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I recently did a review on the Razer Ouroboros, which I initially loved, but it had some weird tracking issues when changing the DPI, so I returned it and went back to my Logitech G9 for a while. Then I started looking into newer mice, and I stumbled upon the Kone XTD.

I decided right away I wanted it, but I couldn't find it in stock ANYWHERE in the US, so when it finally went up on newegg, I jumped on it.

All of the pictures in this review will be hidden by spoilers to make the text easier to read!!

Lets get the easy stuff out of the way first:

The Kone XTD is an 8200dpi laser mouse by Roccat.

It has 2 AWESOME light channels down the side of it that allow custom LED colors, and different colors per profile

It uses an "Easy-Shift" button, effectively doubling the buttons on the mouse - I'll get into that more later

Nice, braided cabling

New scroll wheel that eliminates the issues with the Kone+ and original Kone

Now that that's all over, I'll start with:

PACKAGING

While it cant possibly compete with the Ouroboros packaging (see below), I still think the Kone XTD has awesome packaging in its own way.



Ok, so up first we have the box, obvuiously
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I think that the box is really cool. It's got a magneted down front flap, and its loaded with info. That info may be marketing mumbo-jumbo, but it's info nonetheless.

you can see from the picture that it talks about easy-shift, 8200dpi, LED lighting, and the "TDCU" I will get more in depth with the last one later.

some nice branding on the box, embossed and rubbery

The back of the box, also loaded with info

We open up the box to find the mouse itself!

We get the owners manual and quick-start guide included

The included weights:

All in all, I have no complaints about the packaging
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Now we can move on to:

THE MOUSE ITSELF

The Kone XTD is a right handed mouse, and it's VERY comfortable to hold. The coating is like a soft-touch rubber, but more smooth than grippy. However, I have had no issues lifting the mouse up off of the mat with my fingertips, or just holding on to it in general.

Unlike the Kone Pure, the XTD doesnt have a laser-etched logo, because the logo doesnt light up. The lights are in the two light channels running down the sides of the mouse

Here you can see the Left / Right mouse buttons, the button in front of the scroll wheel, the DPI up/down buttons behind the wheel, and the wheel itself. The button in front of the wheel can be programmed for any function, but it is very hard to reach, and would have preferred it to be moved under the thumb buttons and made into something similar to the sniper buttons found on many newer mice
Roccat has been pushing this "Titan 4-D Scroll Wheel" and I can say that while it is solid, there are a couple things I dont like as much as I could have. For one, the wheel took 2-3 days to really "loosen up." Until it did, it was extremely stiff and didnt turn very well. I can say it's all good now, but it shouldnt be so stiff out of the box. The big issue I have with the wheel is the clicking action of it.

The entire mouse uses Omron switches, which have great tactile and sound feedback, but I just cant say the same for the wheel button. It only depresses about 1mm, and it's very "mushy." I equate it to the difference between a membrane keyswitch and a mechanical keyswitch on a keyboard. I dont know if it's designed this way or if it's just my mouse, but that's my biggest issue with the wheel.

Aside from those issues, I really do love the wheel now that it's loosened up. The left and right tilt, which I had on my G9 by logitech, is much better on this mouse. It has great tactile feedback without being too hard to press. I love that I can program the tilts as 2 extra buttons, so for instance flicking it to the right in Borderlands 2 uses my special ability. Not a big deal to some, but the less I need my keyboard, the better.

Next up we have the right side of the mouse. nothing too interesting here, just the LED light strip.

The left side of the mouse is where things get interesting. You have the typical back/forward buttons, but they actually ARENT so typical.

Either button can be programmed as the "Easy-shift" button, which makes it act like the shift button on a keyboard, and effectively doubles the amount of buttons on the mouse. This is a really neat feature, but also annoying at times. I dont use it in ANY fps games, because the need to hit a second button bothers me, but its perfect for RTS, MMOs. The big issue is just using it in windows. By default, back and forward in web pages or explorer windows requires you to:

Hold down the button programmed to easy-shift (my back button / back by default) > click left button for back OR click right button for forward.

