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First and foremost, I am not sure if this is the right place to put this. As I do believe it is related to [email protected]<br><br>
So I have been talking this over with a few members of OCN and [email protected] Since dropbox has stop support for HTML files aka hosting static websites. There are few alternatives out that still allow you to use dropbox to host your HFM stats. I know that you can use FTP to host it but a good majority of users may not have a NAS (Network Attached Storage), website or any type of host to be able to do it.<br><br>
What my question is, what if there is a free (100% free) service/system that would allow you to host your HFM stats? The idea behind it, is to allow users to be able to sign up and get a limited FTP account that is intended for HFM only. From here, teams and other entities can group up the HFM stats of those users under one banner if they choose. Like with the TC, you could have all the guys from Brass Bottom Boys, Power Rangers, etc be listed.<br><br>
This by not means that it would be affiliated with OCN in any way. I just feel that is the place where I could express my idea and see if its worth working on. Plus who knows, maybe it might tie into the current automated system that <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/244656/axipher">@axipher</a> made.
 

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I like all this, I'll put my brain to it later.
 

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I am for this, we just need some mods to give opinions on this. <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/338453/lanofsong" style="display:inline-block;">@lanofsong</a> <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/244656/axipher">@axipher</a> <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/203321/PR-Imagery">@PR-Imagery</a>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mmonnin</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys#post_25924174"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
I just use dropbox on my phone and it still displays the HFM html page.</div>
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<div class="quote-block">Dropbox accounts created after October 4, 2012 won't have a Public folder. If you'd like to quickly share files you can use a shared link. Shared links work even if the person you're sharing with doesn't have a Dropbox account.<br><br>
Dropbox Basic (free) users<br><br>
As of March 15, 2017 the Public folder in your Dropbox account has been converted into a standard folder. By default this folder is private to your account. This transition will occur automatically.<br><br>
Here's what you need to know:<br><br>
All of the files in your Public folder will remain safe, but public links to those files will stop working<br>
If someone visits a link to a file in your Public folder, they'll see an error page<br>
To see a list of your public links, visit the Public folder—any file in this folder will have previously had a public link associated with it<br>
Dropbox can't convert existing public links into Dropbox shared links<br>
If you'd like to re-share any of the files in your Public folder, please use a shared folder or shared link<br>
Using the public folder to render HTML content<br><br>
As of October 3, 2016 Dropbox Basic (free) users can no longer use public links to render HTML content in a web browser. If you're a Basic user, and you created a website that directly displays HTML content from your Dropbox account, it will no longer render in the browser. The HTML content itself remains safe in Dropbox, and you can share it using any of our other sharing methods.<br><br>
Effective September 1, 2017, Dropbox Pro, Plus, and Business users will no longer be able to render HTML content, and the Public folder and its sharing functionality will be disabled. Until that date, Dropbox Pro, Plus, and Business users can continue to use public links to render HTML content.</div>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mmonnin</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys#post_25924316"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
I dont care if anyone else can't see it. <b><span style="font-size:24px;">I</span></b> still can. If I'm somewhere that doesn't have cell service I probably can't get to a webpage to view it via FTP or remotely fix it so who gives a flying duck.</div>
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Not trying to be hostile here. Once September roles around, if you try to view a page rendered in HTML. You will be prompted to download it or given an error message. As of right now, since I no longer pay for my dropbox account. I cant and nor can anyone else view HTML pages. I tried the mobile app as well since I didnt in the past, that gives me an error message when trying.<br><br>
I am sure there might be alternatives that might spring up to replace the feature that dropbox is removing.
 

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Hear me out. I have a drobo 5n with the ability to host stuff. I could just do a thing. Ftp server and all that.
 

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<a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/95615/Ryahn">@Ryahn</a> you should add your folding team name to your profile. I voted no for the mandatory HFM that BWG wanted years ago when I was the captain of the Fluffy Pink Ninjas but I am still open for improvements.
 

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h<a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/126284/hertz9753" style="display:inline-block;">@hertz9753</a> get on the discord u dork :p
 

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I'm to old for that. I would sound like a grumpy grandpa with a young voice. <img alt="lachen.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/lachen.gif">
 
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>hertz9753</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys#post_25924784"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
I'm to old for that. I would sound like a grumpy grandpa with a young voice. <img alt="lachen.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/lachen.gif"></div>
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Not really used for voice but I feel ya. As far the HFM site goes, it's not mandatory. It's more of an option to be available to use. There will be features available for teams to use it as well.
 

