So, I have a friend's system at my house that I'm working on for him. A week or two ago his system quit recognizing the hard drive which I tested on another system and found working.
His system would post up to the bios fine but wouldn't recognize the HD so I figured it must be a problem with the mobo.
I tried slapping everything onto a different mobo I had that's compatible, but now the system won't even post. Fans turn on HD sounds like it's spinning and everything, sounds like a normal boot up, but I don't get any signal to the monitor.
Any ideas? I'm concerned it may be the PSU that's shot...but I don't wanna go and tell him it's one thing then find out that's not really the problem. Thanks in Advance.
Originally Posted by sword44
So, I have a friend's system at my house that I'm working on for him. A week or two ago his system quit recognizing the hard drive which I tested on another system and found working.
His system would post up to the bios fine but wouldn't recognize the HD so I figured it must be a problem with the mobo.
I tried slapping everything onto a different mobo I had that's compatible, but now the system won't even post. Fans turn on HD sounds like it's spinning and everything, sounds like a normal boot up, but I don't get any signal to the monitor.
Any ideas? I'm concerned it may be the PSU that's shot...but I don't wanna go and tell him it's one thing then find out that's not really the problem. Thanks in Advance.
Sword, try disconnecting all of the components from the board (except the PSU, one stick of memory and the processor) and see if it POST's. Have you also tried different cables with the hard drive (sata or pata)? Try also clearing the CMOS on the board and see if that clears up any errors. I would also try another CMOS battery. If the voltage dips below 3 volts then you might run into problems.
Originally Posted by Pir
Psu is most likely the cuprative. Are you able to test the rest of the rig with a spare psu?
I unfortunately don't have another psu to test the system with...the only one I have available doesn't have a PCI-E power plug for the video card or it'd work.
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Originally Posted by thlnk3r
Sword, try disconnecting all of the components from the board (except the PSU, one stick of memory and the processor) and see if it POST's. Have you also tried different cables with the hard drive (sata or pata)? Try also clearing the CMOS on the board and see if that clears up any errors. I would also try another CMOS battery. If the voltage dips below 3 volts then you might run into problems.
I tried clearing the CMOS earlier and I know the battery is good, the board was running a few days ago, also tried different cables for everything I could. I'll see if I can get it to post with minimal components...will have to leave video card too since the board doesn't have integrated video.
Quick Question...if it is the PSU, could that have caused the HD to not be recognized on the other motherboard but still post?
Yes, because as thInk3r was saying, if you take everything off but 1 stick of mem and the CPU it should still post. It just won't load anything. But you can get into your bios. Silly question, im sure you haven't overlooked it but i make stupid errors like this. Does the mobo have onboard graphics, cause if it does then you don't need a PCIe cable and you can swap another psu into it. but as i said you probably already know that. Good luck.
Originally Posted by sword44
I know the battery is good, the board was running a few days ago,
Sword44, this isn't always the case. If the battery is below it's specified voltage (3 volts) then you might run into problems. I'd advice testing with another CMOS battery (CR2032) or at least test your current battery with a multimeter.
Sword44, this isn't always the case. If the battery is below it's specified voltage (3 volts) then you might run into problems. I'd advice testing with another CMOS battery (CR2032) or at least test your current battery with a multimeter.
Ok...I really don't know what the problem is now. I got the system up and running perfectly. Sent the system back to him. He used it for about a week...and now it's not detecting his hard drive again.
I brought the system back to my house and tried putting in a different hard drive just in case...still nothing. I hooked up his hard drive to my computer and it's being detected...in fact, I'm formatting it right now and it seems to be going smoothly.
Is it possible there's another component in the system that's causing this to happen or some random incompatibility I'm missing...I'm really at a loss here. Any help would be appreciated.
There are a couple of things that you can check. Check the connection points for the IDE/SATA on the motherboard. Make sure that they didn't get broken somehow. next check the cables. Use different cables and different ports on the motherboard, as well as use a different power connector. Test all possible solutions
My bros comp had the same problem, his computer wouldn't identify his HDD, but when i stuck it in mine it saw it. So i formatted it and it seemed to work. I don't remember if i changed the cables or not. But those are some options that could be. Good luck, Keep us posted
I brought the system back to my house and tried putting in a different hard drive just in case...still nothing. I hooked up his hard drive to my computer and it's being detected...in fact, I'm formatting it right now and it seems to be going smoothly.
Sword, did you verify with the him to make sure he did not go into the BIOS and make any changes? Also make sure the controller on the board wasn't disabled. You could also clear the CMOS and manually reset everything to see if that resolves the problem.
I've checked and re-checked everything. I got the system to recognize the hard drive once, but then I rebooted to start istalling windows and it wasn't there anymore...I'm wondering if it isn't getting enough juice from the PSU.
The PSU i put in there is a 480W Tagan I bought about 5 years ago and the system specs are as follows:
Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 Mobo
2x1Gb RAM
8800GT video card
1 HD
1DVD burner
AMD X2-4400+
Is it possible the Video card is drawing too much power? That's about the last thing I can think of that might cause the problem.
Edit: I also checked the battery and cleared the CMOS.
Originally Posted by sword44
I've checked and re-checked everything. I got the system to recognize the hard drive once, but then I rebooted to start istalling windows and it wasn't there anymore...I'm wondering if it isn't getting enough juice from the PSU.
The PSU i put in there is a 480W Tagan I bought about 5 years ago and the system specs are as follows:
Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 Mobo
2x1Gb RAM
8800GT video card
1 HD
1DVD burner
AMD X2-4400+
Is it possible the Video card is drawing too much power? That's about the last thing I can think of that might cause the problem.
Edit: I also checked the battery and cleared the CMOS.
Sword44, do you have another power supply that you could test with? If you have a multimeter handy you could also test the voltages to make sure they are within spec. Here is a great guide that explains this process: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/guide...ing-guide.html. It's better safe then sorry. The PSU may actually be fine but if you suspect it to be the culprit then it wouldn't hurt to look into it.
Do you have a lower end video card that you could use for testing purposes? It's possible that the SATA controller may be failing as well. Have you tried using completely different SATA cables? Just to clarify are we talking about an IDE drive or a SATA drive?
Have you tried connecting other drives to that mobo port (SATA?, IDE?). Like thlnk3r said, it could be that the controller is dying, and so its picking things up sporadically. Try running the DVD drive off of it, that way you can isolate if it is just that particular port on the mobo, or if the problem is more widespread.
Other thoughts... did this problem just start? was it sudden? It could be that a power surge damaged something, but not enough to make everything completely fail, which could be why its so hard to track down.
I would suggest checking the PSU like with the guide that thlnk3r linked you to, and see what you find.
As for power... that PSU should be enough for that setup, seeing how I have a very similar setup, and a 430w PSU, and its running just fine (actually, i have two more drives as well).
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