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How did sony drop the ball with the PSP? Besides the DS taking all the sales, the PSP has been a great system with the most superior portable graphics.
 

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Originally Posted by NeueZiel

How did sony drop the ball with the PSP? Besides the DS taking all the sales, the PSP has been a great system with the most superior portable graphics.

LOL? Are you joking? It has a nice library of games too
Did you not hear about all the flaws at launch? And how sony passed them off as "It's supposed to be that way, the system is a form of art" or something to that effect. Not to mention all the dead pixel systems. The psp is a good system, just sony is a ****ty company with bad ethics imo
 

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How did sony drop the ball with the PSP? Besides the DS taking all the sales, the PSP has been a great system with the most superior portable graphics.

Who cares about how good something is if it doesnt sell.. Ive played one, its not really all that impressive. The "joystick" thing is pathetic and for games that need to use it I find it kind of hard to use it effectively.
 

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Who cares about how good something is if it doesnt sell.. Ive played one, its not really all that impressive. The "joystick" thing is pathetic and for games that need to use it I find it kind of hard to use it effectively.

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Its better than using a dpad when trying to navigate through a 3d world.

And yeah the PSP is better in respects of being more advanced. I don't care how many people bought the DS, in respects of power the PSP is better. And who cares if it doens't sell, it still has good games, which makes it, by most standards, good.
 

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How did sony drop the ball with the PSP? Besides the DS taking all the sales, the PSP has been a great system with the most superior portable graphics

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I didn't mean in terms of hardware. It's an awesome deal at $250, just look the prices of pocket pcs. It's definitely great technology wise and the ds doesn't come close in terms of graphics.

Unfortunetely the selection of games suxs. I have liberty city stories and I like it, but there has to be more good games. Sony has a vision for the psp as a jack of all trades media player. They should focus more on games. I think sony's reasoning was that a more mature audience isn't going to want something that just plays games on the go (which might be right) but the media capabilities are kinda half baked. I don't want to buy a UMD movie that I can only watch on the psp when I can just get a dvd and watch it at home and I'm not going to use a psp to listen to music.

It was nice to run homebrew games on it. I loved playing all the old snes games like donkey kong and mario. I like to upload anime episodes and watch them on the go, allthough I havent found much opportunity for that. The psp definitely has potential. Plus maybe we'll see some cool ways to link it up with the ps3.
 

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Its better than using a dpad when trying to navigate through a 3d world.

And yeah the PSP is better in respects of being more advanced. I don't care how many people bought the DS, in respects of power the PSP is better. And who cares if it doens't sell, it still has good games, which makes it, by most standards, good.

Im not impressed at all with the PSP. So you take crappy graphics and put them on a tiny little screen and all of the sudden theyre good?
 

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Im not impressed at all with the PSP. So you take crappy graphics and put them on a tiny little screen and all of the sudden theyre good?

Well good for a portable system...
 

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But I agree with gamer7, the PSP is a great idea and has a lot of potential, but I don't like the way Sony is doing it. It needs more games obviously, and it should have pretty much every PS2 title on it, with some new ones as well. The proprietary movie format just sucks, though it may have been a size thing more than a way for Sony to make more money. Hard to say though. The fact it can play music is pretty nice too, seems a lot more justifiable to me at least to spend $250 on something that can do more than play music and maybe look at pictures (iPod crap). If it had more games and Sony ditched the movie format, or at least made them cheaper I might get one (I might get one anyway depending on if I feel the need for portable system or not).
 

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Since the PSP doesnt really have any good games I find my iPod to be alot better since it holds tons of music, pictures and movies...and movies that you dont have to pay for.
 

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Since the PSP doesnt really have any good games I find my iPod to be alot better since it holds tons of music, pictures and movies...and movies that you dont have to pay for.

Yeah, but watching a movie on a screen the size of a cracker seems about pointless to me...
And there are ways you can get movies for the PSP without paying for them (it does use flash memory afterall), but we can't talk about those things here.
And who actually has 20-40GB of music? I mean I have less than 1GB, but I'm weird, but I seriously can't imagine a majority of people having more than 5GB of mp3s.
 

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Originally Posted by YiffyGriffy

Yeah, but watching a movie on a screen the size of a cracker seems about pointless to me...
And there are ways you can get movies for the PSP without paying for them (it does use flash memory afterall), but we can't talk about those things here.
And who actually has 20-40GB of music? I mean I have less than 1GB, but I'm weird, but I seriously can't imagine a majority of people having more than 5GB of mp3s.

I have a couple gigs of music and about 10 gigs of movies on my iPod...that would be alot of flash sticks...plus the screen has better resolution than you would think.
 

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All of the PSP vs. DS comments in the "360 better than PS3" thread have been moved here.

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LOL? Are you joking? It has a nice library of games too
Did you not hear about all the flaws at launch? And how sony passed them off as "It's supposed to be that way, the system is a form of art" or something to that effect. Not to mention all the dead pixel systems.

I think the PSP library is a small for this point in it's life, but the games are pretty good. I thoroughly enjoy the ones I have played, and I'm pretty picky.