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I agree with everyone here. I don't think this should be mandatory at all, but if people use this, and we can have a Team overview for the TC, I think it could be a useful tool for Captains and Vice's to keep track of their teams.<br><br><br>
That being said, I think I need to look into setting up a powershell script that checks when my GPU for idle, and if it doesn't grab a WU within ~5 minutes, it reboots my computer..<br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys/10#post_25924784" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>hertz9753</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys/10#post_25924784"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
I'm to old for that. I would sound like a grumpy grandpa with a young voice. <img alt="lachen.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/lachen.gif"></div>
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At least you wouldn't sound like a grumpy grandpa with a crotchety voice <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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<p>HFM for team competition purposes is a very possible thing.  I haven't set up secure FTP servers in a while with user groups and what not, but could probably set up a FTP server on the current server running the TC stats site and allow people to upload their stats to that.  The major downside is abusing the system by continuously uploading stuff, or using it for the upload/download/transfer of copyrighted content, etc.</p>
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<p>We had at one point a central site that could link to all TC member's own HFM stats, and many teams had their own iFrames in the team threads linking their team member's HFM stats too.</p>
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<p>I could have a page setup up for each team that used the mobile version of HFM and displays it on a single page, but providing hosting for everyone's would be the harder part.</p>
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<p>An alternative could be using Google Drive, or OneDrive set up on everyone's machine and OCN could have a shared folder which sub-folders for each team member.  Each member sets HFM to just save their HTML site to that folder on their own PC, then it auto-syncs and my web server can use all those sub-folders to build a web site from as well.  You still have the downside of someone using the service for non [email protected] purposes or hogging all the space.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>axipher</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys#post_25925866"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
HFM for team competition purposes is a very possible thing.  I haven't set up secure FTP servers in a while with user groups and what not, but could probably set up a FTP server on the current server running the TC stats site and allow people to upload their stats to that.  The major downside is abusing the system by continuously uploading stuff, or using it for the upload/download/transfer of copyrighted content, etc.<br><br>
We had at one point a central site that could link to all TC member's own HFM stats, and many teams had their own iFrames in the team threads linking their team member's HFM stats too.<br><br>
I could have a page setup up for each team that used the mobile version of HFM and displays it on a single page, but providing hosting for everyone's would be the harder part.<br><br><br><br>
An alternative could be using Google Drive, or OneDrive set up on everyone's machine and OCN could have a shared folder which sub-folders for each team member.  Each member sets HFM to just save their HTML site to that folder on their own PC, then it auto-syncs and my web server can use all those sub-folders to build a web site from as well.  You still have the downside of someone using the service for non [email protected] purposes or hogging all the space.</div>
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With ProFTPd using virtual users and MySQL, it's doable. Also you can setup quotas and whitelists. This would only allow the files HFM produces and only allow a small amount.<br><br>
I setup a test server with all this and it works well. Also have apache setup with vhosts to allow subdomain to get directory
 

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With <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/95615/Ryahn">@Ryahn</a>'s help, and using my HFM installation as a test platform, it appears that we have a successful test up and running. <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Ryahn</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys/0_20#post_25926501"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br>
 
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>axipher</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys#post_25925866"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
HFM for team competition purposes is a very possible thing.  I haven't set up secure FTP servers in a while with user groups and what not, but could probably set up a FTP server on the current server running the TC stats site and allow people to upload their stats to that.  The major downside is abusing the system by continuously uploading stuff, or using it for the upload/download/transfer of copyrighted content, etc.<br><br>
We had at one point a central site that could link to all TC member's own HFM stats, and many teams had their own iFrames in the team threads linking their team member's HFM stats too.<br><br>
I could have a page setup up for each team that used the mobile version of HFM and displays it on a single page, but providing hosting for everyone's would be the harder part.<br><br><br><br>
An alternative could be using Google Drive, or OneDrive set up on everyone's machine and OCN could have a shared folder which sub-folders for each team member.  Each member sets HFM to just save their HTML site to that folder on their own PC, then it auto-syncs and my web server can use all those sub-folders to build a web site from as well.  You still have the downside of someone using the service for non [email protected] purposes or hogging all the space.</div>
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With ProFTPd using virtual users and MySQL, it's doable. Also you can setup quotas and whitelists. This would only allow the files HFM produces and only allow a small amount.<br><br>
I setup a test server with all this and it works well. Also have apache setup with vhosts to allow subdomain to get directory</div>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Simmons572</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys/0_20#post_25929160"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
With <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/95615/Ryahn">@Ryahn</a>'s help, and using my HFM installation as a test platform, it appears that we have a successful test up and running. <img alt="thumb.gif" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></div>
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<p>Well if you have a working method, we can definitely work to implement on the existing server hosting OCN's stats site so everything is together.</p>
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<p>Would you have to set up a virtual user for each folder?  Or would it make sense to just have one for each team or one for the team competition in general?</p>
 

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Well if you have a working method, we can definitely work to implement on the existing server hosting OCN's stats site so everything is together.<br><br>
Would you have to set up a virtual user for each folder?  Or would it make sense to just have one for each team or one for the team competition in general?</div>
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As of right now, it sets up a /home folder for each user. There is possibly a way to do virtual directories that could be used for each TC. I have to look into that aspect. Most if not all of the configuration can be done by PHP by using exec()
 

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Something I'd be interested in seeing a way to pick and choose what slots are being shown from the same directory.<br><br>
In other words, the current way that information is being shown, all 8 of my slots are being shown. However, if members of a TC team wanted to check how the entire team is doing, they would only need to see information for my TC slot.<br><br>
Is there a way to pick and choose slots from different users, and compile them on one webpage?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Simmons572</strong> <a href="/t/1625575/question-for-you-guys/10#post_25940403"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Something I'd be interested in seeing a way to pick and choose what slots are being shown from the same directory.<br><br>
In other words, the current way that information is being shown, all 8 of my slots are being shown. However, if members of a TC team wanted to check how the entire team is doing, they would only need to see information for my TC slot.<br><br>
Is there a way to pick and choose slots from different users, and compile them on one webpage?</div>
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Possibly. Since the HTML is well formatted, the only way is with regex and doing an array search. Also the slot would need to have a unique name to be able to be pulled properly.
 
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