This took me a while to get used to and I'm still not 100% used to it. I didnt like it at all for web browsing, so I made a chrome profile to eliminate it. The problem is that NO OTHER BUTTON CAN BE THE EASY SHIFT BUTTON. Only the back or forward buttons. I WANT the feature, but i want it to be the - somewhat pointless - button in front of the scroll wheel. That way i still have the ability to make macros on the shifted keys. This issue really comes into play in explorer windows. I cant just add the explorer.exe to my chrome profile, because then I wont have the easy-shift ability in windows at all, even with chrome closed.

Overall, it's a nice feature when needed, somewhat annoying that we can't customize it further.

It's a little out of focus, but you get a nice branded Roccat USB plug

Very convenient for when you need to know which USB cable belongs to the mouse.

IN USE / LIGHTING

Using this mouse is a joy. Honestly, it's amazing. I's the closest I've come to matching the original G9 in terms of comfort, ease of setup, easy of use, and just straight up smooth tracking. I havent had a single problem with the tracking on this mouse, it's phenomenal. Even all the way up at 8200dpi, while a little out of control, it still tracks very smoothly. I typically sit on 1800dpi-2400dpi, but I have had to crank it up when using turrets in Far Cry 3 or BF3.

I prefer heavier mice, and the ability to customize the weight to my liking was a HUGE plus for me.
The mouse comes with four 5-gram weights. I'm currently using 2 of them, and the weight is perfect for me.
All you have to do is twist this cap to remove, and there are 4 spots to place the weights

The only thing I feel this mouse is missing is a dedicated sniper button, which cuts the DPI to a chosen value when pressed, and returns to normal when released. This feature was on my RAT7 and was great for sniping or precision work in photoshop or something.

This mouse gets around that with "Easy-Aim" - essentially the same thing but not in it's own dedicated button. Obviously, this takes over one of your buttons, whereas a dedicated button wouldnt. What I'd really love to see is (for my FPS game profile) the ability to change what the right click does. You CANNOT EDIT THE LEFT OR RIGHT CLICK FUNCTIONS, you can only edit their uses when in easy shift mode. This is my biggest gripe. The lack of a dedicated sniper button makes me want to be able to use the right click as easy aim. it makes sense, as every FPS game uses right click as aim. It'd be amazing to be able to overlay the easy-aim command onto right click, so that when I hold it down to aim, it ALSO cuts my DPI automatically...
Other than that, I dont have many more cons for the actual use of the mouse

For the lighting:

I LOVE IT. a ton of options it's great! I have a bunch of pics coming up right here:
One thing I want to say first: These shots dont even compare to how amazing it looks in person...my iPhone captures the ends of the light tubes really badly, making them a lot lighter than they really are (ex: the red you'll see below looks yellow at the ends, but its a nice, deep red in person)

I'm working on a video showing all of the effects such as "heartbeat" and "breathing" that will be up soon!

THE SOFTWARE

The software for the Kone is the best I've ever seen for a mouse. I've never seen so many options. While it is a little overwhelming at first, it's easy to get acclimated fast and change any setting you need, minus the one I mentioned above. The best part is that this mouse has onboard storage, meaning you set you mouse up, and you never have to install drivers again. Take it to a friends house, and all your profiles are loaded up for you.

Here's the main functions screen, where you can change scroll speed, tilt speed, and DPI settings

The next tab is the Button Management tab. This lets you change the functions on your buttons. The left panel is the normal functions, and the right panel is the functions when the Easy-Shift key is depressed. I'm currently in my "Chrome" profile, so I dont have Easy-Shift enabled. We also find the macro manager here. You can have a basic macro manager or an advanced version

Next up is the advanced control tab. It's here we find the TDCU I mentioned earlier. This is the "Tracking and Distance Control Unit" which analyzes your mousing surface, and lets you change the lift off distance. I have mine at extra low because when off, it actually tracks from a decent distance off the pad. We also have sound effects. The software will speak to you when changing DPI/profile, or any of the items you have checked off occur. I turned off profile switching, because I use the lights to know when I change profiles, and having a chrome profile gets annoying because it speaks whenever I minimize haha
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Next is the Color Management tab. We can chose from a variety of colors, one color for each corner, and some neat lighting effects. Once again, look for my effects video shortly, I'll update this with that when it's done.

