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The VF curve is Intel and won't change - it is a property of the chip. The voltages are fixed. The assignment of VF1-Vf7 and their offsets to multipliers will not change. VF8 voltage and offset are always assigned to the maximum multiplier if that multiplier is above the turbo multiplier, so if you change the maximum multiplier VF8 will follow it.

PPL have reported SP change. I believe this is an Asus thing and may change with BIOS. Maybe someone can correct me here.

You can tune the offsets by limiting the maximum frequency in windows power management or through a tool like Asus AIsuite or Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. Limit the frequency to each frequency on the VF curve and test for stability while varying the offsets.
Nice...

Another question...

If V/F 8 is assign to the 53x or the higher frequency I set, How about Adaptive?

If I have V/F7(5200)=1.360,
Set V/F8 to 5400=1,450 and
Adaptive set to 1,435 (lower than V/F8)

What will be the VID assign to 5300 ?
An interpolation of V/F 7 and V/F 8 or the adaptive?
Or in this case Adaptive is null ?

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Nice...

Another question...

If V/F 8 is assign to the 53x or the higher frequency I set, How about Adaptive?

If I have V/F7(5200)=1.360,
Set V/F8 to 5400=1,450 and
Adaptive set to 1,435 (lower than V/F8)

What will be the VID assign to 5300 ?
An interpolation of V/F 7 and V/F 8 or the adaptive?
Or in this case Adaptive is null ?

tx
From my experience, a linear interpolation, so it will be (VF7+VF8)/2 in this case. So 1.3975
 
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From my experience, a linear interpolation, so it will be (VF7+VF8)/2 in this case. So 1.3975
You mean 1.405 -> (1,36+1,45)/2... right?

And how about Cache rate.
I'm stable 47x...
If I try 48x the system freeze...
Rising VCCIO and VCCSa could help or its just depends on from VCORE?

Tx agian !
 

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You mean 1.405 -> (1,36+1,45)/2... right?

And how about Cache rate.
I'm stable 47x...
If I try 48x the system freeze...
Rising VCCIO and VCCSa could help or its just depends on from VCORE?

Tx agian !
I forgot to say adaptive only applies to multipliers > 53, so doesn't affect 53. I can only get my cache to go up 48 on my 10700k. Maybe a limitation of your chip, maybe more vcore needed.
 

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Direct die cooling has made a huge difference on my cpu. Before direct die cooling it took 1.390v bios to pass r20 without error @ 5.3ghz and 5ghz cache, and temps were reaching upper 80's. After the delid and direct die, I can pass r20 with only 1.27v set in bios, with a max temp of only 62c. It was only tested with 3 back to back runs just to show the difference. When I delidded I notice the solder was very thick in certain spots and i wonder if thats the reason I had a 14c difference between cores before the delid. My 5.2ghz vmin dropped from 1.285v to 1.23.
 

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Quick comparisim 10900kf to 5800x , 10900kf @ 5.1 gigahz , ram medium overclock @4000 , reduced to 8cores only and power reduced to 140 watt in XTU timespy cpu scores comparing to best scores of 5800x , i have 5800x but for me i managed 4.8 all core overclcoked but couldnt reach even 12000 in time spy cpu scores.
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Direct die cooling has made a huge difference on my cpu. Before direct die cooling it took 1.390v bios to pass r20 without error @ 5.3ghz and 5ghz cache, and temps were reaching upper 80's. After the delid and direct die, I can pass r20 with only 1.27v set in bios, with a max temp of only 62c. It was only tested with 3 back to back runs just to show the difference. When I delidded I notice the solder was very thick in certain spots and i wonder if thats the reason I had a 14c difference between cores before the delid. My 5.2ghz vmin dropped from 1.285v to 1.23.
What is your setting for LLC ?, Mine is doing 5.1ghz @1.2 vmin ,but trying to decrease the idle Vcore currently 1.31v .
 

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What is your setting for LLC ?, Mine is doing 5.1ghz @1.2 vmin ,but trying to decrease the idle Vcore currently 1.31v .
I use -50% vdroop setting, its equivalent to asus llc6, gigabyte llc turbo . Asus reports actual die voltage, Msi and gigabyte report vrout, which is the same as die voltage. Evga doesn't read die voltage, so voltage will read higher than the way other board manufacturers read voltages.

