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@Delpize you were supposed to also mention/include game's name, settings and resolution...
 

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This is my current setup. May i list my problems here?

1- I was getting higher fps with 10850k and z490 apex. But rightnow my fps is lower with same mobo/ram with 11900k. There huge fps difference. For example, i play Apex Legends Lowest settings 1080p. And when i was on the ship, right before we jump, i was getting stable 190fps. But right now its around 120-160).
2- I was getting 36 ish latency on aida with same ram/mobo with 10850k. But 41 ns is not what i deserve. (Was using same clock/cache)
3-My ram training takes years. It doesnt train properly, i mean its take too long. I wonder if im missing/or doing something wrong. Maybe bios version? I flashed my both backup and main bios
to the 2103 with using the button behind of mobo.

Would be really nice if you could help me, its been 5 days with this cpu but i couldnt even gaming once.

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5,2/4,6 3866-13-14-14 2T
@5,3 would be the same or better fps
Except me and sugi was running with HD textures on.. Not sure if there's any difference though?
5.3/4.8 is a clock reduction btw
 

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This is my current setup. May i list my problems here?

1- I was getting higher fps with 10850k and z490 apex. But rightnow my fps is lower with same mobo/ram with 11900k. There huge fps difference. For example, i play Apex Legends Lowest settings 1080p. And when i was on the ship, right before we jump, i was getting stable 190fps. But right now its around 120-160).
2- I was getting 36 ish latency on aida with same ram/mobo with 10850k. But 41 ns is not what i deserve. (Was using same clock/cache)
3-My ram training takes years. It doesnt train properly, i mean its take too long. I wonder if im missing/or doing something wrong. Maybe bios version? I flashed my both backup and main bios
to the 2103 with using the button behind of mobo.

Would be really nice if you could help me, its been 5 days with this cpu but i couldnt even gaming once.

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load optimize
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make sure flash via ezflash in bios to get the cpu microcode properly updated.

hmm dont play apex. so. not sure.

cpu oc
can u try sync 51
ringdown disable min/max 45
manual vcore 1.5
loadline 2

your rams is that stable? one of the _dd/dr pairs is pretty tight.

z490 didnt get the performance boost lile z590. so not sure..
 

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load optimize
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make sure flash via ezflash in bios to get the cpu microcode properly updated.

hmm dont play apex. so. not sure.

cpu oc
can u try sync 51
ringdown disable min/max 45
manual vcore 1.5
loadline 2

your rams is that stable? one of the _dd/dr pairs is pretty tight.

z490 didnt get the performance boost lile z590. so not sure..
Trying right now, will let you know what happened. And ill make sure my rams are stable.
 

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Thanks guys for sharing your result!
It seems like 1080P ultra is limited by gpu. To see the CPU difference, we may have to set everything low at 1080P and compare.
I just started a complete teardown of my system so might take me a while. Moving my parts over it to a praxis bench and a mo-ra to prepare for alder lake 😁

Anyway, point still stands; Reveiwers can't be trusted 😂
 
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Thanks guys for sharing your result!
It seems like 1080P ultra is limited by gpu. To see the CPU difference, we may have to set everything low at 1080P and compare.
Lower Res scale is a better idea, that way you get the same draw calls.
 

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correct me if i am wrong, but does the same 3c microcode have the beta 2402 bios that you have put for the formula xii?

So does it have any improvements to highlight or worth putting on the z490? with rocketlake?

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the changes that I have been able to find between the bios 2103 and the 2402 beta for the formula xii z490 are ...

the slinitDxe the Setup, and the firmwareperformancedxe!

I have no idea what changes there are or what they can cause ... any ideas?
 

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This thread has gone quiet lately. Everyone must be busy testing their ES 12900K and Z690s.

:)
Ive been tweaking my 11900K like a crazy person. Just learning the CPU and platform. I’ve decided to keep the one I have.

The silicon isn’t the best in the world, but my cache and IMC is good enough. And the silicon is decent.

R23 is 5.2Ghz all core stable with 1.409-1.412V range at around 285 watts.

I can bump the cache/ring up to 47, and the voltage demand does increase, and the power consumption jumps up a little.

So far I can run a few different overclocks that work pretty well. I go back and forward depending on the day I suppose.

5.2Ghz all core, cache x47, and memory is at 3,882Mhz CL14-14-14-35 with my BCLK at 104Mhz.

^ This setting uses around 1.429-1.433V in R23 underload. (This is my common daily OC profile)

But I have tested (7) cores at 5.3Ghz (8) cores at 5.2Ghz. This does increase R23 load cpu voltage to 1.448V range. And power usage jumps to 318-320 watts. However, when running games and applications the CPU is almost always at 5.3Ghz, and I gain that IPC of 5.3Ghz in the games I play.

(Also a very stable setup) ^

My 11900K is getting delidded! So 5.3Ghz all
core will be a reality soon enough. Maybe even 5.4Ghz-5.5Ghz on some cores, that’s already possible for gaming etc.
 

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So guys, especially @cstkl1
I went from 10850k to 11900k on z490 apex. However my fps is lower in games.(gear 1 3800 13-14-14-28 also my latenct was 35ns with 10850k same ram same mobo.now its 40ns)

. So I searched on the internet and people say its because of microcode. But i alrady use latest bios. Does anyone have an idea? How can i fix it. I was getting 190 stable fps with 10850k but now with the 11900k and. Z490 ıts dropping to 130?
I came from a 10900K to a 11900K. I was using a Evga Z490 Dark Kingpin motherboard. (Latest bios)

The experience wasn’t the best at all. The Z490 board kinda killed the experience. (Poor latency) (Poor bandwidth) it literally killed the 11900K all together. (However, the 11900K was still faster in my games than the prior Gen 10/20.

I have since upgraded to the Evga Z590 Dark, and I am glad that I gave the 11900K another chance.
Day and night difference! I have the 35NS latency, 63GBPS bandwidth, gear 1 mode, and the IPC gains I needed for high fps gaming.

Gaming performance saw a huge jump in performance. Also, I recommend “disabling” the (Enhanced C states)
And with only the Intel ABT enabled, you should see a pretty drastic gain in gaming as well.

Honestly any game with Rocket Lake 11900K has proven beneficial. The new 8/16 can do 95-100% what the old 10/20 could in anything multithreaded. And single thread performance has already shown how well a 11900K does.
 

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correct me if i am wrong, but does the same 3c microcode have the beta 2402 bios that you have put for the formula xii?

So does it have any improvements to highlight or worth putting on the z490? with rocketlake?

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now we are at 4c

i am not sure at which microcode.. intel fixed the avx bug for physics timespy.

no need to disable

funny my daily stable can get no 1 in all 3
based on the submission date.. i think the microcode fix is the cause


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Finally received my 4000 CL14 (2x16 GB) kit today.
Could boot like 10 times in a row in Windows desktop with 3974 MHz (3866 MHz + BCLK) 13-13-13-14-2 on my Apex 13.

If I switch sticks, it's 3970 MHz 13-13-13-14-2.

So both sticks are very close.
 
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