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From the "1984" files.....If you've been a gamer, then you've at some point seen an older sibling or parent purchase an M rated game for an underage kid. While this fuels the fire of anti-gaming zealots, now it might become illegal to do so.

According to Bill Hastings, lawbreakers would endure a $10,000 fine or up to three months of imprisonment.The idea here is to send a clear message that this type of behavior is not tolerated.

SOURCE->http://www.ps3center.net/news/2441/p...es-for-minors/
 

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??????

This makes no sense. Aren't parents supposed to decide this kinda thing for their kids? And now they are FORBIDDEN from making the decision? It's simply illegal now?

I always thought the idea was that kids wouldn't be able to get it on their own, and they'd need the parents' permission.

I guess video games are now on the same level of porn. You have to be 18+ to play them.
 

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The problem with this is that there are NO laws prohibiting the sale or use of M rated games by minors, heck the only reason retailers don't sell them to kids is to keep parents from getting mad at them, they are by no means required to do this. Plus, the ESRB is not even a government agency, they don't get to decide what is legal and what is not.
 

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there might not be no laws to enforce it or prohibit it, but parents ought to know what there kids should be playing and not to be playing if not maybe that ought to get a second outlook on life. I found this article off the esrb website check it out.

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Philosophy

After consulting a wide range of child development and academic experts, analyzing other rating systems and, most importantly, listening to parents, ESRB found that what consumers really wanted in a video game rating system was both age-based rating categories as well as concise, impartial information about what type of content is in the game. Parents felt strongly that a rating system should inform and suggest, not prohibit.

With this philosophy in mind, the ESRB created and implemented the first two-part rating system, which includes both a rating category to suggest age-appropriateness, as well as content descriptors to indicate what content may have triggered the rating and/or may be of interest or concern to the consumer. The result is a rating system that is universally adopted by the industry, supported by retailers and is consistently described by parents and opinion leaders as the best entertainment rating system in the US.
 

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hope they dont stop steam

thats were i have been getting my M fix from
 

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Thrown into prison next to serial-murderers and rapists for... selling a kid Fallout 3 ?



Any judge who does that should be tried and convicted themselves... for their tyrannical, dictator-like abuse of power.
 

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This is ridiculous! Governments around the world are making things that should be a matter of personal discression law. If parents want to buy their kids M rated games, so be it. Its not up to the governments how the children are raised - if they are worried about that they should pump money into social services and fix all the messed up families with druggie parents, not make useless legeslation that benefits nobody and takes away more personal freedom.

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Governments are trying to save money, why would you want to have to send your kid to boot camp or to a foster home or put the kid up for adoption b/c I bet some families do all b/c of a video game that caused the kid to go crazy? I would not want no kid to have to commit a crime and go to juvi, all b/c he was underage and did not understand the meaning of the rating and say I bought the game for him, and his age was not the right age, and he didnt understand the game right and went and killed like 50 people for example, and if he could of waited and the parent could of waited and got the game when he got old enough to know the meaning and be more mature it would of never happened.
 

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well that is the whole point of the esrb rating.
No it's not. It's there merely as a suggestion to parents to gauge how appropriate the content matter is for specific age groups. The decision is still up to the parents.
The ESRB can be a great tool for ignorant adults trying to decide what content their child should be exposed to, but an independent panel should not be given government approval to parent our kids for us. Sounds like some politician is jumping on the "family values" train and is trying to appear concerned for his constituents. This will never pass, you yanks value your liberty.


EDIT: Wait, Bill Hastings? Aussie censor? Is this an Australian law proposal?
 

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It's like how the government enforce people to wear their seatbelts. Some people think, heck if I want to lose my life in a car accident that's my problem, none of your business Big Brother, but the government enforces it and fines you if you don't. It's applying to video games now just like how they passed a law for buying cigarettes and booze for minors.
 

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He didnt understand the game right and went and killed like 50 people for example
If you actually believe that computer games make people go on murderous rampages, then you are wrong. A bad upbringing might make someone go on a murderous rampage, a drug problem might make someone go on a murderous rampage, a mental disorder might make someone go on a murderous rampage, but a GAME will not.

Sure, media will draw links between violent games and killing sprees - take for example the guy who locked himself in a 5x5 room cleaning his gun and playing GTA3 for two years straight then went and shot some people. Everybody blamed GTA's "realistic violence". But it is not the game that caused the shooting, its the mental condition that make him sit in a dark room playing it for two years straight.
 
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