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1) how on Earth could they prove you were mining vs benching/ gaming?

2) I don't think you can say that, I mean you didn't alter the card or its BIOS so good luck proving crypto mining...
 

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Probably vrm temps go through the roof with this card under heavy loads? Just like many cheaply designed AIB cards, they put all of their focus on the core but are completely oblivious to the overheating vrms ...
 

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Well... warranty is subjected to fair use of the product in the target market it was intended for.

If they can successfully prove that the product has been abused, they can void the warranty.
 

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It is a deterrant, yes.

More like a way of saying 'if we detect abnormal wear on your product, we might tell you where to shove it'.
 

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Im not sure id buy their most expensive 1060 to use for mining... Ichill X3 V2 isn't a cheap 1060.
 

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Originally Posted by Edge Of Pain View Post

It's like overclocking. They can't know.
Actually, if they wanted to they could easily put in a mechanism into the CPU or GPU itself to find out. It just depends on whether or not it's worth the cost of doing so.

Intel filed this patent: https://www.google.com/patents/US20150006971 and on Z170 board we started seeing a setting in the UEFi called "RSR" or "Reliability Stress Restrictor", and now i think some vendors called it "Residency State Regulation", seems to not be the same relisability stress restrictor mentioned in the patent, or it could be a very early model.
 

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Then why are you selling most of them to miners? Hmm? Straight from the factories, they never even get to retail channels to begin with.

Plus unenforceable even if somehow magically they convinced NV to add some hidden usage information that would show what the card was used for which in itself is probably borderline illegal.
 

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Then why are you selling most of them to miners? Hmm? Straight from the factories, they never even get to retail channels to begin with.

Plus unenforceable even if somehow magically they convinced NV to add some hidden usage information that would show what the card was used for which in itself is probably borderline illegal.
They want to sell to miners but not warranty those cards.
 

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Is this an excuse for them to weasel out from warranty claims? Like, what if your card blew up but you didn't mine, they say you did, how would you prove otherwise?
 

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Exspensive class action lawsuits would work well if could prove it and got enough customers together to move it forward. Bout all these corporations will understand threaten to bleed them dry then they'll change that tune quickly enough.
 

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how would that differentiate those who leave their gaming rigs 24/7 while under gaming load.....?
No game has ever been able to create a workload similar to synethics and mining, Mining causes an unrealistic workload on parts that were never intended to be hit that hard, Hence cards get RMa'd more due to it, An average card could live for 10 years under a gaming load with no issue, It is unlikely to last that long with mining, That being said mining does keep all parts at the same average temperature for longer as constant hot cold cycles caused by gaming can cause problems after 4-5 years.
 

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No game has ever been able to create a workload similar to synethics and mining, Mining causes an unrealistic workload on parts that were never intended to be hit that hard, Hence cards get RMa'd more due to it, An average card could live for 10 years under a gaming load with no issue, It is unlikely to last that long with mining, That being said mining does keep all parts at the same average temperature for longer as constant hot cold cycles caused by gaming can cause problems after 4-5 years.
A friend has 4 7970s that have been mining since the day they were bought in 2012.
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A lot of corvette owners are sueing GM because the car's overheat on the track, they are probably going to win the lawsuit...
 

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Nvidia could solve it by nerfing any form of mining via drivers , forcing mining on mining edition drivers only on the mining GPU editions.

They did to Geforces for workstation applications. See workstation performance in OpenGL vs Quadros,
 
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