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<div style="font-style:italic;">That temperature on your cpu is WAYY to high. Which X1800 do u have? The X1800XT, X1800XL, or the X1800GTO? To respond to spooked, the X1800XT needs 32 amps</div>
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I believe I have the x1800 XL.
 

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its a bit better than the X1800GTO but it doesnt need as much power as the X1800XT and it doesnt create as much heat either. So i dont think the gpu's heat is the culprit b/c even with the stock fan at 100% it gets around 46C.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Did yuo try with the extra power connectore on the motherboard?</div>
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Yea, I just connected it. Not much seems to have changed.<br><br>
Since I downloaded SpeedFan, I'm pretty convinced this is some sort of CPU problem... because I watch the CPU usage bar and my CPU pretty much overloads when loading up guild wars and them temp goes up to 98 degrees.<br><br>
So here's where I'm at:<br><br>
-I don't have any thermal paste<br>
-I'm thinking about getting a new PSU to see if that fixes the problem<br>
-I found something VERY interesting in that WIndows SP2 article on the Microsoft site, it's a problem that applies to My exact processor and my exact version of windows: <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256#appliesto" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256#appliesto</a><br><br>
The problem with this ~ They want me to call WIndows support to get a 'hotfix' for this problem (which means paying), additionally, I don't even have a legit version of Windows!
 

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I dont believe its the PSU because the X1800XT needs a 450watt minimum and the X1800XL shouldnt use as much so u should be fine, but i dont know your amps on your 12v so u might have to. Is there a way to find out the amps on your 12v even though u cant see it?
 

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Missed your temp post. Yes, temps are the issue. 81C is way to high.<br><br>
You might cause damage at those temps. Make sure the heatsink is properly connected. Do order some thermal paste. AS5 is generally considered the best: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835100007" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100007</a><br><br><b>For now, don't do anything stressful with this rig; I'd recommend to keep it off even until you have those temps under control.</b><br><br>
Once you get the thermal paste, remove the heatsink; clean both the CPU and the heatsink with 99% alcohol; apply a little bit of AS5 (like the size of a grain of rice, on the center of the CPU), and re-install the heatsink. Make sure it is securely mounted.<br><br>
If you want to spend a litle more money, you might want to get a new CPU heatsink/cooler, like this one:<br><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835186134" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">-I don't have any thermal paste<br>
-I'm thinking about getting a new PSU to see if that fixes the problem<br>
-I found something VERY interesting in that WIndows SP2 article on the Microsoft site, it's a problem that applies to My exact processor and my exact version of windows: <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256#appliesto" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256#appliesto</a></div>
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No need to get a PSU at the moment. It's your CPU. It's throttling because of the high temps. High temps cause the CPU to slow down dramatically in an attempt to stay cool. If getting your CPU temps under control does not work, then you can always look fora PSU.<br><br>
The Microsoft article does not apply to you . You do NOT have dual CPUs. You have a Pentium 4 with hyperthreading. This reporst in Windows as two CPUs in the Task Manager, but that's just a trick. The MS article does only apply when you have two physical CPUs or a Dual Core CPU (Intel Pentium D, Intel Core 2 Duo, AMD X2, and some AMD Opterons.)
 

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Hey chozart, what are the avg. temps of the 630 with stock cooling?
 

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Prescotts do run hot, but he should stay below 60C load under any and all circumstances. I suspect the lack of thermal paste and/or an incorrectly mounted heatsink<br><br>
check if all four pins are fully pushed through the motherboard.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Missed your temp post. Yes, temps are the issue. 81C is way to high.</div>
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So you guys really think that the CPU overheating is my problem?<br><br>
What do you think of that article I showed you? It says in the article that the problem affects both my CPU and my version of Windows...<br><br>
First of all I'm going to phone around town to see if anyone has any AS5. I'll try and keep off any games for now. I hope I didn't damage my CPU. :S
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Prescotts do run hot, but he should stay below 60C load under any and all circumstances. I suspect the lack of thermal paste and/or an incorrectly mounted heatsink<br><br>
check if all four pins are fully pushed through the motherboard.</div>
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I sure hope you're right. I DO remember having trouble when i was putting on my heatsink, it wasn't going on easily. What the REAL ***** is... I bought AS5 when I first built my comp but I wasn't sure where to put it on. So I put it in a little box that's not 500 miles away (in storage). Ugh...
 

