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Overclocking Raptor Lake - 13900k,13700k, 13600k etc results, bins and discussion

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Newest Asus MB Raptor Lake beta bioses:

RaptorLake Resources

i will use this as a collection of test bioses/tools/info targeted towards Raptorlake + z69/790 NOTE for Z690: You must update ME on your Z690 to properly support raptorlake (if you are on dual bioses then you need to do this to both bioses) 1) d/l and install ME driver...
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Sp 13900k/KF bins:

Nizzen SP 110 P119 / E93 KF / SP 88 MC
Nizzen SP 100 P110 / E80 K
sugi0lover SP 114 P124 / E94
Falk SP 106 P113 / E94.
RobertoS SP ? P119/E102
Roooo SP? P110/E88
Talon 2016 SP106 P115/E88
Miguelios SP106 P116/E88
nickolp1974 SP 103 P111/ E88
Miguelios SP 106 P116/ E88
Xarot SP 97 P106/E81
Owikh84. SP 101 P110/E83
Bilco SP 101 P110/E83
PBaF SP 103 P113/E85
Carillo SP 103 P113/E83 / SP 77 MC
Shkiz0 SP 105 P115/E85


New toys to play with soon :D

Looks like 13600k is almost beating 5950x in rendering :p

wccftech.com

Intel Core i5-13600K 14 Core Raptor Lake ES CPU Tested, 40% Faster Than Core i5-12600K & Beats The Ryzen 9 5950X In Cinebench

The latest benchmarks of Intel's mainstream Core i5-13600K 14-Core Raptor Lake Desktop CPU have leaked out and it's a beast.
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Test cpu:



P cores: Sync x57
Actual VRM Vcore Voltage: 1.345v bios set
Loadline Calibration: LLC level 6.
VRM Switching frequency: Spread Spectrum Disabled: Sw rate 300-500 khz

MSI Beta bioses:

Professional user Bios,attention to the date - Google Drive

drive.google.com drive.google.com
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newls1
ill be waiting for a 13900K for sure........ Just wondering is the 14900K will have 1 P core and 56 E-Cores...
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newls1 said:
ill be waiting for a 13900K for sure........ Just wondering is the 14900K will have 1 P core and 56 E-Cores...
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Raptor Lake is a joke. All Intel did was bin the cores a bit better and slap on more E-cores. This is useless for gamers, especially if they don't overclock.

Maybe people who do need the cores for multicore workloads might consider it, but that extra cost to upgrade and to also cool the chip so it doesn't throttle... That's also disregarding the wattage necessary.

I'm more curious about the IMC, if anything. Has it improved, or is it still a total dice roll?
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Ichirou said:
Raptor Lake is a joke. All Intel did was bin the cores a bit better and slap on more E-cores. This is useless for gamers, especially if they don't overclock.

Maybe people who do need the cores for multicore workloads might consider it, but that extra cost to upgrade and to also cool the chip so it doesn't throttle... That's also disregarding the wattage necessary.

I'm more curious about the IMC, if anything. Has it improved, or is it still a total dice roll?
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Pretty nice upgrade from 4770k or 3800x ;)

Pretty much all cpu's is a joke if the upgrade is small. I'm not upgrading for the sake of upgrading, but for the sake of overclocking new toys :p

Extra cache wil help for min fps like the 5800x3d.

Like everything else: If you don't like it, don't buy it.

My perfect cpu is a bit like 7980xe was from the start: "Best" in singlethread (tuned 4000mhz memory sub 50ns) and best multicore performance. One cpu to rule them all.
Old 980x was in the same league.
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Raptors higher cache/clocks improving minimum fps at 4k is enticing enough for me, especially if 4080ti/4090ti is released later this year in adequate supply. Enjoyed gaming with stable OC's but now bored, so time to OC new toys.
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Ichirou said:
Raptor Lake is a joke. All Intel did was bin the cores a bit better and slap on more E-cores. This is useless for gamers, especially if they don't overclock.

Maybe people who do need the cores for multicore workloads might consider it, but that extra cost to upgrade and to also cool the chip so it doesn't throttle... That's also disregarding the wattage necessary.

