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I recently got my MSI K9A Plat. set up, and am going for a RAID 0 or 0+1 configuration (havent decided yet) using 2 (or 3) WD Caviar RE16 320gb sata drives. I have no problem setting up the raid in bios or in the raid drive config utility that launches after post/before winxp setup starts. All the drivers that I have tried, ones included with the mb as well as several different ones downloaded from ATi and MSI and also DFI, ECS, ASUS (any board that uses the ati sb600 southy), tell me that the drivers are corrupt when trying to install them during winxp setup ('F6' press at setup start screen, then 'S' after all other drivers load).
Now, the drivers that MSI is telling me to use say AHCI8086 or something to that effect, of which the readme states that it is for an IDE-RAID. But I am setting up a SATA-RAID, which I would assume makes a huge difference. Thing is, the SATARAID folder included on the CD says its "Silicon Image Raid Controller". Will this controller still function to control the ATi SB600 chip? I CAN in fact get those drivers to load, but then afterwards, once I get to the setup screen where it says, "press enter to continue, F2 to repair windows" etc, etc. I press enter, and then it tells me it cannot find the/a hard drive(s). I know they are connected & powered right, the bios is detecting the RAID setup w/ both drives so thats not the issue. Does that mean that those drivers are NOT the correct ones?
There is also another folder named "SRAID64a". Which when I try to install those, it tells me is for AMD64/EM???(dont remember) which is what I have (x64 5200+). But as with the first set of drivers, xp setup will let me select to install them "Silicon Image 3x12 SATARAID control AMD64//Extended Mode Drivers", and then it tells me that the file is corrupt. I know for a fact that not every single version I have can be currupt, and I think this is its way of saying that that driver just isnt going to work. I know its not either of my 2 floppy drives damaging the files because according to MSI's forums, other ppl have had this exact problem with this board; asking for help, yet there is no answer to the problem offered anywhere on the site. Also, I've seen other sites saying that there are similar problems when setting up the SB600 for RAID on OTHER manufacturers boards, so it may not be the board itself, but a problem with the hardware/software of the ATI Southbridge

MSI tech support tells me that "those are the correct drivers, make sure they are on a good, formated floppy, in the root directory, and all will be well". I'm not an idiot, I've done this several dozen times to no avail. I have thought of calling MSI-tech, but figured I would ask around here first, as I dont have long-distance calling here at home, and would have to use precious cell-phone minutes for a call that I know will be very long. I have found an answer to almost every question I've ever had here at this site, and hope that the same shall hold true for this as well.

Anyone who can help me out here will have my never-ending thanks and devotion, I will seriously love you forever... much thanks in advance.

** I also posted this in the HDD section of the forum, to increase my chances of getting a valid/correct solution to the problem
 

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I recently got my MSI K9A Plat. set up, and am going for a RAID 0 or 0+1 configuration (havent decided yet) using 2 (or 3) WD Caviar RE16 320gb sata drives.

Can't do 0+1, since you'll need four drives for that at least.

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Now, the drivers that MSI is telling me to use say AHCI8086 or something to that effect, of which the readme states that it is for an IDE-RAID. But I am setting up a SATA-RAID, which I would assume makes a huge difference.

That should make a difference indeed, unless one and the same driver is used for both. I'm checking on this.

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Thing is, the SATARAID folder included on the CD says its "Silicon Image Raid Controller". Will this controller still function to control the ATi SB600 chip? I CAN in fact get those drivers to load, but then afterwards, once I get to the setup screen where it says, "press enter to continue, F2 to repair windows" etc, etc. I press enter, and then it tells me it cannot find the/a hard drive(s). I know they are connected & powered right, the bios is detecting the RAID setup w/ both drives so thats not the issue. Does that mean that those drivers are NOT the correct ones?

Those drivers are NOT the correct one. Your board as a secondary RAID controller controlled by a Silicom Image chip. Those drivers won't work for the southbridge controller.

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There is also another folder named "SRAID64a". Which when I try to install those, it tells me is for AMD64/EM???(dont remember) which is what I have (x64 5200+). But as with the first set of drivers, xp setup will let me select to install them "Silicon Image 3x12 SATARAID control AMD64//Extended Mode Drivers", and then it tells me that the file is corrupt.

Wrong drivers. Can only be used with Windows XP 64-bit. You're running Windows XP 32-bit.

Checking on drivers.... be back.

EDIT:
I downloaded this one:
ATI SB600 IDE RAID Driver - 2000/XP
http://us1.msi.com.tw/support/dvr_ex...ATA_Floppy.zip
(if you click the link, you'll see in the download pop up that they ARE SATA drivers... see name of the ZIP file also. Finally, according to the read me, they are AHCI compatible, which means... SATA).