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Thanks everyone for your help, I have to go to work for now but I'll try and quickly get some Thermal paste and reconnect my heatsink and pray that it works. I'll report how everything went in about 7-8 hours. Thanks!
 

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I called and our local electronics store has thermal paste, but it's not Arctic Silver, it's a house brand... is that okay to get?
 

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it's worth a try at least, if yuo want a quick solution. AS5 is recommended given it's superior quality, but a 'house brand' is better than no paste at all. Go get it and try it.<br />
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Remember, just apply a little bit, and make sure that the heatsink is properly mounted. I do have a feeling that it's not mounted correctly.
 

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house brand is fine. I think you shoudl start with the cheapest thing which is the thermal paste. If that doesnt work move on to the power supply.
 

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And the cooling fan, if those temps still skyrocket. My steps would be:<br><br>
1) Thermal paste.<br>
2) If temps are good (<65C, or better , <60C), but problems persist, then PSU. If temps still high, new heatsink
 
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Hey guys, I'm back home and I have the thermal paste and %99.9 alchohol (my grandpa's moonshine) and I took my heat sink off to clean and apply the thermal paste, when I ran into 2 questions (problems?).<br />
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1. There is this gray rubbery stuff that was on the bottom of my heat sink and a bit of it stuck to the top of the CPU chip from melting I think. I cleaned it off the CPU chip but most of it is still on the bottom of the Heat Sink, what should I do? Take all the gray stuff off?<br />
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2. I'm not sure where to apply the thermal paste, because there are 2 areas I could apply it to. (a) In between the CPU chip and it's socket on the MoBo, or (b) on TOP of the CPU chip, which would be in between the heatsink and the CPU chip.<br />
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Please answer A.S.A.P. as I'm not sure what to do.
 

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Clean all the gray stuff off. <br />
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The thermal paste has to be applied on TOP of the CPU chip, which would be in between the heatsink and the CPU chip!<br />
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I do think your heatshink might not have been mounted correcty. Make sure all the four pins are pushed through all the way.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Hey guys, I'm back home and I have the thermal paste and %99.9 alchohol (my grandpa's moonshine) and I took my heat sink off to clean and apply the thermal paste, when I ran into 2 questions (problems?).<br />
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1. There is this gray rubbery stuff that was on the bottom of my heat sink and a bit of it stuck to the top of the CPU chip from melting I think. I cleaned it off the CPU chip but most of it is still on the bottom of the Heat Sink, what should I do? Take all the gray stuff off?<br />
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2. I'm not sure where to apply the thermal paste, because there are 2 areas I could apply it to. (a) In between the CPU chip and it's socket on the MoBo, or (b) on TOP of the CPU chip, which would be in between the heatsink and the CPU chip.<br />
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Please answer A.S.A.P. as I'm not sure what to do.</div>

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</div>yes remove the stuff from the bottom of the heatsink and the top of the cpu.. DO NOT APPLY BETWEEN CPU AND SOCKET.. but apply a small amount between the top of the cpu and the bottom of the heat sink.. basicly put a small pea sized drop or rice size drop on the middle of the cpu and place the heatsink into place..
 

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Well, i applied the thermal paste and cleaned out my heatsink, and the highest my CPU temperature has gone to is 73 (instead of 98), I think that was the problem because other than loading up, my games have pretty much no lag whatsoever. My heatsink is kind of crappy and I'll look at getting maybe liquid cooling or a better heatsink soon, because 73 is still kind of high (it averages about 65 during games).<br />
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All I can say is... THANK YOU ALL SO VERY VERY MUCH! I can't express how relieved I finally am to firgure out what the problem was! I'll recommend this site to everyone I know, because you guys are FAR more knowledgeable than all the other forums I tried. Again, thank you guys very much! <3 <3 <3<br />
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Special thanks to Chozart and SpookedJunglist for finally putting their finger on the souce of the problem! <3
 

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Glad you got it resolved <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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I do recommend a new heatsink, or possible watercooling. 73C is still a tad high for my taste, although it's TONS better than before!<br />
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Have fun gaming <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 

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Good job guys, another HAPPY CUSTOMER.<br />
Good luck with that setup and double check that the heatsink is mounted flush with the top of the cpu.<br />
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Thermal compound paste will eventually cure out and your temperatures should decrease a bit.<img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
 
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