| Here's what I do in 1v1s. It's baiscally all the same strat, I just improvise according to what the player is doing. Pylon at 8. Gateway at 14 (as gateway pops I send out scout probe) 2nd gateway at 16, then a pylon and 1 gas (sometimes I get gas sooner, but only by a few seconds.) Pump out 4 zealots, unless enemy is rushing, in which case I build 3rd gateway to pump more zealots to counter. Pylon Core at 24 and then pump out 4 stalkers Robotics bay as soon as core pops, and then 2 obs which one goes to base and one scouts all expansions. I either then go for colussus or void rays, depending on what enemy is doing. Then, it's all about microing your units better than his. I'll expand when I feel comfortable that I can counter his force, or at least hold him off. DTs are also a GREAT way to take out expos. Hit and run. |
Originally Posted by Ajax413  Your build really depends on what race your opponent is and what you scout your opponent doing. There's no "best" build order because that would just be no fun. You've got to read and react to your opponent. I'd recommend going over to Teamliquid.net and reading the strategy section. However, there is an optimal amount of gatherers. You essentially want constant probe production on your main until you reach full saturation and then even past it when you plan on expanding. 3 probes fully saturates a mineral field or vespene geyser and there's 8 mineral field and 2 geysers at your main, so 30 workers is full saturation. EDIT: I guess I should include a little of my build order, but this should not be a guide to every game. This is just a safe, standard build when playing against an opponent that's playing standard. 9 - Pylon 12 - Gateway 14 - Assimilator 16 - Pylon ~17 - Cyber Core ~19-20 - 2nd Assimilator It gets you 2 quick gas which P really needs to tech and you should be able to defend against any type of non-all-in push if you micro correctly. From there you can transition into any number of strats (2 gate robo, 3 gate robo, 2 gate stargate, 4 warp gate rush, 3 gate expand, etc.) EDIT 2: As far as rush v tech, it's really not best to think of the game as that black and white. If you see an opportunity to get a leg up on your opponent, take it, whether it be aggression or tech or expanding. Again, it's all about reading and reacting. 9 pylon is really ideal. You can time it to where you don't have to cut probe production at all and I believe with an 8 pylon there is a little window where you don't have probe production. Just a little thing but everything counts. A 14 gate really leaves you open to a lot of early rushes. It's really strong economically but if they do any sort of early aggression they can cripple you. Unless you're planning on doing some serious zealot aggression, most get the cyber core around 16-18 supply, depending on the opponent's tech. Delaying the core so much against T opens you up to reaper rush. If a T is reaper rushing me, they usually get the Reaper in my main at about 18-19 food, which means I've got to have a stalker out or halfway done by that point or he's going to get a ton more probe kills than he should. Delaying against Z leaves you open to a roach push because you'll only have zealots out to defend, and zealots get annihilated against roaches. Of course, it's also a good idea to get warp gate tech started as soon as possible. Not trying to mess with your build at all (if it works for you, then that's great), just saying what I've learned from some experience. |
Originally Posted by RushMore1205 Hey guys I would like some of your input on what the best 1v1 Protoss strategy? How many gatheres u build in the beegining? Is it better to rush or tech in 1v1? |
Originally Posted by poroboszcz It really depends on a matchup, map and what your opponent is doing, but the basic build is pretty much what Ajax413 described. You build pylon at 9, then send the probe to scout, then gateway at 12, 14 Gas, 16 pylon, 17 core, 20 gas. It is generally safe to add 2 more gates soon after that and then a chosen tech e.g. stargate or robotics facility. Regarding the probes you should pretty much make them constantly, i.e. your Nexus should be producing at least one probe at any given time. Once you get about 24 probes you should start thinking about expanding. Also starting at 10 food, once your pylon has finished building you should be constantly chronoboosting your nexus, unless you have a good reason not to, i.e. rushing to some tech or massing units. There is no one best 1v1 strategy and you should really learn from experience what works and what not and react to what your opponent is doing. It would be easier to give you advice if you could specify what are you having problems with, e.g. loosing to early zerglings or marauders, or doing bad in PvP midgame etc. The general tips are: - always produce workers - always spend all your money on units or buildings, e.g. try never have more then 500 minerals - scout as much as possible |
Originally Posted by poroboszcz - always produce workers - always spend all your money on units or buildings, e.g. try never have more then 500 minerals - scout as much as possible |
Originally Posted by zedex YouTube- Starcraft 2 Beta: Unbeatable Protoss 1v1 Strategy I am obviously not being serious here... =) |
