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Over the last few days I've been doing a lot of research on Mechanical keyboards (mostly because I sold my computer, a laptop, and am forced to use an ultra-terrible mushy squishy ~$5 rubber dome keyboard I had laying around. It's awful.) Anyway, that's besides from the point.

I'm looking to find one with no click sound, probably the MX Cherry Browns. You can show me both full sized and tenkeyless boards, although I'm more interested in a full sized keyboard. I love the color grey and laser engraved keys (or blank, even). I like super simple keyboards that last a long time with NO GLOSS. Jeez, why do they put all this cheap stupid looking gloss on everything nowadays. Grey is awesome, again. English version.

You could also tell me what you think about the MX Cherry Reds vs. the Browns. I tried the Blacks in Frys (The Blacks are pretty much the only thing you can find in stores), and they didn't quite sit well with me, but maybe the lightness of the Reds I'll like, I don't know. Let me know your opinions.

And. Thank you!

Also, if you tell me about a keyboard, please let me know where I can purchase it, I'm in the U.S.

And. Thank you again!
 

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I apologize for asking, but why don't you want a clicky switch?

I'm only asking because some people don't want one because they don't like the ear-piercing sound that it has in some YouTube videos.
 

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Yep, I haven't heard it in real life, only Youtube. (I'd love to, though)

I share an office, so I figured it would be best to skip out on the clicky keyboards.
 

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Yep, I haven't heard it in real life, only Youtube. (I'd love to, though)

The click sound is like a relatively quiet retractable pen, and it's a satisfying sound for me and pleasing to hear (for me). Unfortunately, some of those YouTube videos make the clicks sound really high-pitched and very ear-piercing while others mask the click completely.

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I share an office, so I figured it would be best to skip out on the clicky keyboards.

I think I have to agree. However, I will say that I think the clacky sound of bottoming out is a little louder than the clicks of the Cherry MX Blues. Although, it is still a little bit of extra noise that still occurs even if you master not bottoming out.
 

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I really wish I could just try every switch type before I make my decision. NObody sells them. A Tigerdirect store I called said this: "Yeah, those are for business only, we don't sell them." Urgh, that made me quite annoyed.
 

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Do you do data entry in your office work and need a numpad? If not then I would recommend you to try a tenkeyless board. I was a bit nervous to do so at first because I thought I would miss the numpad's functionality but ever since I made the switch I have never looked back. It just feels so much better having your keyboard centered in with your body and with your monitor and it brings the mouse a lot closer in too, which DOES feel more comfortable.. IMO I also think it looks a lot cooler. I also found that I really did not need the numpad, after all.

What's your budget? A great MX Brown starter at $110 + shipping would be the Leopold FC200RT. Super minimalistic, no stupid gloss, and a very sturdy and well built keyboard. You can also order a blank "otaku" version with no key lettering from the same website, if that's what you wanted.

You should know that the tactility on cherry brown switches is very subtle. When typing normally, you are probably not going to be conscious of it. For me on my Leopold, the tactility feels like nothing more than friction when I type on it. Sometimes people want that "friction" to be gone; and that's what the reds are. The reds have the same lightness as the browns without the tactile bump.
 

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I really wish I could just try every switch type before I make my decision. NObody sells them. A Tigerdirect store I called said this: "Yeah, those are for business only, we don't sell them." Urgh, that made me quite annoyed.
Yeah, I know how you feel. So I think all I can recommend dong is the same thing I did: I watched dozens of YouTube videos dozens of times each, I kept re-reading the information about each Cherry MX switch, and I just kept thinking about it and talking about it every day for weeks. After a while, I started to notice that I was beginning to lean towards the Blues. After a few weeks of doing all that, I eventually found myself in love with the Blues and to this day I am still happy with my choices.

So I mean, you may have to go just go with whatever you think you'd like the most.
 

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I found that it's pretty hard to go wrong with the more common and mainstream switches as I've tried browns and blues and love both. Mech kb's retain a lot of their resale value so you if you don't like it you could just resell it online.
 

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I have tried blues, reds, and blacks. By what I hear, the browns are very similar to reds. Although, I would prefer no bump at all ... so I like the red switch. There aren't a lot of red switch boards available besides ebay. I think Chobo had a good recommendation the Leopold, that is a good choice for the price plus quality. You can find them at Elitekeyboards.com. They are going to be available soon, but aren't a full key pad.

I know you said you don't like glossy, but the glossy Das aren't cheap key boards. They are excellent quality full boards, which come in the brown, and blue. Also have the blank key option. I would recommend Das for the overall quality, and price. Plus they come in a full key pad for 135.

Those are two good options.
 

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While the Das boards are high quality, I have to agree: the high gloss finish would irritate me because they're magnets for dust and finger prints.
 

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While the Das boards are high quality, I have to agree: the high gloss finish would irritate me because they're magnets for dust and finger prints.
If they would have been available in a red switch, I would considered a Das. But, yeah the glossy finish is not ideal. I don't know why they make keyboards like that.
 

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If they would have been available in a red switch, I would considered a Das. But, yeah the glossy finish is not ideal. I don't know why they make keyboards like that.

Eye candy. :/

I had a Lycosa, and I admit that I liked the high gloss finish at first just because it looks sharp, but meh... I got sick of it being a magnet for dust and fingerprints. Although, that's not why I upgraded to the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO. No sir!
 

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I saw the Das keyboard... The gloss is the single #1 factor that I would never buy it.

For the Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Elite Mechanical (granted, I probably wouldn't buy the Elite version), what switches does it have?

