Problem with OC'ing a Barton +2600

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Gumby

Discussion Starter · Feb 8, 2005

hey guys, im a total ****** when it comes to OCing, but alas. i must learn..

I'll start by stating my system.

Barton +2600
Asus A7N8X-X mobo
LedTek gforce 6800GT
Corsair XMS TwinX PC2700 (1gig)

now, my problem is whenever i go to change my FSB/Multiplyer in my bios, my video will cut out after i save my bios setting and restart. i'll get -no- video...

im a total ******, so i'm probably doing something wrong, if i could get one of you gurus to help me out, or preferably just tell me what to do. it would be a great help. my CPU runs at 50c full load... i don't want to OC it to an extreme, i just want a stable system thats mildly oc'd. same goes for my vidcard. if anyone could give me a hand i'd really appreteate it. thanks.

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Crashed

· #2 · Feb 8, 2005

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Originally Posted by Gumby
hey guys, im a total ****** when it comes to OCing, but alas. i must learn..

I'll start by stating my system.

Barton +2600
Asus A7N8X-X mobo
LedTek gforce 6800GT
Corsair XMS TwinX PC2700 (1gig)

now, my problem is whenever i go to change my FSB/Multiplyer in my bios, my video will cut out after i save my bios setting and restart. i'll get -no- video...

im a total ******, so i'm probably doing something wrong, if i could get one of you gurus to help me out, or preferably just tell me what to do. it would be a great help. my CPU runs at 50c full load... i don't want to OC it to an extreme, i just want a stable system thats mildly oc'd. same goes for my vidcard. if anyone could give me a hand i'd really appreteate it. thanks.

what PSU do you have? If it doesnt have much power you might wanna think about getting a new one. or maybe your vcore isnt high enough? what fsb/multis are you trying to run?

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Gumby

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 8, 2005

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Originally Posted by Crashed
what PSU do you have? If it doesnt have much power you might wanna think about getting a new one. or maybe your vcore isnt high enough? what fsb/multis are you trying to run?

460 Watt, high quality, cant remember the name but costed roughly 150$ for it. And i tryed to run 11.5x170 and it wont take, i havn't touched my Vcore at all, im kinda weary of touching it

gcraw5100

· #4 · Feb 8, 2005

if you can dont run a half multiply it slows down the system. could have something to do with the multiply if it is a destop proc. then it is probably locked. go back and set the multi to the defalt of the processor and defalt fsb and see if it starts ok, the go back into the bios and and change only the fsb one step higher and check the restart. if all else fails clear the cmos or set bios to load defalt settings.
you may have something other and fsb/multi set wrong.

Xavier1421

· #5 · Feb 8, 2005

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Originally Posted by Gumby

hey guys, im a total ****** when it comes to OCing, but alas. i must learn..

I'll start by stating my system.

Barton +2600
Asus A7N8X-X mobo
LedTek gforce 6800GT
Corsair XMS TwinX PC2700 (1gig)

now, my problem is whenever i go to change my FSB/Multiplyer in my bios, my video will cut out after i save my bios setting and restart. i'll get -no- video...

im a total ******, so i'm probably doing something wrong, if i could get one of you gurus to help me out, or preferably just tell me what to do. it would be a great help. my CPU runs at 50c full load... i don't want to OC it to an extreme, i just want a stable system thats mildly oc'd. same goes for my vidcard. if anyone could give me a hand i'd really appreteate it. thanks.

Gumby, welcome to the forums!

First, you're going to need to get a better cooler for your cpu...something along the lines of an SI-97 by thermalright, or a socket A zalman (do they make those?) or the oldie but goodie fallback, a thermaltake volcano. 50degC load is not when you want to start overclocking

BTW, most desktop processors are multiplier locked, you're stuck at the stock multi (unless you want to get into socket or pin-modding, but you said yourself you dont want to oc to the extreme)

Your twinX ram should be good for raising the FSB to close to the 200 range.

Refer to the AMD overclocking guide written by the AMD overclocking guru and super moderator= DeathONator. You can find the article here.
It will explain briefly but with enough information to get you started in the right direction.

There are 2 secrets when it comes to overclocking: keep it cool, and be patient.

You will most likely go through a couple steps or iterations before settling on a particular overclock, so don't expect to just set it and forget it.

When in doubt, use google.

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Phildog

· #6 · Feb 8, 2005

Turn your cpu clock ratio down. It's probably too high. Check your memory timing.

Crashed

· #7 · Feb 8, 2005

try running your system at 200fsbx11 and see what that does. That will take you to 2.2ghz (= to xp3200+)if that works.. increase your fsb a little bit at a time and until the comp becomes unstable.

