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Between MOMO, Driving Force, and Driving Force EX, what would you choose? What is the difference between EX and non-EX Driving Force? I'm gonna be racing in some NFS:MW, GTR 2 and Toca 3, maybe even NFS:C when it comes out.
 

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I would say the MOMO, Logitech also just came out with a really really nice system the G25 its also 300 bucks but you get what you pay for.<br />
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The momo looks really nice. If I can't get the money for the g25 im gonna be going with the momo
 

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lol G25 is outa my price rang... I got between $50-$80 to spend, maybe a little over if it is worth it.<br />
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Edit: PS2 compatability is not needed, but a definate plus. Right now I'm liking that EX.<br />
Super Edit: Amazon has EX for $59 shipped Super Saver!
 

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I use a el cheapo Joy Stick that I bought 4 years ago, the Logitech WinMan Extreme, I think I paid $40, it works great for me and so far I'm going to black list number 1, which I started today, I'm yet to finish the 7 races and 5 or 7 milestones but everthing else I'm done with.<br />
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I tried the wheel once but I couldn't get it right, I think I like pushing buttong and using one hand for steering only.
 

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as a sim racing geek, do NOT get anything but the Driving Force <b>PRO, </b>Logitech Momo Racing or the G25<br />
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Momo has 270 degree rotation, and nice padle shifters, whereas the DFP (Driving Force Pro) has 900 degree rotation and Buttons on the back instead of paddles.<br />
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The G25 pwns both of those, but is a LOT more.<br />
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The Momo works (unofficially!) on the PS2, as does the G25 and the DFP (Dont be fooled, the DFP isn't "Designed" For GT4 or PS2, it's just a marketing deal!)<br />
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The DFP, Momo and G25 all have FFB and the DFP and Momo are the best wheels for under $300, they are ~$100. The G25 is the best wheel for under $500, after that your looking at some crazily priced Frex/Ecci/ACT Labs setups
 
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I find that if you use the driving force on a pc you dont get any forcefeedback. With the MOMO you will... (talking for pc)
 

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if you install the drivers, you do, if not, then im getting that and the EX confused!<br />
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Just a heads up... get the warranty...I've had 4 now and on every one the gas pedal develops an issue... It will stop reading full throttle after about 6 months<img src="/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" /> I bought mine at best buy and after the second one they made me prove there was a problem... Don't know why this happens but I'm sure since its it the pedal I use most I think it wears out the sensor <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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Note: They may have fixed this issue by now, my warranty wore out so I constantly have to adjust range in settings to half of the pedal being full throttle on this last one I have
 
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<div style="font-style:italic">Just a heads up... get the warranty...I've had 4 now and on every one the gas pedal develops an issue... It will stop reading full throttle after about 6 months<img src="/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" /> I bought mine at best buy and after the second one they made me prove there was a problem... Don't know why this happens but I'm sure since its it the pedal I use most I think it wears out the sensor <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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Note: They may have fixed this issue by now, my warranty wore out so I constantly have to adjust range in settings to half of the pedal being full throttle on this last one I have</div>

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</div>this happens with the Rev A pedals on the DFP and Momo, if you buy a new one you will get Rev B (either way it says Rev on the box) - Rev B's dont get this problem, thus it;s better to buy a new one!
 

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Well I modded the one I have now and it seems to be fine for now... Took sandpaper and shaved the stop on pedal down to allow more travel... BUT as soon as that quits qorking and get done with this upgrade I plan on getting a new one... Anyone seen anything about 900* wheels for pc... I know they have some for consoles and I haven't really looked into it that much but I just imagine the difference in the feel and play of a 900* wheel <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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Most of my friends can't get used to the small area of the current wheel and usually end up playing pinball then actually driving lol I'm used to how much of the wheel I have to use but would LOVE something with a broader range than the 360* the MOMO offers.<br />
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</div>i didnt have any drivers for my DFP... and you only get 180 deg rotation too....<br />
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well thats all i get, if you can point me in the direction of some drivers which allow force feedback and 900deg rotation you get cookies<br />
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persoanlly i would go with the DFP or the momo wheel if you plan to play on the computer<br />
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i have the DFP and i like it because of the stick shift and the massive amount of buttons which come in useful for GTR2 <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
 
