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Overclocking a Turion X2 on a Wistron 303C Mobo notebook?

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Also has Phoenix BIOS, Can it be done? I can't do much gaming on this machine and was looking for say 2.5GhZ. I have 2GhZ. Right now. Can this be done?
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I wouldn't do it. You may be able to with a program in Windows, but the way laptops are you would be making more heat and it wouldn't help. I'd just forget about it.
I have excellent cooling on it with an idle temperature of about 70degress F.
Welcome to the site, this place is great.

You can use programs like clockgen, but those don't have that great of a reputation around here. But it would likely work.

Also, idle temps dont mean much, what are your load temps (and most people around here use celcius, so I'm sure most would appreciate your temps in c, not in f).

Good luck
ClockGen does not support it, load temp (90% load) 46Celsius
It's a strange MOBO (Wistron *** is that?)
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ClockGen does not support it, load temp (90% load) 46Celsius

Are you in a freezer? Your stated temps are ridiculous. You idle at 70F on a Turion? You at full load 46C so like 115F? Sorry not happening without something going on and I don't mean a notebook cooler.

What GPU? What chipset that helps to help you OC. And 2.5Ghz I have real doubts. I could only get like 1.6 up to 1.9 on a TL-52. Yea I read others did better but not 25%. On my Intel not 25% either.
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Unfortunately I dont have much, if any experience with software OCin. I know that it works for some people in your circumstances, but other than clockgen, the only software I know of is SetFSB, but I think thats only for intel (could be way off on that one).

But if you cant get into the BIOS to get this done, and you cant get any software that works, you might be out of luck... sorry.

Good luck with your search though
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Are you in a freezer? Your stated temps are ridiculous. You idle at 70F on a Turion? You at full load 46C so like 115F? Sorry not happening without something going on and I don't mean a notebook cooler.

What GPU? What chipset that helps to help you OC. And 2.5Ghz I have real doubts. I could only get like 1.6 up to 1.9 on a TL-52. Yea I read others did better but not 25%. On my Intel not 25% either.
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No, I'm not in a freezer but my laptop (Case cracked open) is, with two giant sinks and fans sitting on it too.
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These are the kinds of responses that are less than helpful. Sometimes you wish that people would just choke back that need to be heard on subjects they know little about.

GMNation, if you still frequent this board, I have spent no small time with a number of Wistron 303c board based laptops and the answer is yes, you can overclock the hell out of this board.

What you need is to download the 186.81 vid drivers from Nvidia, make sure you get the correct version i.e. either 32 or 64 bit depending on what op system you are running. Then download (also from Nvidia) the latest version of system tools- should be version 6 something.

Hopefully the case you have is somewhat easier to deal with than what I have, but perhaps since your temps are already very low, ( 46 C at 90 load seems more likely to be the cpu temp and NOT the "cpu core" temp which is more important...I'd suggest Lavalys's Everest 5 for monitoring everything on the board...) but if indeed your unit is posting these kind of temps, then you are good to go. Note, the heatpipe used is more often than not barely adequate , so ...if Everest is showing temps of the cpu core, gpu core and mcp in the 80C range at load, you need to pull the board out, pull the heatsink/pipe off and shim and re-bed the thing with arctic silver or comparable. You want to make VERY sure that ALL the chips contacting the heat sink (on the compaq boards i've seen there are 4) are properly shimmed up to get good contact so as to achieve maximum heat transfer to the exhaust.

Now, your Turion X2 is going to run a bit warmer than the Sempron 42's I've been playing with but I can tell you for a fact that the average sempron can be pushed easily to 2500, and a good one will run solid at 2600 at 100 percent usage at around 70 to 74 C. Your mileage may vary but being the same family, I suspect you can do nearly as well.

