smart power stages at the mid range with the Carbon and Unify. Asus charges more at every feature level.
Motherboard are very personal. Through work i have tried almost all brands but i still prefer Asus. mainly for its rog bios. I just don't want to learn new bios again so easier i stick with Asus.
 

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Motherboard are very personal. Through work i have tried almost all brands but i still prefer Asus. mainly for its rog bios. I just don't want to learn new bios again so easier i stick with Asus.
I had a Z590 Apex but switched to the Asrock Z590 OC Formula and I’m glad I did. Asus bioses would gain or lose performance with each revision. I wasn’t impressed. AsRock nailed it on release and I never felt compelled to update my bios. I think Asus is having their intern write all the bioses.
 

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I had a Z590 Apex but switched to the Asrock Z590 OC Formula and I’m glad I did. Asus bioses would gain or lose performance with each revision. I wasn’t impressed. AsRock nailed it on release and I never felt compelled to update my bios. I think Asus is having their intern write all the bioses.
What's most important is you are happy with your product lol.
 

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Here are the new chromax fans. Definitely not a fan of the center nipple. The cable is short by default with an extension.

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The prototype from 2019 looks way better in my opinion.

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I recently bought a second hand Sig V2 block for my 10900k. Didn't clean the block :((
On heavy load the cpu seems to be a bit too hot (imo). At around 280w cpu power draw the cpu temps rise to 94c. CPU is not delidded.
Pumpspeed did not really affect cpu temps (1-2c maybe). Water temps max out at 29c

are seems temps normal for the block?
 

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I recently bought a second hand Sig V2 block for my 10900k. Didn't clean the block :((
On heavy load the cpu seems to be a bit too hot (imo). At around 280w cpu power draw the cpu temps rise to 94c. CPU is not delidded.
Pumpspeed did not really affect cpu temps (1-2c maybe). Water temps max out at 29c

are seems temps normal for the block?
I would definitely take it apart and clean the block. It gets clogged very easily.
 

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I recently bought a second hand Sig V2 block for my 10900k. Didn't clean the block :((
On heavy load the cpu seems to be a bit too hot (imo). At around 280w cpu power draw the cpu temps rise to 94c. CPU is not delidded.
Pumpspeed did not really affect cpu temps (1-2c maybe). Water temps max out at 29c

are seems temps normal for the block?
Block is either clogged or you have poor mounting contact. That is way to high for a 10900k. Unless your pushing like 5.4-5.5ghz.

Do yourself a favor. On your next tear down to check and clean the block. Install a real proper flow sensor...... There are so many reasons to have one. One being the ability to see real time flow problems. Id recommend the High flow 2 sensor from aquacomputer.
 
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Block is either clogged or you have poor mounting contact. That is way to high for a 10900k. Unless your pushing like 5.4-5.5ghz.

Do yourself a favor. On your next tear down to check and clean the block. Install a real proper flow sensor...... There are so many reasons to have one. One being the ability to see real time flow problems. Id recommend the High flow 2 sensor from aquacomputer.
I do in fact have a flow sensor ;-) and my cpu is unable to hit 5.4Ghz without at least 1.425v. But a power draw of 285watt is already relatively high, thats with 1.3625v.
 

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Do yourself a favor. On your next tear down to check and clean the block. Install a real proper flow sensor...... There are so many reasons to have one. One being the ability to see real time flow problems. Id recommend the High flow 2 sensor from aquacomputer.

+Rep and post for anyone else on the fence of getting a proper flow sensor. This one is the bees knees and a highly accurate built in temp sensor as well. Less cables to run for this aio sensor. (y)
 
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Block is either clogged or you have poor mounting contact. That is way to high for a 10900k. Unless your pushing like 5.4-5.5ghz.

Do yourself a favor. On your next tear down to check and clean the block. Install a real proper flow sensor...... There are so many reasons to have one. One being the ability to see real time flow problems. Id recommend the High flow 2 sensor from aquacomputer.
Great candidate for future sponsorship by aquacomputer. Don’t send to linus, youtube guys. Send to users here.
 
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