[jackofhearts495]

OCN Water-Cooling Tubing Database

SpreadSheet

Hi guys! With any luck we can get an up-to-date tubing database up and running. I'll update as fast as you guys can give me data.

The main purpose of this is to find trends concerning tube clouding/plasticizer leaching.

When you post, PLEASE do your best to have all of the following (copy-able format below):

Brand:
Source:
Purchase Date:
Color:
Transparent? (y/n):
Liquid / Additives:
Kill Coil (y/n):
PH Balance:
Block Material(s):
Tubing Dimensions:
Period of Time:
Tubing Condition & Description:
Notes/Comments:
Feel free to add pictures!

***For "Liquids / Additives", list whatever is running through your loop, be it straight distilled, a mix of biocides + coolant, etc.). Describe any clouding/leeching (or lackthereof) under "Tubing Condition & Description", as well as tubing properties (flexibility, etc.).

Please try to have all of the above information handy, it makes everything a lot neater and more organized. If you don't know some of the info, and you can't figure it out, just leave it blank.

I'm asking for PH balance out of curiosity. If you wouldn't mind spending a few bucks on a PH tester, I think the results could be interesting.

The 2nd spreadsheet is a compilation of information from a few threads/sites, but mainly "Severe Plasticizer in Primochill LRT" thread. I won't be updating that. If your info is already in the older spreadsheet, please re-post (with as much information as possible) and I'll re-add your information to the new spreadsheet.

Thanks guys! Spread the word

Plasticizer Problems / Discussion / Gallery

Tubing Database v1.0

 

[Angrybutcher]

I would add a Purchase Date next to the Source. That will help determine any trends

I'll also add my data

Brand: Primoflex Pro LRT
Source: Performance-PCS
Date Purchased: 04-27-11
Color: UV Green
Transparent? (y/n): Yes
Liquid / Additives: Distilled & Feser Acid Green (Ethelyn Glycol)
Kill Coil (y/n): Yes
PH Balance:
Block Material(s): Copper/Nickel
Tubing Dimensions: 3/8" x 5/8"
Period of Time: 7 months
Notes/Comments: Slight clouding. No visible or known gunking. Tubing has been ran under Distilled and Feser Acid Green for roughly 4 months each, both with silver coil.

 

[jackofhearts495]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrybutcher

I would add a Purchase Date next to the Source. That will help determine any trends

Done.

 

[Angrybutcher]

I think your post is affected by the pesky bug where an edit doesn't display. Also edited my original post with my tubing experience.

 

[jackofhearts495]

Ah, I fixed the spreadsheet. Fixed the opening post too

EDIT: Changed format slightly, added "Description of Tubing"

 

[Artikbot]

There we go:

Brand/model: Alphacool HF
Source: Aquatuning
Purchase date: 30/1/2012
Color: Semitransparent white
Coolant: Osmotic water (tap water to all effects)
Kill coil?: No kill coil.
Additives: No additives.
Block/s materials: Full copper, brass/nickel fittings, brass/copper radiator.
Size: 3/8" ID, 1/2" OD
Period: 20 days.
Description of tube: Prone to kink (very thin walls), extremely flexible (turns make nearly zero force), extremely light, incredibly cheap (€2.5/m). Looks pretty fine. No clouding at all (obviously)

Edit: Will update this in a couple of weeks (when the month of runtime has passed) so I can provide more accurate data about clouding/gunking and whatnot.

 

[Angrybutcher]

A side note on mine, I did not mix the Feser Acid Green and distilled. This tubing was run using either fluid throughout the past 7 or 8 months.

 

[opt33]

Good job with spreadsheet. Looks like primarily older primochill tubing remained clear or minimal clouding. And the newer ones were cloudy, except 1 or 2 that maybe got lucky and bought older tubing.

 

[Big Elf]

Brand: Primochill LRT
Source: Specialtech.co.uk
Purchase Date: 05/18/2011
Color: Black
Transparent? (y/n): N
Liquid / Additives: Deionised Water, 1 drop Copper Sulphate
Kill Coil (y/n): Y
PH Balance: 8-9
Block Material(s): Mixture of copper and nickel plated
Tubing Dimensions: 3/8"ID, 5/8"OD
Period of Time: 5 months
Description of Tubing: No sign of deposits after 5 months, Flexible compared to others I've used, not prone to kinking
Notes/Comments:

Brand: Primochill LRT
Source: Specialtech.co.uk
Purchase Date: 12/23/2010
Color: Clear
Transparent? (y/n): Y
Liquid / Additives: Deionised Water, 1 drop Copper Sulphate
Kill Coil (y/n): Y
PH Balance: 8-9
Block Material(s): Mixture of copper and nickel plated
Tubing Dimensions: 3/8"ID, 1/2"OD
Period of Time: 13 months
Description of Tubing: No sign of deposits or clouding. Although flexible it kinks with tight bends but is better than others I've tried.

