please help a WC noob (me)

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Voyager4300

Discussion Starter · Dec 13, 2006

ok im building myself a conroe rig and im considering getting WC instead of air, i do plan on doing some ocing. im getting a E6600 and i plan on sticking that in a P5B Deluxe with some crucial ballistix ddr 1000. im considering upgrading to WC at the same time. I want something that i can easily upgrade, at first im only gonna be using a x1950 pro, probably the HIS, so i think im prob only gonna be wcing the cpu but at some point want to add blocks for the graphics card and bridges.
im fine buying either a ready kit or putting something together myself, like to use hands on learning lol. putting something together myself might make it easier to upgrade later on but i donno.
so please recommend a good beginning set-up and try to keep it under $200 but if u dont think i can get something good for that much then go higher

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im_not_an_artard

· #2 · Dec 13, 2006

if you want a kit, Swiftech H20-120 and H20-220 are good and upgradeable

for a custom WC id say

Danger Den GTS 240 Rad
Danger Den D5 pump
Stinger Waterblock Standard (pm fstfrddy on here)
7/16" tubing and worm clamps
and a Danger Den reservoir

and possibly a radbox if you need to mount your dual rad

Voyager4300

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 13, 2006

given the large amount of room inside of my armor i was thinking of trying to mount everything inside and like ive seen so many people do before i wanted to put the rad in the front there under the stuff. donno if this matters at all but i also wanted to get some uv reactive fluid preferably blue cause i think it would look awesome. whats the pros and cons of one size tubing over the other?

ira-k

· #4 · Dec 13, 2006

Here's a list of parts.EDIT: I see I got beat listing parts..Good list Buddy... Pump...Danger Den :: Pumps :: DC Powered :: 12V DD-D5 Pump

Cpu Block...fstfrddy here on the Forum makes a killer one...Stinger WB

Res...Or use a T-Line.......Danger Den :: Reservoirs :: Bay Style Reservoirs :: Danger Den Single 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir

Rad..This is a real good one..... Danger Den :: Radiators :: Black Ice Series :: GTX Xtreme Series :: Black Ice GTX240

This one is good but not as and it costs less...Danger Den :: Radiators :: Black Ice Series :: GTS Stealth Radiator :: Stealth GTS 240 Black Ice

Tubing...Use this with 1/2" fittings..It's easier to work around in your case and flows about as well as the 1/2' tubing ...Danger Den :: Tubing :: Tubing and Clamps :: 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing

GPU... Swiftech MCW60 Extreme Duty VGA Bare Water Block (3/8" and 1/2" barbs)

Rad-Box... I just hang mine on the back of my case...Swiftech MCB-120 Black 120mm Radbox Kit

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im_not_an_artard

· #5 · Dec 13, 2006

for uv reactive fluid, u can try Fluid XP, or you can get distilled water, anti-corrosive and add 5%, then add a UV reactant, and i have an armor, but i have xtra fans in teh front so im mounting mine on the back

LembasBread

· #6 · Dec 13, 2006

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ok im building myself a conroe rig and im considering getting WC instead of air, i do plan on doing some ocing. im getting a E6600 and i plan on sticking that in a P5B Deluxe with some crucial ballistix ddr 1000. im considering upgrading to WC at the same time. I want something that i can easily upgrade, at first im only gonna be using a x1950 pro, probably the HIS, so i think im prob only gonna be wcing the cpu but at some point want to add blocks for the graphics card and bridges.
im fine buying either a ready kit or putting something together myself, like to use hands on learning lol. putting something together myself might make it easier to upgrade later on but i donno.
so please recommend a good beginning set-up and try to keep it under $200 but if u dont think i can get something good for that much then go higher

A no-hassle beginner water cooling kit is the Corsair Nautilus. I have one (though, I plan to revamp my water cooling setup completely) and it has served it's purpose well. Around $150, it comes with everything and very clear instructions. You can easily add a gpu block to your loop if you buy one.

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Voyager4300

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 13, 2006

what about the thermaltake bigwater or the aquarius 3?
hower i would prefer something that was individual parts rather than one big unit like the corsair or the aquarius3. i might just end up doing a custom job though and using the dangerden parts you all recommended. i do want a rad with 2 fans rather than one for better cooling
also, whats the difference in the barbs, between the high flow and the sure fit?

Waupli

· #8 · Dec 13, 2006

The bigwater is not what you want. Its not very good compared to most set ups. In most cases, kits are not as good as a set of parts that you can get for a little more.

ira-k

· #9 · Dec 13, 2006

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what about the thermaltake bigwater or the aquarius 3?
hower i would prefer something that was individual parts rather than one big unit like the corsair or the aquarius3. i might just end up doing a custom job though and using the dangerden parts you all recommended. i do want a rad with 2 fans rather than one for better cooling
also, whats the difference in the barbs, between the high flow and the sure fit?

Those are junk to Buddy...If you really want a kit look at these two...They are easy to upgrade and come with really good parts to start with...Get this one if you can afford it....Swiftech H20-220-APEX ULTRA CPU Liquid Cooling Kit

You can add 1/2" tubing and a double rad to this one later on...Swiftech H20-120 Premium 120mm Water Cooling Kit

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Voyager4300

Discussion Starter · #10 · Dec 13, 2006

still trying to decide between the swiftech H20-220 and a custom set-up. both seem good and both seem like in the end they would be about the same price. so i got some question so i can know wc better.
1. is the h20-220 in stiock anywhere?
2. what is a barb? and whats the difference between them?
3. different size tubing?
4. does the res matter at all or is it preferance on what looks good?

ira-k

· #11 · Dec 13, 2006

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still trying to decide between the swiftech H20-220 and a custom set-up. both seem good and both seem like in the end they would be about the same price. so i got some question so i can know wc better.
1. is the h20-220 in stiock anywhere?
2. what is a barb? and whats the difference between them?
3. different size tubing?
4. does the res matter at all or is it preferance on what looks good?

Swiftech Apex Ultra Dual 120mm Water Cooling Kit
It's in stock here....

The barb is the fitting that goes into your rad and water blocks, it determines the size of your tubing.....

Go 7/16 x 5/8 for an internal rig...It fits on 1/2" fittings and flows about as well as 1`/2"....

A res makes it a little easier to fill and bleed thats all...A Fil-Port or T-Line are just as good.....

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Snerp

· #12 · Dec 13, 2006

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Swiftech Apex Ultra Dual 120mm Water Cooling Kit
It's in stock here....

The barb is the fitting that goes into your rad and water blocks, it determines the size of your tubing.....

Go 7/16 x 5/8 for an internal rig...It fits on 1/2" fittings and flows about as well as 1`/2"....

A res makes it a little easier to fill and bleed thats all...A Fil-Port or T-Line are just as good.....

reses sometimes have issues with letting bubbles into the system. They also take more liquid than a T-line does. So if you are planning on buying a premixed liquid (fluid xp, MCT-5, etc.) you may want to go with a T-line to prevent having to buy 2 bottles.

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ira-k

· #13 · Dec 13, 2006

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reses sometimes have issues with letting bubbles into the system. They also take more liquid than a T-line does. So if you are planning on buying a premixed liquid (fluid xp, MCT-5, etc.) you may want to go with a T-line to prevent having to buy 2 bottles.

Yeah thats true you have to keep them topped up....I just like to see the water whoooshing through them....

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Voyager4300

Discussion Starter · #14 · Dec 14, 2006

so now i have to ask, whats a fil-port and t line and whats the differences between them and a res? i mean structurally not just benefits of no0 bubbles and stuff. and i do plan using a pre mixed uv reactive coolants so seeing it "whoosh" around would be cool

Snerp

· #15 · Dec 14, 2006

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so now i have to ask, whats a fil-port and t line and whats the differences between them and a res? i mean structurally not just benefits of no0 bubbles and stuff. and i do plan using a pre mixed uv reactive coolants so seeing it "whoosh" around would be cool

A T line is a T fitting in between the blocks & the intake of the pump. The T fitting has an extra length of tubing coming up from the main loop. That makes sure your pump has liquid to pull through the system. A fillport is a type of a plug, if you will, that lets you fill the system and seal off the top of the tubing.

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ira-k

· #16 · Dec 14, 2006

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A T line is a T fitting in between the blocks & the intake of the pump. The T fitting has an extra length of tubing coming up from the main loop. That makes sure your pump has liquid to pull through the system. A fillport is a type of a plug, if you will, that lets you fill the system and seal off the top of the tubing.

What Snerp said....Here are the parts...Or just use a T and a piece of tube..

Fil-Port....... Danger Den :: Reservoirs :: Fillport Reservoir

You need this to go with it....Danger Den :: Reservoirs :: Delrin Fillport

And a T.......Danger Den :: Tubing & Fittings :: Fittings :: Polypropylene "T"

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Voyager4300

Discussion Starter · #17 · Dec 14, 2006

so is the fillport instead of a res or in addition to? and if so why get one over the other?

ira-k

· #18 · Dec 14, 2006

No you just use one or the other....It's just really what-ever you prefer....I know Snerp has had a res leak on him, so he's not to fond of them...The plexi in them can get old and brittle over time and cause leaks....I like them so I can see my water flowing and know my pumps working...Just really what-ever you prefer....

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