Ge-Force

· #8 · Feb 8, 2005

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Originally Posted by Crashed
try running your system at 200fsbx11 and see what that does. That will take you to 2.2ghz (= to xp3200+)if that works.. increase your fsb a little bit at a time and until the comp becomes unstable.

He's got PC2700 ram.That won't boot.You may get it to boot at 200x10.5 but If it's locked,you can't drop the multi ,so no 10.5,so not much chance of much of a clock change is gonna be obtained without mods,better ram,or better cooling.

Sai_Jao

· #9 · Feb 8, 2005

u gonna haffa put more v thru either ram ,north or cpu to sustain the nu speeds also u will haffa loosen mem timings. there are many arcticles on this site to help new people to overclock - read them to grasp the basics

Crashed

· #10 · Feb 8, 2005

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Originally Posted by Ge-Force
He's got PC2700 ram.That won't boot.You may get it to boot at 200x10.5 but If it's locked,you can't drop the multi ,so no 10.5,so not much chance of much of a clock change is gonna be obtained without mods,better ram,or better cooling.

If he has good ram then it will run fine. I had at one time pc2700 in my comp that has a desktop 2500 barton and I bumped up the fsb to 200 with 1:1 ratio and it worked flawlessly.

Ge-Force

· #11 · Feb 8, 2005

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Originally Posted by Crashed

If he has good ram then it will run fine. I had at one time pc2700 in my comp that has a desktop 2500 barton and I bumped up the fsb to 200 with 1:1 ratio and it worked flawlessly.

Yes,the 2500 actually OCs better then the 2600's or any higher XP.You can feel quilty if he cooks his not so cheap ram by too much voltage triing to get it to boot,my warning is there.And,was your multi locked on your 2500+,prolly not! I HAVE a 2600+XP(Barton) Unlocked,in which im pretty familiar with it's capabilities.So if he can't change his multi,his CPU might boot at 200 by 11.5 but it wont be stable on stock cooling,and his ram will be very unstable and prolly bottlenecked due to heat production.He does not want to Super OC,he is not going to add massive cooling.His best bet is to sell the chip to a friend and buy himself a mobile 2500+.He should find out for sure if his CPU is locked or not.Boot normally into Bios reset defaults,save and exit.go back into bios set multi .5 lower and see if it boots. if it does,go back into bios and see if the settings you inputted held.If so the CPU is NOT locked.Also check for a CPU/DRAM ratio.set that to 6/5 and if you set the fsb to 200 the ram should stay at PC2700 speeds and you should get a successfull boot at 200x10.5(try for 11)while your ram is set at 166mhz(x2=333mhz)at a stock voltage of 1.65 volts Vcore.

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cl1986

· #12 · Feb 9, 2005

I had a 2600+ running quite well, i had it on my same nf7 board i have now. I believe it was a 333 bus. Does you board lock your agp when you up the fsb and multi?? In fact my old 2600+ wasnt much behind my 3200+ The 2500+ doesnt do that much better than the 2600+ i had. These are both xp im talking about not mobile.

My 3200+ wont overclock much at all, i know it aint the board.

Gumby

Discussion Starter · #13 · Feb 9, 2005

Sorry, forgot to state my cooling, duh. Running a Volcano 7, or 9... can't remember... useing artic silver 3 for thermal compound.

But i probably didn't mount the heatsink right if its considered running hot at 50c.

Any good recommendations for a heatsink ?

Sai_Jao

· #14 · Feb 9, 2005

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Originally Posted by Gumby

Sorry, forgot to state my cooling, duh. Running a Volcano 7, or 9... can't remember... useing artic silver 3 for thermal compound.

But i probably didn't mount the heatsink right if its considered running hot at 50c.

Any good recommendations for a heatsink ?

thermaltake SI97 and a YS-tech 92mm fan - the ultimate for socket A - will cost bout Â£33

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Kittani

· #15 · Feb 9, 2005

odds are the barton is multi super-locked... and unless he can lock the PCI/AGP bus he's better off nto O/Cing it at all.

Sai_Jao

· #16 · Feb 9, 2005

i have an unlocked xp-m hardly ever use multis, FSB gives greater performance and could use that to OC (if AGP/PCI is locked/settable)

Crashed

· #17 · Feb 9, 2005

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Originally Posted by Sai_Jao
i have an unlocked xp-m hardly ever use multis, FSB gives greater performance and could use that to OC (if AGP/PCI is locked/settable)

No S$*t Sherlock. but if someone has a mobile cpu and they have components that will hold back to higher fsb then they will need the multi to help the OC.

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