Second, for gaming you'll find that your 8200m g can be substantially tweaked as well if properly shimmed and bedded..(its under the same heat pipe on the CQ's i've seen. Most of the ones I've fooled with have come stock with 400/667/800 timings and can be goosed up to run at 550/750/1500 which will net you a greater than 55 percent increase in 3dmark06 scores. You do this using Nvidia's own System Tools. Be careful, watch your temps, and make your increases carefully and incrementally. As always, some run better than others but all that I have fooled with have been able to comfortably run 500/750/1200 or better.

With your big heatsinks and fans, you should be able to push way past what I've done as..
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the boards I've been talking about have ALL been in laptops


The above procedures on a CQ60 419WM (the 299.00 Wal Mart Special) resulted in going from a 3dmark06 of about 745 to 1172.....with the sempron s1-42. MBoard is a Wistron 303c using stock bios.

Good luck and have fun.

Seer
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Speaking of Wistron 303s,

I'm using one of the cheap-o notebooks from Wal-Mart (the $299 deal) while I'm at school and I'm looking to increase the CPU speed by just a little. I've already set up a nice little fan cooling system, though the unit produces little heat anyway.

Unfortunately, I can't access the BIOS options. Is this because it's an HP?

If so, is there a workaround or stock BIOS I can use/download?

Any tips for this noob would be appreciated.
Also no OC software will cooperate with the chipset (Clockgen, setfsb, etc)
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These are the kinds of responses that are less than helpful. Sometimes you wish that people would just choke back that need to be heard on subjects they know little about.

GMNation, if you still frequent this board, I have spent no small time with a number of Wistron 303c board based laptops and the answer is yes, you can overclock the hell out of this board.

What you need is to download the 186.81 vid drivers from Nvidia, make sure you get the correct version i.e. either 32 or 64 bit depending on what op system you are running. Then download (also from Nvidia) the latest version of system tools- should be version 6 something.

Hopefully the case you have is somewhat easier to deal with than what I have, but perhaps since your temps are already very low, ( 46 C at 90 load seems more likely to be the cpu temp and NOT the "cpu core" temp which is more important...I'd suggest Lavalys's Everest 5 for monitoring everything on the board...) but if indeed your unit is posting these kind of temps, then you are good to go. Note, the heatpipe used is more often than not barely adequate , so ...if Everest is showing temps of the cpu core, gpu core and mcp in the 80C range at load, you need to pull the board out, pull the heatsink/pipe off and shim and re-bed the thing with arctic silver or comparable. You want to make VERY sure that ALL the chips contacting the heat sink (on the compaq boards i've seen there are 4) are properly shimmed up to get good contact so as to achieve maximum heat transfer to the exhaust.

Now, your Turion X2 is going to run a bit warmer than the Sempron 42's I've been playing with but I can tell you for a fact that the average sempron can be pushed easily to 2500, and a good one will run solid at 2600 at 100 percent usage at around 70 to 74 C. Your mileage may vary but being the same family, I suspect you can do nearly as well.

Second, for gaming you'll find that your 8200m g can be substantially tweaked as well if properly shimmed and bedded..(its under the same heat pipe on the CQ's i've seen. Most of the ones I've fooled with have come stock with 400/667/800 timings and can be goosed up to run at 550/750/1500 which will net you a greater than 55 percent increase in 3dmark06 scores. You do this using Nvidia's own System Tools. Be careful, watch your temps, and make your increases carefully and incrementally. As always, some run better than others but all that I have fooled with have been able to comfortably run 500/750/1200 or better.

With your big heatsinks and fans, you should be able to push way past what I've done as..
drumroll...
the boards I've been talking about have ALL been in laptops


The above procedures on a CQ60 419WM (the 299.00 Wal Mart Special) resulted in going from a 3dmark06 of about 745 to 1172.....with the sempron s1-42. MBoard is a Wistron 303c using stock bios.

Good luck and have fun.

Seer

I want to thank you so much for this! I have successfully managed to overclock my CPU to roughly 2.33 GHz (245 MHz bus speed) up from a 1.9 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2. I can't seem to go any higher than that without my laptop restarting. BTW, I have the same motherboard but running on an HP G60-146CA laptop.