I'm more curious about the IMC, if anything. Has it improved, or is it still a total dice roll?
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People in tweeter seem to care too much from Cinebench score. This is just fuel for AMD. Watch AMD release 32-cores just to get back at intel for a pointless battle.
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Ichirou
ZealotKi11er said:
People in tweeter seem to care too much from Cinebench score. This is just fuel for AMD. Watch AMD release 32-cores just to get back at intel for a pointless battle.
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This is precisely it. All I see is: more E-cores, and higher turbo clocks.
The cache was increased, but doesn't seem to do anything.

Hence, I'm more looking forward to seeing what the IMCs are like.
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Ichirou said:
Raptor Lake is a joke. All Intel did was bin the cores a bit better and slap on more E-cores. This is useless for gamers, especially if they don't overclock.

Maybe people who do need the cores for multicore workloads might consider it, but that extra cost to upgrade and to also cool the chip so it doesn't throttle... That's also disregarding the wattage necessary.

I'm more curious about the IMC, if anything. Has it improved, or is it still a total dice roll?
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There is a substantial l2 increase.
This alone means better performance on cache sensitive games or applications
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postem said:
There is a substantial l2 increase.
This alone means better performance on cache sensitive games or applications
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Will be looking forward to seeing benchmarks with similar setups then. Same E-core count and core multipliers, on various programs/games.

For now, all we have is this:
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Ichirou said:
This is precisely it. All I see is: more E-cores, and higher turbo clocks.
The cache was increased, but doesn't seem to do anything.

Hence, I'm more looking forward to seeing what the IMCs are like.
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No gain?
Look at min fps here ;)

Run 7000+ tweaked ddr5 , and the results will be pretty decent :)
www.guru3d.com

Minimum framerates of games evaluated on an engineering sample of Intel's Core i9-13900K have improved.

Recently, an Intel 13th Generation Core CPU was evaluated. The future K-series CPU will be a 24-core, 32-thread processor with no power limits. This is not a retail processor, but rather a qualifying ...
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No gain?
Look at min fps here ;)
www.guru3d.com

Minimum framerates of games evaluated on an engineering sample of Intel's Core i9-13900K have improved.

Recently, an Intel 13th Generation Core CPU was evaluated. The future K-series CPU will be a 24-core, 32-thread processor with no power limits. This is not a retail processor, but rather a qualifying ...
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com
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You do realize that's comparing 4.9 GHz with 5.5 GHz, right?
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Ichirou said:
You do realize that's comparing 4.9 GHz with 5.5 GHz, right?
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There is no all core 5.5ghz vs 4.9ghz here, so the gain isn't from just the cpu frequency ;)
How many % is 4.9 to 5.5? IF it would be magical all core?
~12%

Difference in min fps in 1080p was ~28%

Looks to me that the cache is doing some magic ;)
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Damage Inc
It's the Alder Lake with extra e-cores. If the IMC quality hasn't increased significantly, I'll be skipping this one until the next socket with faster e-cores and better per clock performance.
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Damage Inc said:
It's the Alder Lake with extra e-cores. If the IMC quality hasn't increased significantly, I'll be skipping this one until the next socket with faster e-cores and better per clock performance.
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Did you look at post from guru3d?
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SuperMumrik
I will get one for sure!
Looks interestingly enough if there's a imc improvement since I'm "done" with my adl chip 😎
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Ichirou
Nizzen said:
There is no all core 5.5ghz vs 4.9ghz here, so the gain isn't from just the cpu frequency ;)
How many % is 4.9 to 5.5? IF it would be magical all core?
~12%

Difference in min fps in 1080p was ~28%

Looks to me that the cache is doing some magic ;)
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Testing methodology is still moot until the 13900K is clocked down to the same settings as the 12900K.
Even if it's only one core boosting up, that still exaggerates results, as many games still use one core.
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Ichirou said:
Testing methodology is still moot until the 13900K is clocked down to the same settings as the 12900K.
Even if it's only one core boosting up, that still exaggerates results, as many games still use one core.
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Show me one of the tested games using on core. Try to show me one game made the last 5 years that use ONE core ;)

I can't wait to play that game with 5.8ghz 😉
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xarot
I am a bit worried about the possible cooling issues with these chips. Probably eating more watts than 12900KS, but how big is the die?
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xarot said:
I am a bit worried about the possible cooling issues with these chips. Probably eating more watts than 12900KS, but how big is the die?
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Die is never big enough for us overclockers, that's for shure 🤓🤟
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