REAL Sandy Bridge vs. AMD Phenom benchmarks please ...

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dklimitless

Discussion Starter · Apr 4, 2011

Okay guys, in light of the ridiculous fanboy/girl-biased opinions on certain review sites etc. I've decided to start a thread based off/in answer to this one:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/981079-intel-really-superior-gaming-16.html#post12995625

The question basically is:

If you own a 2500K/2600K or anyone who owns a PhenomII x6/x4. Please post your CPU clocks, game/benchmark results, and GPU ( with clocks). In this format:

CPU: "Name", "Clock" (For AMD users, It'd be appreciated if you posted your NB clocks as well)

GPU: "Name", "Clock"

Motherboard: "Name"

RAM: "Brand", "Size", "Clocks", "Timings"

Game/Benchmarks tested with pics showing framerates. (Please be honest and don't post a screeenshot of your MAX fps, we want what you get on average)

Alright, let's start and find out the truth about the 2500k vs. phenom's once and for all....

EDIT:
For those asking about the kind of benchmark, its not too much of a big deal. ( Of course, we don't mean your framerate in Minecraft or Dangerous Dave). Dawn of war, Fifa, Crysis 1/2, BC2, etc. A wide range will be more realistic and definitely more useful. Thanks for your time everyone!

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ramenbuoy

· #2 · Apr 4, 2011

Very interested in this thread being unbiased, I am an LGA775er and I am looking to upgrade in the near future

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Boyboyd

· #3 · Apr 4, 2011

What kind of benchmarks would you want? I'm happy to participate.

dklimitless

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 4, 2011

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Originally Posted by ramenbuoy;12995852
Very interested in this thread being unbiased, I am an LGA775er and I am looking to upgrade in the near future

Yup, I hope this will go a long way to help people with upgrade plans in the near future.
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Originally Posted by Boyboyd;12995921
What kind of benchmarks would you want? I'm happy to participate.

Thanks for the response! Preferably (fairly intense) video game benchmarks since synthetic ones are well, synthetic but those will be fine too!

Thanks for the input

UnexplodedCow

· #5 · Apr 4, 2011

While being unbiased (with no fanboy or girl-biased attitudes, and yes, I had to say it that way...sounded silly) this is going to turn into a huge apples to oranges thing since motherboard chipset, actual motherboard design, RAM speeds, overclocking, and stability come into play. While I'd love to show what my sig rig can do, it's not going to compete with Sandy Bridge, I already know this. The CPU was pretty good when it debuted a year ago.

I do agree in seeing some averages in real world performance, especially in a stock clock, matching RAM speeds (timings), and as close as motherboards can be, with match GPUs, power supplies, cases, and heatsinks. Even then things will likely not turn out how anyone expects, wants, or even considered. Just some thought, but some standardization needs to be made. The other problem with that is finding what code may or may not be biased toward a specific CPU. In the past, Intel has had code optimized for its chips, with AMD falling a generation behind, particularly in SSE instruction versions. So, that would have to be considered, along with any other software potentials I can't think of right now (and I am in no way a programmer).

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dklimitless

Discussion Starter · #6 · Apr 4, 2011

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Originally Posted by UnexplodedCow;12996009
While being unbiased (with no fanboy or girl-biased attitudes, and yes, I had to say it that way...sounded silly) this is going to turn into a huge apples to oranges thing since motherboard chipset, actual motherboard design, RAM speeds, overclocking, and stability come into play. While I'd love to show what my sig rig can do, it's not going to compete with Sandy Bridge, I already know this. The CPU was pretty good when it debuted a year ago.

I do agree in seeing some averages in real world performance, especially in a stock clock, matching RAM speeds (timings), and as close as motherboards can be, with match GPUs, power supplies, cases, and heatsinks. Even then things will likely not turn out how anyone expects, wants, or even considered. Just some thought, but some standardization needs to be made. The other problem with that is finding what code may or may not be biased toward a specific CPU. In the past, Intel has had code optimized for its chips, with AMD falling a generation behind, particularly in SSE instruction versions. So, that would have to be considered, along with any other software potentials I can't think of right now (and I am in no way a programmer).

I agree wholeheartedly to what you said. I wanted to include details about RAM timings and motherboards as well and I think I'll do just that.
Yes, specific programs may have optimizations for certain CPU's and there's little we can do about that

. We will see varying results here depending on the build, BIOS versions, PSUs and so much more. However, I just want to provide all seekers with another place to check for real world results besides tomshardware and other sites.
Ultimately, I guess its the responsibility of the upgrader to inquire further about their build vs. those with similar builds.