I've also checked the bottles of deionised water I have stored. Each one has a silver kill coil in it and around 5 drops of copper sulphate per 5 litres. All test out with the same ph levels.

 

[jackofhearts495]

Updated, thanks guys. I think it's interesting that none of your tubing has clouded yet, Big Elf... time will tell if it's the de-ionized water and/or the copper sulfate I hope.

 

[freitz]

Brand: Primochil LRT
Source: performance-pcs.com
Purchase Date: 1/13
Color: red
Transparent? (y/n): n
Liquid / Additives: pt nuke
Kill Coil (y/n): none
PH Balance: N/A
Block Material(s): Copper
Tubing Dimensions: 3/8 x 5/8
Period of Time: 1 Months
Description of Tubing: Red LRT
Notes/Comments:
Great tubing

 

[jarble]

Brand: genaric
Source:lows/ homedepot
Purchase Date:various spanning over 2years
Color: clear: some slight clouding at the joints and the one link of tubing in sunlight
Transparent? (y/n): y
Liquid / Additives: distilled
Kill Coil (y/n): n
PH Balance: na
Block Material(s): copper
Tubing Dimensions: 1/2id
Period of Time: usually no more than 6 months
Description of Tubing: good cheap tubing
Notes/Comments:the way the coil the tubing at the store make the last 2-2 1/2 feet unusable due to huge kinks
I have also from time to time used the pvc reinforced tubing and do not recommend its use in a build to the amount of tension you can put in the tubing I have cracked lighter components trying to make bends with it

 

[phillyd]

Brand:n/a
Source:home depot
Purchase Date:2/16
Color:clear
Transparent? (y/n):y
Liquid / Additives:distilled water
Kill Coil (y/n):no
PH Balance:distilled so near 7
Block Material(s):copper/plastic (Danger Den AM2+ block)
Tubing Dimensions:1/2 IDE 3/4 ODE
Period of Time:3
Description of Tubing:shockingly clear, doesnt do well with reuse do to the necessary hose-clamp tightness, get a good cutting tool.
Notes/Commentsnly $5, cheap clear stuff from the hardware store. hard to bend any way than what it came, firm but works fantastically.

 

[jackofhearts495]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, when I say "Description of Tubing", I'd like to know if it's still clear, if it's cloudy, how much so, etc.

And for "Liquid / Additives", just list whatever is flowing through your loop (be it straight distilled, a coolant, etc.).

Updated the OP to reflect this. Thanks guys.

 

[phillyd]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackofhearts495

Sorry if I wasn't clear, when I say "Description of Tubing", I'd like to know if it's still clear, if it's cloudy, how much so, etc.

And for "Liquid / Additives", just list whatever is flowing through your loop (be it straight distilled, a coolant, etc.).

Updated the OP to reflect this. Thanks guys.

fixed my post

 

[sli_shroom]

Brand: McMaster-Carr "Choose-A-Color PVC Tubing"
Source: McMaster-Carr
Purchase Date: Nov 11
Color: Black
Transparent? (y/n): N
Liquid / Additives: PC Ice (Clear)
Kill Coil (y/n): N
PH Balance:
Block Material(s): Copper/Nickel+Acryllic
Tubing Dimensions: 7/16 ID x 5/8OD
Period of Time: 3 months
Tubing Condition & Description: No build-up, looks as new as the day it was installed
Notes/Comments: 2nd color I have used (previous was blue). Ran same tubing in previous build for 2 years with the same results-no buildup/no breakdown

 

[jackofhearts495]

Thanks guys

Jarble and Phillyd, could you guys update your posts with tubing condition? You never actually said if they were clear/cloudy.

 

[Ovrclck]

Brand: Primochill LRT
Source: jab-tech.com
Purchase Date: 11/26/11
Color: Clear
Transparent? (y/n): yes
Liquid / Additives: distilled water / mayhem dye (uv green)
Kill Coil (y/n): y
PH Balance:
Block Material(s): EN Nickel Plexi
Tubing Dimensions: 1/2x 3/4
Period of Time: 24 days
Tubing Condition & Description: No clouding
Notes/Comments: purchased by the foot

 

[phillyd]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackofhearts495

Thanks guys

Jarble and Phillyd, could you guys update your posts with tubing condition? You never actually said if they were clear/cloudy.

i updated it

 

[mav2000]

Brand: XSPC
Source: Chilledpc
Purchase Date: July 2011
Color: Black
Transparent? (y/n): N
Liquid / Additives: Biocide
Kill Coil (y/n): No
PH Balance: NA
Block Material(s): Nickel plated 6950 from EK and Copper XSPC Raystorm
Tubing Dimensions: 7/16 5/8"
Period of Time: 6 Months
Tubing Condition & Description: No problems till now, still clear inside, when I checked about 2 months ago
Notes/Comments: