One of the issues with this is that your basing things of 1 variation of mice using a specific sensor.

Take all of the 3090 variations for instance. Some I could use, some I would literally toss aside within 30 minutes (CM Recon comes to mind, weird delayed feeling on smaller movements). My 3090 Aurora (I somehow got a really good batch lol) on the other hand, I prefer its tracking (feeling wise) over the 2 3310 based mice I've used (FK1/Avior).

Also the Avago S3888 (Razer Abyssus 3.5G), Synapse?? I don't know how newer Razer mice perform with it, but the older gen sensors actually feel worse when it's installed.

 

3366 ignores small movements? lolwhat? This thing picks up everything like crazy. AM010 is bit more tame in this regard but if you can't track a moving target I might have bad news for you. It's not the sensor, it's you.

 

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Originally Posted by CorruptBE

One of the issues with this is that your basing things of 1 variation of mice using a specific sensor.

Take all of the 3090 variations for instance. Some I could use, some I would literally toss aside within 30 minutes (CM Recon comes to mind, weird delayed feeling on smaller movements). My 3090 Aurora (I somehow got a really good batch lol) on the other hand, I prefer its tracking (feeling wise) over the 2 3310 based mice I've used (FK1/Avior).

I don't have all the mice with all sensors, so I did my best to identify sensor particularities. I understand, that there are a lot of other factors like firmaware, shape, weight, mouse feet, cable, clicks and so on, but they all have different effect. By the way I used all mice with same feet.
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE

Also the Avago S3888 (Razer Abyssus 3.5G), Synapse?? I don't know how newer Razer mice perform with it, but the older gen sensors actually feel worse when it's installed.

Abyssus 3.5 has no software. Only buttons on the bottom.
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Originally Posted by Melan

3366 ignores small movements? lolwhat? This thing picks up everything like crazy. AM010 is bit more tame in this regard but if you can't track a moving target I might have bad news for you. It's not the sensor, it's you.

Which mice did you compared it with?

 

The title doesn't fit the thread. You're comparing pretty much all relevant ICS sensors so why single out the 3366? Also I think it's really hard to be fair when comparing the sensors and voting in a poll like this for many reasons that might change your perception of how well a sensor performs.

• Shape and weight. (3366 suffers here more than others IMO)
• Glide.
• Surface used.
• Different implementations as CorruptBE described.
• Not actually having experience with all of the sensors listed.
• Not testing them at the same time and instead judging from memory which isn't very accurate.

I still think the MLT04 is the best sensor that I have ever used. But that's from inaccurate memory since setting them to 500-1000Hz hasn't been an option for a while now.

 

I have G303, G402, FK1 and MX500 right now. I also borrowed G300S and an old IME3.0 from a friend (don't have those anymore... i mean mice). All of them track fine except only MX500 being a bit unstable @ 1kHz. Even G300S with it's awkward sensor position was good.

Btw, I only use 400 CPI and lowish sensitivity (around 65cm/360). Since G300S was a 3055 I used it's default 1000.

 

I hate such polls.
MOST people will read
"Which image correlation sensor you prefer?"
as
"Which image correlation sensor do you use?"

 

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Originally Posted by Derp

The title doesn't fit the thread. You're comparing pretty much all relevant ICS sensors so why single out the 3366? Also I think it's really hard to be fair when comparing the sensors and voting in a poll like this for many reasons that might change your perception of how well a sensor performs.

• Shape and wieght. (3366 suffers here more than others IMO)
• Glide.
• Surface used.
• Different implementations as CorruptBE described.
• Not actually having experience with all of the sensors listed.
• Not testing them at the same time and instead judging from memory which isn't very accurate.

I still think the MLT04 is the best sensor that I have ever used. But that's from inaccurate memory since setting them to 500-1000Hz hasn't been an option for a while now.

I use it at 125 Hz. I find difference between MLT04 and other ICS is more important than lag.
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Originally Posted by Melan

I have G303, G402, FK1 and MX500 right now. I also borrowed G300S and an old IME3.0 from a friend (don't have those anymore... i mean mice). All of them track fine except only MX500 being a bit unstable @ 1kHz. Even G300S with it's awkward sensor position was good.

Btw, I only use 400 CPI and lowish sensitivity (around 65cm/360). Since G300S was a 3055 I used it's default 1000.

I wonder how you tested it an in which game.
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Originally Posted by detto87

I hate such polls.
MOST people will read
"Which image correlation sensor you prefer?"
as
"Which image correlation sensor do you use?"

Sadly it's true. I don't usually use ICS.

 

I have a g303 and I really love the shape. Unfortunately I could not get used to the 3366. It felt inconsistent and was unpredictable for small movements. Small movements would sometimes not register or would go further than expected.

I have many 3310 mice from various manufacturers and they are consistently my favourite as I find them responsive, consistent and predictable. The cursor always lands where I expect it.

 

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Originally Posted by AnimalK

I have a g303 and I really love the shape. Unfortunately I could not get used to the 3366. It felt inconsistent and was unpredictable for small movements. Small movements would sometimes not register or would go further than expected.

Might be the lens issue they're discussing in the G303 thread atm.

 

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Originally Posted by Above8

I wonder how you tested it an in which game.

Quake Live, CSGO, BF3/4 and osu.

How I tested? Simple, I just look for usual suspects:
1. Pain from gripping;
2. Problems aiming;
3. Problems tracking;
4. Problems with compensating recoil;
5. Malfunction during turns or other reasons;

Five points which make a mouse bad for me.
Rest is irrelevant. I don't spend my time getting mad at my peripherals, I spend it on getting ready for the game.

 

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Originally Posted by CorruptBE

Might be the lens issue they're discussing in the G303 thread atm.

It's problem with data processing.
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Originally Posted by Melan

Quake Live, CSGO, BF3/4 and osu.

How I tested? Simple, I just look for usual suspects:
1. Pain from gripping;
2. Problems aiming;
3. Problems tracking;
4. Problems with compensating recoil;
5. Malfunction during turns or other reasons;

Five points which make a mouse bad for me.
Rest is irrelevant. I don't spend my getting mad at my peripherals, I spend it on getting ready for the game.

Try to compare Logitech vs non-Logitech, for example G303 vs FK1.

 

I already did and I said there's no difference what so ever. I can track with FK1 as good as I can do with 303.

 

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Originally Posted by CorruptBE

Might be the lens issue they're discussing in the G303 thread atm.

Oh I thought the rattle was based on the dpi switch button at the top. Investigating.

 

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Originally Posted by Above8

STMicroelectronics OS MLT 04 (Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 1.1)
Yes, max speed isn't great, I reach its speed limit even at high sensitivity. Yes, accuracy isn't perfect. Yes, it has smoothing.

MLT04 has smoothing? wat

 

Avago S3668 isn't on the list sadly

 

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Originally Posted by Melan

I already did and I said there's no difference what so ever. I can track with FK1 as good as I can do with 303.

I can play as good with the FK1 as with the 303 but my tracking isn't better. Imo having a good shape helps you get movement/etc more in sync with your aim, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're "tracking" better.

FK1 with a 3366 or a DA 3.0G sensor I would no doubt perform slightly better then a FK1 with a 3310.

 

Well yeah. If shape gets in your way, you're going to have a bad time. For me, 303 shape is good. It doesn't make my hand hurt and it allows certain degree of "micromanagement".

 

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Originally Posted by CorruptBE

Might be the lens issue they're discussing in the G303 thread atm.

It seems you might have discovered why I am not happy with my g303.

 

What games do you play when nearly all sensors are impossible to control?

 

I use g303, before i use IE 3.0. Basically i play csgo.
My problems on g303 - very low lod

1. gripping fine
2. Problems aiming; yes i have problems AIM
3. Problems tracking focused with complicated to where you want. always have to bring a mini motion
4. I HAVE BIG Problems with compensating recoil on G303. I have mutche better compensating recoil on IE 3.0 MLT 04 i dont know ***
5. i have a bad flick shots.

i try play cs go training aim map. and i have better performance on IE 3.0
I more often I miss to g303.
sorry for my bad ENG
best feels sensor for me mlt 04 and 3310 fk1 but fk1 is narrow on mid mouse pain from gripping
3366 not perfect for me. and i go back to IE 3.0 NOW
Probably i must try EC1-A or ZA11

 

I'd like to see your evaluation on S3668's performance. I have a couple of DA3G's soon to become kinzu- and sensadders.

 

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Originally Posted by Above8

Avago AM010 (Logitech G100s)
Cursor movements are separated from hand movements. It's usual for Logitech sensors. Smooth mouse movement results cursor speed jumps. I have a feeling that sensor collects data for like half a second and then makes cursor run all this distance very fast. Maybe it makes the end result more accurate, but in price of inability to correct path during movement. Taking into account, that it's main method of aiming, it makes this sensor unusable, especially for leading moving targets or compensating recoil in games like CS, COD or BF. Also worth mentioning noticeable amount of smoothing.

What? You know that most of Cloud 9 uses that sensor? They have pretty good aim.

Cloud 9 doesn't find the sensor unusable. Since you're some random internet nobody and they are professionals at playing Counter Strike, I think their perceptions of the sensor's quality go a lot farther. Results speak for themselves. You can watch their games and see for yourself how accurately they are able to shoot with that sensor.

 

Na`Vi GuardiaN and Edward. now use ss Kinzu v1 Sudden Attack. They have pretty good aim 2
sensor STMicroelectronics VT5366\
who would tell about this sensor?
http://www.datasheetspdf.com/datasheet/VT5366.html

 

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Originally Posted by Abacus1234

You can watch their games and see for yourself how accurately they are able to shoot with that sensor.

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Originally Posted by IAMSTERDAM

Na`Vi GuardiaN and Edward. now use ss Kinzu v1 Sudden Attack. They have pretty good aim 2

I don't know who they are, but judging from your words if they are given time to adapt they would kick everyone's asses with old Genius ball mice as well. Maybe to a bit lesser extent, but still. The objective of this thread is not to define the skill cap which is one able to reach using a particular sensor, but to compare the sensors performance against each other, in detail.

 

And yet another optical is trash thread is born.