This is the one that SHOULD work...
 

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Thanks Chozart... I had hoped that you'd drop by and lend your expertise... I'm pretty sure those are the same drivers that I had tried the first time, and had WinXP setup tell me the sys file was corrupt. But I'm going to move them to floppy and try it again. I'll let you know what happens, but I'd appreciate it if you stick with me on this... let me know if you find out anything else. Thanks bro..!

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Any luck?

Nope, same thing. It asks me which I want to install. Drivers for x86 or for x64. I choose the x64, it starts to read it and then pop, "the file /amd64/ahci8086.sys is corrupt". It then takes me back to the previous screen. I have since tried it with the .27 drivers as well, which were the original release for this chipset, to the same effect.

Also, I know now that you were absolutely right about the AHCI RAID being the right setup even though I'm using SATA drives. Tech support told me that AHCI was like "old IDE", and that it wouldnt work with SATA drives in RAID. BUT, in my bios, where its showing me my RAID array, it says "AHCI:RAID0 ARRAY1".

I dont know what to do anymore. Do you think I should contact ATI? I read on a review site last night, dont remember which, where they reviewed this mobo and tried to setup the same RAID setup as me with the same problem, and finally had it taken care of by drivers that ATI tech support sent to them.

Thanks for the help CZ. Keep on this with me, I'd appreciate it!
 

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Just for the fun of it... try x86


Otherwise, try these ones... They come from a huge 144MB file that was on your mobo's website... Seems like they're the same, but maybe not corrupt?
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/rvandev2/s...ip?uniq=a24fmg (I just hosted them there myself)

If that all does not work, time to contact ATI I guess
 

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tried them.

I contacted ATI by phone, and the guy led me to some exe files for the Xpress 200 chipset
so I have submitted a ticket to support to see if they can help. I think I was better able to describe the problem, and the exact files that I need to solve the problem. Hopefully I get an answer to this. I think in the mean time, I'm just going to run one drive, and hopefully sometime down the road I can get this setup. Or I may just wait until DFI gets me my Infinity board back, and just setup a RAID 0+1 array on that.

Again, I thank you for all your help CZ. Rep+ for you. Wish I could give you +10! Say a prayer for me tonight that I get working drivers!(if you do that sort of thing). Thanks again!
 

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OK, WHOA... the files that you gave me, for the first time... I got ONE of the selections to work. The x86 controller was NOT corrupt, and it DID detect the hard drives after hitting ENTER to continue to the WinXP setup. I have the drives formatting right now as I type this. I just hope that it wont cause any problems down the road, after or during formatting, or even once I get XP installed. I cant thank you enough... well not enough "yet", anyhow. I'll keep you posted on this though, I am tickled pink that I've gotten this far!

Also, I was wondering... Can you make several seperate partitions with a RAID0 setup just as if you were using one drive? I only ask this because I usually make a few seperate partitions(drives) for keeping all my stuff, and with that much space, I just thought it would be a good idea, although I didnt try it when formatting the drives. If I can, I have software for XP that I can use once the OS is installed. Thanks again CZ.
 

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Awesome, thanks again for all your help CZ... I totally appreciate it. Well, I feel extremely stupid about this whole problem now, but tell me if you can see where abouts I, and many others with this board, would be confused.

The folder that contains the RAID drivers x64 is named "AMD64" which would lead me to think that that folder has the drivers in it for AMD64 processors. Would you think that as well? Today I FINALLY recieved a reply from MSI tech support, and here is what they had to say...

Dear Customer,

Please be sure you have selected the x86 driver instead of x64 when installing XP if you are installing windows XP sp2 (32 bits) as you have described in your system info. You only need the x64 driver when you are installing the 64 bit version of XP. Your CPU has 64 bit capability but if you install 32 bit OS, you still need the 32 bit drivers (x86). x86 is just general term for 32 bit CPU architecture which both AMD and Intel were using.

Thanks for contacting MSI Tech Support Team USA!!

Now, I posted in reply that they need to change their included documentation or the name of the driver folder to better indicate this. How was I to know that? Or even worse, someone who is not even nearly as wise as me when it comes to computers and/or the setup and installation of such devices/drives. I was a bit rude I believe, but I think I got my point across.

Thanks again for your help Chozart... much appreciated!
 

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yeah, imagine that... thats why I love this site. Everyone gets thier questions answered as quickly as possible, and its a great site to make friends and show our rigs off. Thanks for all your help. You truly are a great addition to the Overclock.net family.
 
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