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Momo does 270 degrees<br />
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I, like you, have a Rev A momo, pedal problems and all (was using an old wheel just for pedals, now i've bought some high-end pedals, they rock!), and although i want a 900 degree DFP, aparently you can't drift with them as the mechanics wont let you turn the wheel quick enough to counter steer, but aprently the G25 fixes it (can rotate 2.5x faster)<br />
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Ah... if only i wouldn't fritter money away on my pc...<br />
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EDIT - The main selling point of the DFP is the 900 degrees, you can get the drivers <a href="http://wingmanteam.com/latest_software/latest_soft_main.htm" target="_blank">here</a><br />
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Oh, and let me just show you something...<br />
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Momo Racing<br />
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DFP<br />
<img src="http://img.clubic.com/photo/00086040.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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G25<br />
<img src="http://www.playfeed.com/blogimages/logitech_g25.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Elusive "Momo Red" - Older version of the Momo, not as good<br />
<img src="http://z.about.com/d/nascar/1/0/0/1/momoforce.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Ordinary Driving Force (DO NOT TOUCH WITH A BARGE POLE!)<br />
<img src="http://media.gigex.com/misc/logitech_driving_force.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Driving Force EX (Rubbish, dont get it!)<br />
<img src="http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/7489.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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They look like this, no variation, dont be fooled by an incorrect label!
 
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Lol thats what I meant <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> You can't make a 270* wheel into a 900* because it will not go around a complete 3 times like your cars steering wheel. There is no driver fix since the wheels are NOT capable of it... You actually have to BUY a 900* wheel <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" /> I want one but haven't put much research into it since rig upgrade had to come first... BUT it is on the list <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> If anybody does know of one plz let me know <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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I know, but the DFP is 900 degrees, end of, the drivers can "make" it not rotate as far, and if you have a DFP that only goes x degrees then something is wrong, and installing the drivers will help
 

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OMG I love that DFP !!!! that is uber shweet!!! Drift would be important as I plan on getting Carbon on wednesday <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> I hope <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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Yeah sorry bout that...didn't know that DFP was 900 <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">OMG I love that DFP !!!! that is uber shweet!!! Drift would be important as I plan on getting Carbon on wednesday <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> I hope <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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</div>if you do want to drift, it seems lowering the rotation to 540 degrees (still double what the Momo does!) seems to fix it, although how you lower the rotation on a console i dont know<br />
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EDIT - If your dfp doesn't seem to work at 900 degrees, theres a key combo you need to press, lemme find it...<br />
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EDIT 2# - There is a thread on the DFP's problems, and the momos problems <a href="http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=572&highlight=" target="_blank">here</a>
 
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Thanks for the heads up <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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Off to work I go, I go, I go, I don't wanna!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" /> See yall this afternoon
 

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Done some more research into it...<br />
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Rev B pedals have metal bits where the Rev A's used flimsy plastic bits, and it appears the Red Momo used higher quality bits than the ordinary Momo, and could be classed as a better wheel.<br />
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Aparently the DFP "feels" of a higher quality, but i don't know, i've never used a DFP<br />
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EDIT - Time to write my first overclock.net FAQ!
 

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Ive been using a crusty old PS1 steering wheel with a PS1 to USB adaptor for a couple years, plays TOCA 2 and 3 great!<br />
I love the look of logitechs new offering, a bit pricey but you get wot you pay for I suppose!<br />
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I find that the NFS`s arent as good to play on a wheel, maybe its just me but they seem more of a `button mashing` game than driving.<br />
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I think I will have to save for the new logitech one!
 

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FAQ submitted - lets hope it gets approved!
 
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