As for the GPU, I've set it to the 550/750/1500 that you suggested and I haven't had any problems yet. I'm using another program called SysTool that allows me to alter the 2D Core Clock as well which defaults at 169 MHz. It's at 300 MHz now without any problem. Can I go any higher on that?

Are there any other boosts I can apply, maybe change some of the memory settings in the NVIDIA control panel?

Thanks for your help!
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Jacks, read my earlier post LOL, you just missed my info on how to oclock the exact machine you have.

Rick, I think you are probably getting close to the wall. Depending on what op system you are running, there are some things you can do to clean up the system to run faster, especially when gaming. There are a lot of processes etc. that can be safely shut down and then restarted later when you're finished. Look for a good < insert your op system here> performance tweak guide.

Last thing I'd suggest would be to spend some time trying to undervolt your system. Use K10stat for that. For a pretty good "howto" check out this blog from Weinter:

http://aspiregemstone.blogspot.com/2...processor.html

the trick is to stay stable but lower temps and this DOES work
as always take it slow and easy, and you'll be happy with the results.

seer
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Jacks, read my earlier post LOL, you just missed my info on how to oclock the exact machine you have.

Rick, I think you are probably getting close to the wall. Depending on what op system you are running, there are some things you can do to clean up the system to run faster, especially when gaming. There are a lot of processes etc. that can be safely shut down and then restarted later when you're finished. Look for a good < insert your op system here> performance tweak guide.

Last thing I'd suggest would be to spend some time trying to undervolt your system. Use K10stat for that. For a pretty good "howto" check out this blog from Weinter:

http://aspiregemstone.blogspot.com/2...processor.html

the trick is to stay stable but lower temps and this DOES work
as always take it slow and easy, and you'll be happy with the results.

seer

Any idea how I can find the default voltages? I'm an idiot and forgot to record them. I went a little too low and now it appears that I can't overclock my CPU to the speed I was at before without it crashing. I currently have 1 core at 1.1 V and the other at 1.0 V.
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I want to thank you so much for this! I have successfully managed to overclock my CPU to roughly 2.33 GHz (245 MHz bus speed) up from a 1.9 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2. I can't seem to go any higher than that without my laptop restarting. BTW, I have the same motherboard but running on an HP G60-146CA laptop.

As for the GPU, I've set it to the 550/750/1500 that you suggested and I haven't had any problems yet. I'm using another program called SysTool that allows me to alter the 2D Core Clock as well which defaults at 169 MHz. It's at 300 MHz now without any problem. Can I go any higher on that?

Are there any other boosts I can apply, maybe change some of the memory settings in the NVIDIA control panel?

Thanks for your help!

I have the same board, can I overclock it and or upgrade my CPU?
Thanks, Jeff
Windows 2000 Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 6002) Hewlett-Packard Compaq Presario CQ60 Notebook PC F.54
System Serial Number: 2CE9226GM6
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
2.10 gigahertz AMD 486DX
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Wistron 303C 08.60
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard F.54 08/18/2009
Running Vista
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I want to thank you so much for this! I have successfully managed to overclock my CPU to roughly 2.33 GHz (245 MHz bus speed) up from a 1.9 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2. I can't seem to go any higher than that without my laptop restarting. BTW, I have the same motherboard but running on an HP G60-146CA laptop.

As for the GPU, I've set it to the 550/750/1500 that you suggested and I haven't had any problems yet. I'm using another program called SysTool that allows me to alter the 2D Core Clock as well which defaults at 169 MHz. It's at 300 MHz now without any problem. Can I go any higher on that?

Are there any other boosts I can apply, maybe change some of the memory settings in the NVIDIA control panel?

Thanks for your help!

Can I upgrade the processor in my Wistron 303 C? And to what Max Physical CPU?
Windows 2000 Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 6002) Hewlett-Packard Compaq Presario CQ60 Notebook PC F.54
System Serial Number: 2CE9226GM6
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
2.10 gigahertz AMD 486DX
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Wistron 303C 08.60
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard F.54 08/18/2009
Running Vista
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