I really hope people don't make this a matter of which is better, I just want us all to see what each one can do

(hmmm, maybe I should modify the opening thread... )
I'd really appreciate results from your rig if you can. Thanks!

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Iceman23

· #7 · Apr 4, 2011

If you can't draw concrete conclusions from the thousands of benchmarks out there already, nothing is going to help.

munaim1

· #8 · Apr 4, 2011

I'm also willing to participate. I have a few ss of my rig in a few benchmark including gaming benchmarks.

Redwoodz

· #9 · Apr 4, 2011

There is really only 1 reliable source you can go to for this kind of info,and that place is HWBOT.The reason is most of the reviews you see are not run under optimal settings.The hardware results info on HWBOT give you the opportunity to select a component,then view the top scores achieved with that hardware.So select "GTX 470" and scroll through the results.You will see the best each platform is available to achieve.That is the only scientifically valid comparison available.
http://hwbot.org/hardware.do

KBcobra

· #10 · Apr 4, 2011

OP what are you trying to prove? You will only be recreating the obvious.

Boyboyd

· #11 · Apr 4, 2011

Won't video game bechmarks be affected by GPUs more though?

BallaTheFeared

· #12 · Apr 4, 2011

Not if the cpu is holding them back *cough*.

BallaTheFeared

· #13 · Apr 4, 2011

Settings: i5-2500k @ 5Ghz, 2x GTX 470 SLI @ 850 core.

Vantage usage results:

CoP usage results:

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dklimitless

Discussion Starter · #14 · Apr 4, 2011

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Originally Posted by KBcobra;12996286
OP what are you trying to prove? You will only be recreating the obvious.

No no, not trying to prove a point. There are a few reasons why I started this thread:

1. Information/Actual comparisons for people who are trying to decide.
2. I hate it when someone yells "CPU xxx is x-times better than CPU xxx and then point us to a review site which lacks details about whether turbo was on/off, and can't be questioned directly about their setups and results.
3. I don't mean to start a war and if any moderator thinks the thread is unnecessary, I'm completely up for its removal.
4. All I want is people posting results from rigs they actually HAVE (and thus, can be referenced later and questioned more about their individual settings), not a rig we can't always verify. Frankly, I trust benchmarks and results from OCN members than most hardware review sites. There's just a lot more variety/generality here

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dklimitless

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 4, 2011

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Originally Posted by Redwoodz;12996284
There is really only 1 reliable source you can go to for this kind of info,and that place is HWBOT.The reason is most of the reviews you see are not run under optimal settings.The hardware results info on HWBOT give you the opportunity to select a component,then view the top scores achieved with that hardware.So select "GTX 470" and scroll through the results.You will see the best each platform is available to achieve.That is the only scientifically valid comparison available.
http://hwbot.org/hardware.do

Thanks for that!
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Originally Posted by Iceman23;12996185
If you can't draw concrete conclusions from the thousands of benchmarks out there already, nothing is going to help.

Maybe, Maybe not. I can't exactly ask all the review sites what BIOS versions, CPU revisions and specific settings they used. I can ask any OCN member who is kind enough to show his/her results....

tafkar

· #16 · Apr 4, 2011

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Originally Posted by Redwoodz;12996284
There is really only 1 reliable source you can go to for this kind of info,and that place is HWBOT.The reason is most of the reviews you see are not run under optimal settings.The hardware results info on HWBOT give you the opportunity to select a component,then view the top scores achieved with that hardware.So select "GTX 470" and scroll through the results.You will see the best each platform is available to achieve.That is the only scientifically valid comparison available.
http://hwbot.org/hardware.do

Better method than most, though relative market share would introduce a bias when you scroll through.

killeraxemannic

· #17 · Apr 4, 2011

I have one for cinnebench but you will have to take my word on it. I can get prof but it would not be for a few days.

AMD 1055T @ 4.0 CPU score = 7.03
Intel 2500k @ 4.5 CPU score = 7.06

My AMD NB freq is 2800mhz

This was from my roommate and I's testing from when he got his SB rig a week ago. I know this is not a game benchmark but this is all I have

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BallaTheFeared

· #18 · Apr 4, 2011

Add JC2:

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LearnIIBurn

· #19 · Apr 5, 2011

High resolution Denzel Washington wallpaper. Interesting.

Kirby1

· #20 · Apr 5, 2011

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Originally Posted by LearnIIBurn;13006780
High resolution Denzel Washington wallpaper. Interesting.

I guess u didnt see the movie. Was a really good movie.

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