The only real flaw was the supposedly non-working button issue. In my 9 months of PSP ownership, I have never experienced this particular problem; but since it is documented and real, Sony's attitude about it was definitely very bad.

Complaining about dead-pixels is odd, though. Dead pixels are a fact of life with LCD screens, they have been for years and years, long before the PSP existed. Not saying you should be happy about it, but it's not necessarily fair to blame Sony alone for what is an industry-wide "acceptable practice". (My PSP does have one dead pixel by the way, and it is such a non-issue. Totaly invisible during gameplay.)

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Ive played one, its not really all that impressive. The "joystick" thing is pathetic and for games that need to use it I find it kind of hard to use it effectively.

Well, it's more impressive than a DS. A PSP is much closer to a PS2 than the DS is to the GameCube, which is a fair comparison in my mind. The only things that the DS has going for it are non-technically impressive things, i.e. the originality of the dual-screen, and backwards compatibility with the GBA (which is sweet as heck, better than the touch screen to me).

The PSP joystick takes a little getting used to because it doesn't feel like a typical analog stick, but it's not hard to use after a while. I like it.

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Yeah, but watching a movie on a screen the size of a cracker seems about pointless to me...


Movies on the video iPod seem silly to me too. The PSP screen is about as small as I would want to go, and it actuaklly looks very good.

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And who actually has 20-40GB of music? I mean I have less than 1GB, but I'm weird, but I seriously can't imagine a majority of people having more than 5GB of mp3s.

I have something like 25GB of MP3s at this point. And most of them were ripped at 128kbps to save space!
 

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Originally Posted by NeueZiel

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Its better than using a dpad when trying to navigate through a 3d world.

And yeah the PSP is better in respects of being more advanced. I don't care how many people bought the DS, in respects of power the PSP is better. And who cares if it doens't sell, it still has good games, which makes it, by most standards, good.

that's subjective, as there aren't that MANY good games. Only games I would buy for it are gta and socom, and tbh, killing ho's and shooting cops is boring.
 

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What'd you expect, next gen graphics in a handheld? Just look at the mess of polygons the ds calls 3d.

Not true at all, the ds is capable of decent 3d, if you don't think mario 64 is decent 3d, die.
 

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Originally Posted by J3r3my

Since the PSP doesnt really have any good games I find my iPod to be alot better since it holds tons of music, pictures and movies...and movies that you dont have to pay for.

Qft. All apple has to do is make an ipod that can play games :withstupi

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I think the PSP library is a small for this point in it's life, but the games are pretty good. I thoroughly enjoy the ones I have played, and I'm pretty picky.

The only real flaw was the supposedly non-working button issue. In my 9 months of PSP ownership, I have never experienced this particular problem; but since it is documented and real, Sony's attitude about it was definitely very bad.

Complaining about dead-pixels is odd, though. Dead pixels are a fact of life with LCD screens, they have been for years and years, long before the PSP existed. Not saying you should be happy about it, but it's not necessarily fair to blame Sony alone for what is an industry-wide "acceptable practice". (My PSP does have one dead pixel by the way, and it is such a non-issue. Totaly invisible during gameplay.)

I'm not complaining about dead pixels, but rather their warranty stance, meanwhile nintendo has a 0 dead pixel policy. The button issue was an issue that occured with the japanese launch, sony took a "it's supposed to be that way" stance until people really started *****ing. Afaik, it was fixed before the US launch. Also, imo the DS is better suited to analog play due to the touch screen.
 

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In any case, im not impressed by all that power being in such a small device. If you take into consideration how tiny CPU's GPU are and RAM chips are than its easily possible to put them into something small, and with no need for a north bridge or anything else like that its possible to make it that small. Nintendo just decided to make it more affordable so it sold more, and Sony just tried to get into the handheld market and IMO failed pretty badly.. Considering they dont make a profit off of the PSP and its sold alot less than they would want it to. Maybe next-generation Sony will wisen-up on handhelds but for now and likely for as long as portable gaming exists will be king.
 

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Originally Posted by YiffyGriffy

Yeah, but watching a movie on a screen the size of a cracker seems about pointless to me...
And there are ways you can get movies for the PSP without paying for them (it does use flash memory afterall), but we can't talk about those things here.
And who actually has 20-40GB of music? I mean I have less than 1GB, but I'm weird, but I seriously can't imagine a majority of people having more than 5GB of mp3s.

I have 13.8gigs of non work related Music on my harddrive. And I think around 30gigs of music that is work related. Work related music ranges from Rock and roll all the way to native american Flute music.

That is not important though. I will delete this thread if it turns into a flame war please keep things as factual as possible. no Fanboyizms please.
 

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The psp is obviously on a another level in terms of graphics. The ds is somewhere between the snes and n64.

I played ridge racer on the psp and it looked great, then I tried playing ridge racer on the ds and it looked like someone threw up chunky potato soup on the screen.

Unfortunetely that makes no difference because little kids can afford the ds. I think once the price of the psp goes down the sales will go up considerably. It kinda pisses me off to see the psp losing to a toy, but then again nintendo knows what they're doing.
 
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