[113802]

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The 32nm chip production technology is the next evolution in chip manufacturing, an upgrade over the 45nm process AMD has been using most recently. By reducing the size of the features on the chip, companies can ramp up performance and energy efficiency, while creating smaller chips.

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[lordikon]

lol at the quote. 32nm is something Intel has had out for months. So why is this a big deal? Maybe a big deal for AMD.

 

[Segovax]

 

[Zen00]

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Originally Posted by lordikon lol at the quote. 32nm is something Intel has had out for months. So why is this a big deal? Maybe a big deal for AMD.

I would say it's more of a big deal on the GPU side rather than the CPU.

 

[Genjimaru]

I thought I read somewhere that the GPU aspect of the chip was DX11 compatable. If that is true, then I find that impressive for an intergrated option.

 

[DuckieHo]

Melanie Pinola, you are missing the bigger picture. The big deal is the architecture... not the manufacturing process. This is the first major new AMD architecture in 8 years!!!!

Not Bulldozer.

 

[Kand]

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo Melanie Pinola, you are missing the bigger picture. The big deal is the architecture... not the manufacturing process. This is the first major new AMD architecture in 8 years!!!!

Isnt Llano still built off the Phenom II architecutre?

 

[sLowEnd]

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Originally Posted by Kand Isnt Llano still built off the Phenom II architecutre?

Llano? Yeah.

 

[pale_neon]

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Originally Posted by Kand Isnt Llano still built off the Phenom II architecutre?

in the same way the Core 2 was built off the pentium III.

 

[Hallock]

its nice to see AMD has something to be excited its really been a while.

 

[Kand]

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Originally Posted by pale_neon in the same way the Core 2 was built off the pentium III.

So what's Bulldozer made from? Athlon?

 

[pale_neon]

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Originally Posted by Kand So what's Bulldozer made from? Athlon?

no i was pointing out that all chips are evolutions of previous chips. And that the core 2, which was a great chip; was heavily based on the Pentium 3. i wasn't being literal.

 

[sLowEnd]

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Originally Posted by pale_neon in the same way the Core 2 was built off the pentium III.

No, it's really K10.5
http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/win...w-193099.shtml

Small modifications have been made, but that's a given considering the die shrink to 32nm and the different target market for these chips.

 

[Heavy MG]

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Originally Posted by pale_neon in the same way the Core 2 was built off the pentium III.

Then is core i3,i5,i7 based off pentium III also?

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Originally Posted by lordikon lol at the quote. 32nm is something Intel has had out for months. So why is this a big deal? Maybe a big deal for AMD.

Lol,wow..did you even read the article?

 

[DuckieHo]

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Originally Posted by Kand Isnt Llano still built off the Phenom II architecutre?

You're right..... Llano is just a tweaked K10.5 (which is based on K10... which is based on K8).

 

[Kasp1js]

1st gen Llano(cpu part) is based on PhenomII, second gen will have Bulldozer based cores.
Well that's what I have heard.

 

[pale_neon]

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Originally Posted by sLowEnd No, it's really K10.5 http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/win...w-193099.shtml Small modifications have been made, but that's a given considering the die shrink to 32nm and the different target market for these chips.

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Originally Posted by pale_neon no i was pointing out that all chips are evolutions of previous chips. And that the core 2, which was a great chip; was heavily based on the Pentium 3. i wasn't being literal.

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Originally Posted by Heavy MG Then is core i3,i5,i7 based off pentium III also?

to a certain extent sure, although much less so than the core 2.

 

[DuckieHo]

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Originally Posted by pale_neon in the same way the Core 2 was built off the pentium III.

Core 2 is a redesigned based off of Pentium M.

Architecturally, the K8, K10, and K10.5 are closely related.

 

[killnine]

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo Core 2 is a redesigned based off of Pentium M.

Right. Up until that point, the Pentium 4 and D series had been based off Netburst and its long pipeline.

Core architecture went back to P6 architecture of the Pentium M, which scaled back the size of its pipeline.

I am probably missing a bunch of other crap that they added, but those are the cliffnotes. I had a [email protected] and it was HOT.

 

[Domino]

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Originally Posted by lordikon lol at the quote. 32nm is something Intel has had out for months. So why is this a big deal? Maybe a big deal for AMD.

Read the article man.... :|

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Although AMD is over a year late to the party (Intel started using the 32nm process in 2009 and sold its first 32nm processors in January 2010), it's better late than never. Intel has always had clear market dominance-and currently has over 80% of the chip market-but Llano could help AMD compete against Intel's Sandy Bridge processors, especially if AMD is able to gain more notebook manufacturer support.

It's a big deal because AMD is going to be making a good punch against Intel's dominance on the market. Consider a RTS game. When your enemy catches up to the same tech level, it becomes a big deal.

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo Architecturally, the K8, K10, and K10.5 are closely related.

I might be getting the names wrong, but isn't llano really related to the Phenom II arch with an added powerful GPU? I thought the first bobcat CPUs were like this?

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo You're right..... Llano is just a tweaked K10.5 (which is based on K10... which is based on K8).

Scroll up and theirs the answer. xD