[Genkaz]

for what amount of money would it be possible to put together a machine that runs everything new perfectly? Assuming that no monitor or computer peripherals are purchased.

 

[Genkaz]

I am just looking for some possible recommendations and options in terms of putting together a modern machine, while also perhaps including gaming laptop recommendations as well.

 

[accskyman]

It's pretty hard to give recommendations without some direction.

I'd suggest including your location, price range, what expectations you have the system.

 

[Genkaz]

I would say that the price range is from a thousand dollars to 1500, pretty wide.

I would expect it to play Euro Truck Simulator 2, Insurgency, Space Engineers, and other relatively up to date titles.

I would also be interested in knowing what kind of a machine is needed in order to play Witcher 3, just for curiosity's sake (even though I am currently not too interested in that game)

my location is USA, PA, about half an hour away from Harrisburg.

I also like the idea of playing Layers of Fear and Path of Exile

 

[accskyman]

You can get a nice system for $1500. Even $1000 can get you a decent one.

If you don't mind buying used, there are some good deals to be had, drawback is it's used and some warranties won't carry over. In the end you could have a faster PC for the same price as new.

I don't have much time now but some pre made combo deals at newegg are decently priced, I built one recently for a friend for 1k and it worked great.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373&SubCategory=636&fromcs=0&bcmTag=0&SortField=1&PageSize=10&Page=1

There's one with a 6700k for 1463.16 and one with a 6600k for 1,259.98.

 

[Tjj226 Angel]

Do you need a monitor? If not, here is my build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VhrvP6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VhrvP6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($364.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: A-Data 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1488.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-27 01:42 EST-0500

 

[Genkaz]

Does that CPU cooler fit inside of that case? Is it big enough? Adding rep to everyone by the way.

 

[DuckieHo]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel

Do you need a monitor? If not, here is my build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VhrvP6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VhrvP6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($364.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: A-Data 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1488.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-27 01:42 EST-0500

Use a cheaper and/or bigger SSD.... you can get a 256GB SSD for under $80 and won't be able to tell the real-world difference.
PSU is also bit bigger than necessary for the build.
If he isn't overclocking much, a Cooler Master 212 for $20 is quite fine for the task.

You can save $150 easily without affecting performance.

Based on the games, a MUCH cheaper older generation build may suit the task just fine.

 

[AcEsSalvation]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel

Do you need a monitor? If not, here is my build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VhrvP6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VhrvP6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($364.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: A-Data 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1488.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-27 01:42 EST-0500

Drop the PSU down to a 450W unit (or 550W depending on price).

My suggest list looks like this:



Unfortunately, my go to motherboard is marked up right now. My list also only shows links to BestBuy, Amazon, Newegg, or Microcenter. I haven't bought from any of those other stores before, but that's just my preference.
EDIT: Also no lists for W7 anymore... and I put in a 2TB HDD. Also feel free to swap out the case.

 

[Genkaz]

I feel that an i5 is not really enough when one is interested in being able to run everything current perfectly. Am I incorrect?

 

[DuckieHo]

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation

Drop the PSU down to a 450W unit (or 550W depending on price).

I would just throw in a SSD as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genkaz

I feel that an i5 is not really enough when one is interested in being able to run everything current perfectly. Am I incorrect?

All the games you mentioned should be easy on a overclocked i5.

Come back and we'll help you do that after you complete your build!

 

[Genkaz]

I feel that some proofing is a good idea, the titles above were just some of the possible examples. It would be kind of strange to buy an i5 and then have a title come out of nowhere that looks completely amazing and requires an i7.

 

[DuckieHo]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genkaz

I feel that some proofing is a good idea, the titles above were just some of the possible examples. It would be kind of strange to buy an i5 and then have a title come out of nowhere that looks completely amazing and requires an i7.

Doesn't really happen like that.... Game developers know if they create games that only 0.1% of installed user base can play is stupid. You will very rarely see games where the best possible available CPU is the recommendation. There are probably only a handful of those cases ever (Crysis, anyone?).

"i5" and "i7" are stupid marketing terms.....

An "i7" from two years ago can be slower than a current "i5".
An "i5" overclocked can usually beat an entry "i7" of the same generation.

 

[Genkaz]

That's not exactly what I meant, I was talking more about smooth fps and max settings. You make a good point but it's still interesting for me to know how an i5 holds up in that regard.

 

[AcEsSalvation]

Very few games (none you listed) can use more than 4 threads, so the i7 isn't really needed. Even if you pick up the i7, at 100% load across all 8 threads, you will see an increase of 25% in multithreaded performance. On single threaded, the efficiency would drop.

 

[Genkaz]

What about crap like the third witcher, planetside 2, or Shadow of Mordor/Dying Light/rainbow six siege? just to mention a few examples.

I do not know if those games work just fine with an i5 or if they require something beefier.

 

[Genkaz]

Oh, and also Arma III I guess, just to mention something else that comes off as substantial.

 

[AcEsSalvation]

I can attest to PlanetSide 2 working just fine on an i5. It's horribly dual threaded, with a third lightly used. Rainbow Six is via Ubisoft, so no more than 4 there...

Anyway, if you get an i7 for a game that uses 6 threads, you would see something around ~12% performance advantage over the i5 IF it evenly uses all 6 threads. Which... doesn't happen.

I7's aren't actually that much better than i5's for gaming. While some games can see benefits, it's not by that much, and it is up to you if it is worth the extra $

 

[Genkaz]

So basically the difference for gaming is pretty superficial for the most part?

 

[AcEsSalvation]

Correct.