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Phenom II vs i7 for multitasking

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Anyways I'm looking for a little advice. As most of you know the Phenom II 940's price has been dropping drastically and it's been very tempting for me. I'm currently running an E6750 and have been an Intel guy myself =P. I can't seen to find my answer specifically anywhere; my question is which one handle mutlitasking better, or is there a major difference between the two for CPU intensive task.
There's a game I've been playing lately called Silkroad Online and it's pretty CPU intensive and tends to lag after a few clients. The problem with my dual core is my PC tends to lag when trying to play SRO and games such as Crysis, Fry Cry 2and COD5.
There's no doubt I'll be OC which ever CPU I decide to get, and both CPUs seem to OC to about the same on air. If I decide to purchase the P2, it'll be running 8GB whereas if I go for the i7 I'll be running 6GB.
I'm thinking of setting my budget at $550 for the Phenom II and $650 for the i7 with a +/- 10% margin. Already have case, PSU, and GPU. I know for sure I'm getting a TRUE as well so that's included in the budget.
So basically I want to know which one handle CPU intensive multitasking better and if there's not a large overall difference between the two then I'm definitely going for the cheaper one.
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go with the PII 940. I dont think you can run it to its full potential for what youre doing. PII and 8gb sounds good. Ive been doing intensive multitasking with the PII with only 4GB. Didnt let me down for the price I payed for.
Edit: With the money left over, get yourself a raptor!
Well since i7 is hyperthreading I assume it would be better for multitasking.
i thought u meant pentium 2 haha
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i thought u meant pentium 2 haha
lol...me too..let's all agree to callthe phenom the PHII not the P2. lot less confusing to everyone.
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Well since i7 is hyperthreading I assume it would be better for multitasking.

That's what I'm assuming, but every now and then I read something that says Hyperthreading is just a gimmick.


btw changed all the P2 to PII, sorry if it was misleading.
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i7 will outperform the ph2. but it's not like the ph2 sucks or something. ph2 is a very good cpu as well. it should do well just like c2q. i don't even think you'll have to spend $500 for a good amd build with that upgrade from your system. and with that extra money, you can get yourself another hdd and go raid 0, then more ram. that is more enough to fill the gap in terms of performance. besides, unless you're into benching, i don't think you'll be able to notice the difference between the two.
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For Multitasking, the Core i7 walks any CPU out right now. I can do an anti-virus scan, both Super Anti-spyware and Malbytes Anti-malware scans, surf the web, have 3dmark06 going, and it will not even use 15% of my CPU (less than 10 sometimes), can post a screen shot for proof. I am also running my Core i7 at 4.02 Ghz and at that speed it is a true monster.

For price/performance, either Phenom II or higher end Core 2 Quads will perform about the same. Phenom II might be able to do that performance for slightly cheaper, much cheaper if you can use your current motherboard and memory.

Phenom II is a good way to go on a budget, but Core i7 is where it is at if you want the ultimate in multitasking. I have seen many threads where people claim the Phenom II is like LOADS cheaper. In reality, you can spend around $600 or more on either setup. It's only much cheaper if you already have all the parts on hand, or if you skimp on parts. But to even compete with a Core 2 Quad you will need the best CPU or next to best.

Hyperthreading has never been a gimmick, but Core i7 Hyperthreading definitely works. You have the option to turn it off and can see as high as a 10% performance hit with it disabled on most apps ( for games it does not do much as it is simply not needed, unless of course new games come out that will take advantage of it. I think if that happens the gap between Core i7 and Phenom II/Core 2 Quad will get even wider). This is why on my task manager I show 8 Threads instead of just 4. Anyone who said it is a gimmick is probably a fanboy of AMD and has no knowledge of a Core i7 in reality.

The best part: no matter what you decide to get, they are all nice and considerably faster than what you have now.
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Just a few more questions, AM2+ doesn't support DDR2 1066 on all 4 slots right? So am I limited to DDR800 and how will effect OCing if I plan to use these.

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i7 will outperform the ph2. but it's not like the ph2 sucks or something. ph2 is a very good cpu as well. it should do well just like c2q. i don't even think you'll have to spend $500 for a good amd build with that upgrade from your system. and with that extra money, you can get yourself another hdd and go raid 0, then more ram. that is more enough to fill the gap in terms of performance. besides, unless you're into benching, i don't think you'll be able to notice the difference between the two.


True I'm putting a few combos together on Newegg (PII 940 & the Biostar mobo + 8GB of those G.Skill rams linked above) and its coming out to $364 shipped so another $60 for a TRUE and a couple of Yate Loons the total comes out to $424.
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Just a few more questions, AM2+ doesn't support DDR2 1066 on all 4 slots right? So am I limited to DDR800 and how will effect OCing if I plan to use these.

it does. but there are some cases that you just have to manually set them.
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haha u little botter...

i7 gets my vote but i'd just go with a q9550 or something instead of gettin new mobo,ram, etc
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i thought u meant pentium 2 haha
That's what the thread title is implying..

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lol...me too..let's all agree to callthe phenom the PHII not the P2. lot less confusing to everyone.
Too bad everyone didn't say that..

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That's what I'm assuming, but every now and then I read something that says Hyperthreading is just a gimmick.


btw changed all the P2 to PII, sorry if it was misleading.
Still the same thing.

http://www.overclock.net/rants-raves...phenom-ii.html
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Either one would be sufficent, but the i7 is a hands down better multitasker, no two ways about it.
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The Q9xxx series is similar to the PHII. The Core i7 is currently the best CPU on the market in terms of power. If you want the power, go with i7.
Why not just get a Q9550 and not have to buy a new board? Clock/clock the C2Q is par with Phenom. Then your upgrade is $300 instead of $400-$500 for the Phenom or $600+ for the i7
The i7 as hyper threading. Which is basically made for multitasking. So I would recommends them it.
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Why not just get a Q9550 and not have to buy a new board? Clock/clock the C2Q is par with Phenom. Then your upgrade is $300 instead of $400-$500 for the Phenom or $600+ for the i7
As much as I love my Core i7, this would be smarter for you to do. No sense in fixing what is not broke. I agree with this 100%.

As has been stated, Core 2 Quad and Phenom II perform about the same, you still have the motherboard and memory, so your cheapest route is to just get the best Core 2 Quad you can afford.

If you are going to shell out lots of money, no sense in getting a Phenom II, so logical to get the Core i7 in that case.
ph2 has good gaming capabilities. the 8 threads on i7 make it a monster for multitasking and mulithreaded apps.
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Why not just get a Q9550 and not have to buy a new board? Clock/clock the C2Q is par with Phenom. Then your upgrade is $300 instead of $400-$500 for the Phenom or $600+ for the i7
I got 640GB hard drive and I'd like to run that with my 320 GB in RAID 0, the mobo I have now doesn't support RAID unless I get a RAID card.
And to be honest I not really like my current mobo, it's NB gets too hot for my liking.
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It's quite an obvious answer. It's the i7 but this is where it gets tricky. If you want to save some cash then you can go the Phenom II route or grab a nice Q9650 with a P45/X48 board. It really comes down to how much you can spend and what you're upgrade route in the future is. I really enjoy the multi-tasking ability of the i7 it's great to be able to encode HD movies/clips while playing games and having many other programs in the background. If you won't be utilizing the i7 heavily then why get it ?.
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