I know on the evga z390 dark setting -50% vdroop with 1.25v resulted in a actual die voltage of 1.213. If the z490 is anything like the z390 my actual die voltage on 1.27 set it bios would be 1.223v. I wish the dark read die voltage that way you could compare it to other boards. Im not stable at 1.27, it was just my minimum set voltage it took to pass 3 b2b runs of r20 without error.

You seem to have gotten a nice sample of a 10850k, have you attempted higher clocks yet?
 

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Quick comparisim 10900kf to 5800x , 10900kf @ 5.1 gigahz , ram medium overclock @4000 , reduced to 8cores only and power reduced to 140 watt in XTU timespy cpu scores comparing to best scores of 5800x , i have 5800x but for me i managed 4.8 all core overclcoked but couldnt reach even 12000 in time spy cpu scores.
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Don't go by famous youtube tech channels. The 10900k with fast ram and overclock beats the 5950x in most games. This youtuber does proper benchmarking.

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Don't go by famous youtube tech channels. The 10900k with fast ram and overclock beats the 5950x in most games. This youtuber does proper benchmarking.

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I used my actual testing, Amd Cpu pushed to limit from factory but intel give you a large head room for my comparaisim i limit the intel power consumption to 140 watt to mimic the max for 5800x and disable 2 cores for same reason, but still intel with double size 14nm teck. win the amd 7nm tecknology.
5800 x have high single core score but quickly sucks when using 3 or more core active, intel start suffer when go over 8 cores active .
 

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Since I was getting no stability trying to rise uncore clock, I got a question about performance.

Clock 5.1ghz with 4.0ghz uncore will be faster than 4.9ghz with 4.8ghz uncore? Tks a lot!
 

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Hi...

I'm running 55x3, 54x5, 54x8, 53x10 - Adative = 1,460V.

Playing, the OCTVB reduce clock to 53x~51x @ 1,37 Vcore and the consumption is about 100W @55~60C

Under heavy load I Have 5.1GHz - 1.24Vcore

Do you think this voltage, power and temp are acceptable?
 

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SO why not using max 1000khz not better ?
Well, the higher the frequency the higher the VRM temperature, so that depends on the VRM and how well it is cooled and the longevity of the components at these higher frequencies. In addition, the output filtering may be tuned to the frequency, so there may be an optimal frequency for a VRM, but I believe that at these higher frequencies this is not an issue.
 

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Having not yet figured out adaptive voltage or offsets, I am trying to decide which way to go for a 24/7 OC. I am on a 10900K (SP 75) with an Asus Z490-E Gaming (0707 bios) and X73 AIO (360mm).

I am stable at 5.1 with LLC 5 and bios vCore set at 1.395. Temps at 30 minutes P95 Small FFT No AVX and 8 Hours Real Bench are 82-87. Under load, vCore is 1.350 and VID is 1.359. Running games, the vCore is 1.376, VID 1.325 and temps sit in the high 40s.

If possible, I would like to not have the CPU idling at this voltage. So, I figured I would try just setting the core ratio to 51 and leaving voltage and LLC to auto. Two minutes into P95 (Small FFT No AVX) temps were 91 to 95. vCore under load was 1.430 and VID was 1.395. While gaming, vCore was 1.483, VID was 1.490, and temps were in the mid 50s.

Obviously, I am not going to be stress testing my PC all the time, so I do not think the temps on P95 are a huge concern on auto. My rig is used for light productivity (MS Office) and gaming. When it comes to longevity, do you think I should go with the manual voltage at 1.395, or the auto voltage? Manual is cooler with lower voltage under load, but it sits at 1.395 all the time. Auto is hotter and higher voltage when gaming, but obviously the voltage drops off considerably while idle. For what its worth, I kept my last machine for 7 years, and would like to try to do the same with this one.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 

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Does anyone know if the EK-QuantumX Delta Tec will work with direct die cooling?

5.5ghz&5.2 cache max temp 73, it sure is fun pushing the limits.
5.3 should be no problem to daily, before the delid and direct die 5.2ghz hit 86c in real bench.
 

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