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I recently purchased a gtx 460 and feeling that my cpu is bottle necking the mess out of it.

I want a new cpu but seeing as how my mobo is a little old and it came in a pre-build Gateway I'm scared of upgrading and i got a few questions. As of now I cannot overclock due to locked bios.

I would like to get a new mobo and cpu without replacing much, such as my ram.

Here are the specs to the pre-build gateway

http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/DX4200/1015576R/1015576Rcl2.shtml

Everything is the same other than the GPU and PSU.

I was thinking of getthing one of these mobos

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130275

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128455

and one of these cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103885

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103912

Also how exactly would i know if my ram is compatible with the mobos?

Im also aware that my windows OS might not work with the new mobos as well that they might not work with gateways case.

I am trying to keep the cost at about 200 and have a cpu that is just about right for my new GTX 460 (768mb version)

Thanks
 

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To be honest either of those upgrades according to what you have on your sig rig will not get rid of the so called bottle neck you think you are experiencing.

You may want to consider waiting just a bit for the amd bulldozer release and those will definitely be worth the wait and time.

The cpu you choose are subpar and when compared at stock performance to your current one it would be an upgrade but a downgrade. The motherboard choices are ok... but only awaiting their end of shelf life in a few months.
 

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So what exactly is holding my 460? And the only time it struggles is in cpu intensive games. Others than that it is beast.

Would u guys sugest a new mobo only then buy a new heatsink and overclock my CPU?
 

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If you have to use your memory (which is DDR2) that also means you have to use an AM2/AM2+ processor. If that is the case, the 940BE is the way to go. I have one. Love it. Super fast. Personally, the way my system runs (Blue Beast) I see absolutely no reason to upgrade to AM3/DDR3. The 940 will NOT bottle neck the 460! My goodness. I have mine oc'd to 3.7GHz and I'm running a GTX560 SuperClocked edition. It is a sweet set up.

So, that all said, if you don't plan on SLI'ing your 460 you have a lot of choices in mobos that only have one PCI-E x16 slot. If you want one with two of those... The look just got harder. Trust me, I've been searching this out, too and AM2+/DDR2 boards that are Crossfire/SLI compatible are really hard to find. It's "old" so manufacturers stop making them. If my mobo ever craps out I might be forced to upgrade to DDR3/AM3 if I want the option of SLI'ing my 570. When you look at boards there are two things to look for:
1.) It must be AM2+/DDR2 compatible.
2.) Try to find one that does NOT have onboard graphics. They probably don't exist, though. I like Gigabyte/ASUS boards. For the budget minded I like Biostar. I've never had a prob. with one of those. I try to stay away from MSi.

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If you have to use your memory (which is DDR2) that also means you have to use an AM2/AM2+ processor. If that is the case, the 940BE is the way to go. I have one. Love it. Super fast. Personally, the way my system runs (Blue Beast) I see absolutely no reason to upgrade to AM3/DDR3. The 940 will NOT bottle neck the 460! My goodness. I have mine oc'd to 3.7GHz and I'm running a GTX560 SuperClocked edition. It is a sweet set up.

So, that all said, if you don't plan on SLI'ing your 460 you have a lot of choices in mobos that only have one PCI-E x16 slot. If you want one with two of those... The look just got harder. Trust me, I've been searching this out, too and AM2+/DDR2 boards that are Crossfire/SLI compatible are really hard to find. It's "old" so manufacturers stop making them. If my mobo ever craps out I might be forced to upgrade to DDR3/AM3 if I want the option of SLI'ing my 570. When you look at boards there are two things to look for:
1.) It must be AM2+/DDR2 compatible.
2.) Try to find one that does NOT have onboard graphics. They probably don't exist, though. I like Gigabyte/ASUS boards. For the budget minded I like Biostar. I've never had a prob. with one of those. I try to stay away from MSi.

TG

Ohhh I see what you guys are saying now.

Thanks for clearing that up for me croSSeduP.

well the simplest way would be ideal for me. I will eventually build a new pc from scratch and just need something to make full use of my 460.

So if I just buy the Phenom II X4 940BE, wouldn't it be a problem?

will my mobo support 125w? also is there a way to see if a bios update added support for the cpu?

Ive seen other threads of people with this same mobo from gateway who have called gateway support and been told that they have no idea what is supported.

Ive also heard of people putting in a new cpu with no problems.
 

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I recently purchased a gtx 460 and feeling that my cpu is bottle necking the mess out of it.

I want a new cpu but seeing as how my mobo is a little old and it came in a pre-build Gateway I'm scared of upgrading and i got a few questions. As of now I cannot overclock due to locked bios.

I would like to get a new mobo and cpu without replacing much, such as my ram.

Here are the specs to the pre-build gateway

http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/DX42...5576Rcl2.shtml

Everything is the same other than the GPU and PSU.

I was thinking of getthing one of these mobos

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130275

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128455

and one of these cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103885

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103912

Also how exactly would i know if my ram is compatible with the mobos?

Im also aware that my windows OS might not work with the new mobos as well that they might not work with gateways case.

I am trying to keep the cost at about 200 and have a cpu that is just about right for my new GTX 460 (768mb version)

Thanks

I know you want to get out of this difficulty as simply as possible but you really need to start over beginning with a new case and PSU. Just buy one or two pieces at a time as you can afford and your problem will be solved. Sell the Gateway on Craig's List or eBay and be rid of it.
 

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I know you want to get out of this difficulty as simply as possible but you really need to start over beginning with a new case and PSU. Just buy one or two pieces at a time as you can afford and your problem will be solved. Sell the Gateway on Craig's List or eBay and be rid of it.


I know what you mean and i will eventually buy a new pc, but just wanted something to last me a few more months, maybe a little less than a year.

I mean even now, its perfect and it can play any game i want. I just wanted a cpu to be a little more on the lv of the gpu.
 
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