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RIAA resorts to dirty tatics, spy on a 10 year old girl

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A disabled single mother from Beaverton has filed a federal lawsuit against the Recording Industry Association of America, claiming that she is the victim of abusive legal tactics, threats and illegal spying as part of an overzealous campaign to crack down on music pirating.
The recording industry sued Tanya J. Andersen, 44, in 2005, accusing her of violating copyright laws by illegally downloading music onto her computer. Andersen claims in a suit she filed last week in U.S. District Court in Oregon that the recording industry refused to drop its case after its own expert supported her claims of innocence.
Instead, industry officials threatened to interrogate Andersen's 10-year-old daughter, Kylee, if she didn't pay thousands of dollars. The intimidation included attempts to contact Kylee directly. A woman claiming to be Kylee's grandmother called the girl's former elementary school inquiring about her attendance, according to Andersen's suit.

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RIAA resorts to dirty tatics

This is new?

RIAA is losing more and more of their methods in trying to find "pirates".
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she must have downloaded alot of music to have them go after her.
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Originally Posted by Twinnuke
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she must have downloaded alot of music to have them go after her.

Did you even read the article?
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So the industry started taking legal action against individual computer users it accuses of illegally downloading music -- 21,000 people since 2003.

Tanya Andersen was one of those people.

How did they even find out in the first place?
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Originally Posted by [FH415] LOKI
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How did they even find out in the first place?

What do you mean? Find out who the 21,000 were? If you meant that, the RIAA hires some company to log ips(I don't remember how exactly) and they use that to sue tons of people. Even if they didn't do it, they'll scare the money out of them and make it seem like the RIAA are the heroes. Sometimes the people being sued don't even have computers.

But thats just if thats what you asked. God I hate the riaa.
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It never ceases to amaze me, the level of stupidity that the RIAA can display. If they tried to talk to my 10-year old daughter I would sue them for everything I could get. And I would take it to every tabloid newspaper I could think of.
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Originally Posted by RickJS View Post
But thats just if thats what you asked. God I hate the riaa.
Yeah thats what i ment :]
Those guys are total *******s..
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Maybe the RIAA will kill itself then.
How she gets a lot out of this..
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Whats really bad about all this is the RIAA is doing all this for years now, and noone at all is doing anything about it except for the very few people who are standing up to them.

But if they stand up to them, and win in court, they will have to pay legal fees.(unless the court makes the riaa pay, which doesn't normally happen with them)
And if they stand up to them, and lose, they get the punishment and legal fees.
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The recording industry's expert finally confirmed that Andersen's computer had not been used to download music, but attorneys still demanded that she pay money before they would drop the case.

"They wanted it to appear publicly that they prevailed," the suit claims. "When Ms. Andersen declined to pay them, defendants stepped up their intimidation."

Two years after filing the lawsuit, the recording industry agreed to drop the case only if Andersen dropped her counter charges.

Andersen finally filed a motion forcing the recording industry to provide proof that she illegally downloaded music. Hours before the deadline to respond, the recording industry dropped its case.

Andersen continues to seek to recover her legal costs from the recording companies that sued her, according to her Washington-based attorney, Lory R. Lybeck.

Andersen filed a new suit in U.S. District Court in Oregon last week seeking additional damages from the Recording Industry Association of America, a trade group for recording industry companies that controls 90 percent of the music sold in the United States; the Settlement Support Center; and MediaSentry, a private investigation company that assists the recording industry..
You can bully a ton of people, but then one will stand up and hand you your arse. The RIAA is going to burn at least slightly for this.
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Originally Posted by RickJS View Post
Whats really bad about all this is the RIAA is doing all this for years now, and noone at all is doing anything about it except for the very few people who are standing up to them.

But if they stand up to them, and win in court, they will have to pay legal fees.(unless the court makes the riaa pay)
And if they stand up to them, and lose, they get the punishment and legal fees.
It really is a lose-lose situation.. I think a bunch of lawyers should just donate their time to try and do something about this..
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Originally Posted by MGX1016 View Post
It really is a lose-lose situation.. I think a bunch of lawyers should just donate their time to try and do something about this..
Lawyers, donate?



Nice one MGX.
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RIAA, ESRB, MPAA, they are all equally evil. They all equally break the law too. People need to sue them more!
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Originally Posted by MGX1016 View Post
It really is a lose-lose situation.. I think a bunch of lawyers should just donate their time to try and do something about this..
Actually I was on a site where there were lawyers doing this. I don't remember the link =[

offtopic: I'm watching the colbert report(though I hate it) and they're talking about C.I.A. documents where in the 70s they put LSD in american's food without them knowing.
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Originally Posted by RickJS View Post
Actually I was on a site where there were lawyers doing this. I don't remember the link =[

offtopic: I'm watching the colbert report(though I hate it) and they're talking about C.I.A. documents where in the 70s they put LSD in american's food without them knowing.
Lol reminds me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66uVHDEHzAc

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RIAA = FAILURE, they try so hard, but they are outnumbered, they have no way to catch the smallest margin of people, and they'll loose more money in court fees as soon as one person wins in a counter claim... they simply need to realize that downloading music, although it is illegal, is a right and privledge, and if you don't Download it you can still listen to it off of Myspace, artists websites, youtube, much, MTV, etc. They don't grasp how music is everywhere, but half or more is illegal
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Originally Posted by H3||scr3am View Post
RIAA = FAILURE, they try so hard, but they are outnumbered, they have no way to catch the smallest margin of people, and they'll loose more money in court fees as soon as one person wins in a counter claim... they simply need to realize that downloading music, although it is illegal, is a right and privledge, and if you don't Download it you can still listen to it off of Myspace, artists websites, youtube, much, MTV, etc. They don't grasp how music is everywhere, but half or more is illegal
Well, they going about it all wrong. I understand that its illegal. But they shouldnt be going after the people, but the sites where its downloaded.
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Originally Posted by RickJS View Post
Well, they going about it all wrong. I understand that its illegal. But they shouldnt be going after the people, but the sites where its downloaded.
But they're not going after the people who download, they're going after random people who don't download.
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