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Volker said that it would be "impossible to develop a new engine from the ground up in a two years cycle," adding, "What we do is we say, 'okay what are the things that are significant and that we would say that are encompassing of the engine or its visual quality? Are those being upgraded in a significant way? Alright, then I think that warrants that we've got a new engine on our hands'".


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They are improving what they currently have. Changes are so small that comparing MW to the last COD you cant see much difference. A new engine does not only change graphically but physically too. Because of that all CODs look and feel the same.
 

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To be honest it looks good, the dynamic lightning and the lightening flares are really good... The engine must be good or wasnt just used right for over these years
To say that Quake's engine is inferior would be just wrong. It's led to the development of so many newer games, all pushing the graphical abilities of what is possible. It's really kind of an amazement thing, as how long the engine has been around, yet STILL presses onward past what most people think is crazy. If not for Quake's engine, we'd probably still be playing games that look like Duke Nukem 3D.
 

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To be honest it looks good, the dynamic lightning and the lightening flares are really good... The engine must be good or wasnt just used right for over these years
To say that Quake's engine is inferior would be just wrong. It's led to the development of so many newer games, all pushing the graphical abilities of what is possible. It's really kind of an amazement thing, as how long the engine has been around, yet STILL presses onward past what most people think is crazy. If not for Quake's engine, we'd probably still be playing games that look like Duke Nukem 3D.
HEY! The world would still be a good place if everything looked like DN3D. Game ROCKS! but not nearly has hard as Doom II
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Obviously.

Wait... so this means that Call of Duty 10 is essentially using a tweaked idTech3 engine? From 1999?

So the engine is older than most COD players?
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Also it's entirely possible to make a new engine (or an insane upgrade) in 2 years; Cryengine 2 (Crysis) came out November 13th, 2007. The first version of Cryengine 3 was October 14th, 2009. That's 1 year, 11 months and 1 day, and we got:
DX11 (new render path)
Tesselation
Massively increased performance (1 million polies in CE2 caused epicly low FPS, CE3 it's no issue)
Irradiance
Real-Time GI (was baked in CE2)
Light volume (physical based sun-shafts rather than screen-based in CE2)
Massively improved particles (shadows, moblur, etc.)
Screen-space reflections (technically a cheat, but still)
Pixel-accurate POM (improved over screen-based in CE2)
SSDO (up from SSAO)
Deferred render (rather than forward rendering)
etc.

Meanwhile IW, with its near infinite money from CODXYZ can't managed to finally go to a new engine, and has to stick to one from 1999 because "its too hard" to make a new one.... Haaaaaa

What is PROBABLY is, is that they think the upgrade to 1080p will mean enough of a change that the CoD fans will be pleased. Why invest the extra money in actually making a new engine, when you could just increase profit margins by using what works.
 

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To be honest it looks good, the dynamic lightning and the lightening flares are really good... The engine must be good or wasnt just used right for over these years
Did you see the picture showing the fake sun rays? The engine is just using post processing to add fake effects.
 

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Honestly I'm a bit upset, however, if they can make a game look better while using an older engine then by all means go for it. It actually might give them time to make the game itself better as opposed to "It's the same stuff, but SHINER"

Plus, new games are put on old engines all the time, look at Source, it's still the same engine from 2004, just with upgrades. This might be in the same sort of boat
 

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Nothing surprising...

The thing that sucks about CoD is how little information they are willing to share about the PC platform release. Mark my words it will be mid-late October before we have any clue as to how they intend to handle servers.
 

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To be honest it looks good, the dynamic lightning and the lightening flares are really good... The engine must be good or wasnt just used right for over these years
To say that Quake's engine is inferior would be just wrong. It's led to the development of so many newer games, all pushing the graphical abilities of what is possible. It's really kind of an amazement thing, as how long the engine has been around, yet STILL presses onward past what most people think is crazy. If not for Quake's engine, we'd probably still be playing games that look like Duke Nukem 3D.
HEY! The world would still be a good place if everything looked like DN3D. Game ROCKS! but not nearly has hard as Doom II
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Don't get me wrong, I loved playing Duke3d and the Doom series, but the Quake engine has engineered so many new titles under the same engine that it should be stated that it's not the best engine just because it was one of the first FPS's, it's one of the best engines because simply what it has done for the entire realm of gaming.
 

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Not sure of i am correct but COD is one of the games that sell like crazy and makes tons of $ and they cant afford to make a new engine? What about the little guys?
 

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Does Nintendo secretly own IW? they have the same ideas of staying in the past and milking every penny they can out of low-end hardware/software.
Well Nintendo pushes their hardware for their main games. While IW doesn't for the systems they have their games on.
 

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Apparently, the sky's blue and the sun is hot
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More news at 11
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is there a chance of rain!!!!???? dont leave us hanging!! do i need an umbrella
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