The Leopold looks good, that might be what I go with. Still deciding. I found a company called Ducky Keyboards which look very promising, though I don't know where to purchase one, and if they have a tenkeyless version. What do you think is better, a Ducky Keyboard or the Leopold, or a Filco? My budget is about $150 or less.

I've used the Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard awhile now (before I sold my laptop, which had bluetooth. Now I have a desktop which doesn't have bluetooth, and I just want to try a mechanical keyboard out), and it's not too bad. It's a tenkeyless board, which I actually enjoyed using and do like the extra mousing space.

On the other hand, I really like using the num key pad when I can. But I do no data entry, so.. it's not really necessary. (thinking out loud here) I think you're right. I think I'm going to get a tenkeyless board. It'll be good. With the keyboard I'm using right now which has a num key pad, I find myself subconsciously angling the keyboard to the left in hope of getting my mouse more centered in front. It's kinda awkward.
 

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I saw the Das keyboard... The gloss is the single #1 factor that I would never buy it.

For the Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Elite Mechanical (granted, I probably wouldn't buy the Elite version), what switches does it have?

Both BlackWidow boards have the Cherry MX Blues in them, but they both a high gloss finish. Plus, there are better mechanical keyboards out there in the Ultimate's price range.

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The Leopold looks good, that might be what I go with. Still deciding. I found a company called Ducky Keyboards which look very promising, though I don't know where to purchase one, and if they have a tenkeyless version. What do you think is better, a Ducky Keyboard or the Leopold, or a Filco? My budget is about $150 or less.

I don't know anymore, but I think that any of these would be a very good choice.

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I've used the Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard awhile now (before I sold my laptop, which had bluetooth. Now I have a desktop which doesn't have bluetooth, and I just want to try a mechanical keyboard out), and it's not too bad. It's a tenkeyless board, which I actually enjoyed using and do like the extra mousing space.

On the other hand, I really like using the num key pad when I can. But I do no data entry, so.. it's not really necessary. (thinking out loud here) I think you're right. I think I'm going to get a tenkeyless board. It'll be good. With the keyboard I'm using right now which has a num key pad, I find myself subconsciously angling the keyboard to the left in hope of getting my mouse more centered in front. It's kinda awkward.

It's easier to just call it a keypad.


Anyway, it sounds to me like you're right that you'd be much happier with a tenkeyless!
 

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I saw the Das keyboard... The gloss is the single #1 factor that I would never buy it.

For the Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Elite Mechanical (granted, I probably wouldn't buy the Elite version), what switches does it have?

The Leopold looks good, that might be what I go with. Still deciding. I found a company called Ducky Keyboards which look very promising, though I don't know where to purchase one, and if they have a tenkeyless version. What do you think is better, a Ducky Keyboard or the Leopold, or a Filco? My budget is about $150 or less.

I've used the Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard awhile now (before I sold my laptop, which had bluetooth. Now I have a desktop which doesn't have bluetooth, and I just want to try a mechanical keyboard out), and it's not too bad. It's a tenkeyless board, which I actually enjoyed using and do like the extra mousing space.

On the other hand, I really like using the num key pad when I can. But I do no data entry, so.. it's not really necessary. (thinking out loud here) I think you're right. I think I'm going to get a tenkeyless board. It'll be good. With the keyboard I'm using right now which has a num key pad, I find myself subconsciously angling the keyboard to the left in hope of getting my mouse more centered in front. It's kinda awkward.


If you are worried about the gloss factor then it would make no sense to buy a BWU over a DAS. DAS > BWU easily in overall quality.
 

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Ahh, I didn't know the Black Widow was glossy, it was hard to tell.

xD Yeah, I'll call it a keypad from now on, haha.
 

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I have a Cherry G80-8200LPDUS for sale.

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), Cherry MX brown switches, NKRO, fullsize with 59 hardware-reprogrammable macro keys.
 

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I saw the Das keyboard... The gloss is the single #1 factor that I would never buy it.

For the Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Elite Mechanical (granted, I probably wouldn't buy the Elite version), what switches does it have?

The Leopold looks good, that might be what I go with. Still deciding. I found a company called Ducky Keyboards which look very promising, though I don't know where to purchase one, and if they have a tenkeyless version. What do you think is better, a Ducky Keyboard or the Leopold, or a Filco? My budget is about $150 or less.

I've used the Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard awhile now (before I sold my laptop, which had bluetooth. Now I have a desktop which doesn't have bluetooth, and I just want to try a mechanical keyboard out), and it's not too bad. It's a tenkeyless board, which I actually enjoyed using and do like the extra mousing space.

On the other hand, I really like using the num key pad when I can. But I do no data entry, so.. it's not really necessary. (thinking out loud here) I think you're right. I think I'm going to get a tenkeyless board. It'll be good. With the keyboard I'm using right now which has a num key pad, I find myself subconsciously angling the keyboard to the left in hope of getting my mouse more centered in front. It's kinda awkward.

I personally prefer the Filco brown over the Leopold brown. The Filco's switches are mounted on a plate which creates a crisper feel and stronger tactility as opposed to the Leopold, which has it's switches mounted on it's PCB. The Leopold does have better keycaps than the Filco though and offers a detachable USB cord, which I find very convenient. Both are very good in terms of build quality.

I can't offer any input on the Ducky boards since I've never touched one myself. I did read somewhere that they use cheaper quality parts than the Filco and the Leopold, but I do not know if that's actually true. AFAIK Ducky boards are also plate-mounted. They offer a tenkeyless version in their 1087 model.
 
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