They also have an "Achievement" system

Finally we have the update/suppot tab. This is where you get your firmware updates / software updates

Throughout it all, you can see the profiles section along the bottom. You can have 5 profiles, each of which can be assigned to 3 different applications. For example, I can make an RTS profile that links to Dawn of War, Starcraft II, and Company of Heroes, so that profile will work when any of those games are running. It's very helpful.
The profiles can be renamed, and the 4 colored dots next to them represent the colors chosen for the corners of the mouse that will be active when using that profile.

OVERALL

This mouse is really a joy to use, and I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a great laser mouse. I have been flamed over the optical vs. laser thing a few times, so please just don't in the comments below. I like laser, that's that.

PROS:

-TDCU
-Weight/Feel
-Adjustable weight
-Scroll Wheel is very solid
-Lighting is amazing
-Sensor is very smooth, and to me it feels very accurate
-Ability to tilt the wheel
-Omron Switches: Very responsive, and very tactile
-The option for 8200dpi
-Easy-Shift/Easy-Aim
-Everything about the software
-Onboard memory

CONS

-Scroll Wheel click feels "mushy"
-No dedicated sniper button
-Not a TON of colors to choose from
-Easy-Shift takes a while to adjust to
-Inability to change left/right click functions

I would rate this mouse 9.75/10 overall
 

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huh. it looks like a fingertip. but then again, i used the deathadder with a fingertip grip and i am pretty sure it is a palm mouse.

i cant seem to find a mouse that is comfortable for me ever since i swore off deathadders, and even that one wasnt perfect. I tried the g9x for a couple years, still cant stand it. Just got the Logitech g700 and it is even worse, but i should have known that. it is a full blown palm mouse.
 

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i mean, this is definitely VERY comfortable. Same basic shape as a Kone, so if you have a store nearby that carries a kone (microcenter, etc.) I'd go feel it first
 

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I get mine tomorrow how will you say it is for palm grip users?
 

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It's better for palm than any other style IMO.

You're set
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Thanks my Razer Imperator 4G is broken and have been for a while and now i am just so fed up with it so i ordered a Kone XTD but i really sould have tried seeing how well my hand fitted the mouse before i bought it

PS i have big hands and long fingers so its very hard to find a mouse i can palm grip my fingers are longet then the Razer Imperator 4G
 

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I just got this mouse and so far its amazing for the first time i have a mouse i can palm grip with out my fingers sticking over the end of the mouse

Got my Roccat Kone XTD today looks like this with the LED´s in red (might be hard to see)



 

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I HIGHLY recommend this mouse. Been using Razer products for years (the Mamba most recently). I have fairly small hands and the Mamba seemed like the perfect fit. I was wrong, it was riddled with problems + Razers horrible CS. I've been using the XTD for a day now and it took me about 10 minutes to get completely use to. It's seriously the best mouse I've ever used. So many features, fits my hand perfectly and looks amazing (not to mention exceptionally built).
 

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I HIGHLY recommend this mouse. Been using Razer products for years (the Mamba most recently). I have fairly small hands and the Mamba seemed like the perfect fit. I was wrong, it was riddled with problems + Razers horrible CS. I've been using the XTD for a day now and it took me about 10 minutes to get completely use to. It's seriously the best mouse I've ever used. So many features, fits my hand perfectly and looks amazing (not to mention exceptionally built).
If you have small hands and use a palm grip, try the Kone Pure. Should give you a little more control, as it should be a better fit to your hand size. (I dont recommend small hands in combination with big mice and always would suggest mice slightly smaller than a complete relaxed palm grip for the plus in control.)
 

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If you have small hands and use a palm grip, try the Kone Pure. Should give you a little more control, as it should be a better fit to your hand size. (I dont recommend small hands in combination with big mice and always would suggest mice slightly smaller than a complete relaxed palm grip for the plus in control.)
I did, the kone was too small. I use fingertip grip, not claw grip. I'm not a midget either
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(P.S. my hand fit's it PERFECT for palm, but I don't use it).
 

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thats my same combo. great KB, but at the price, you may have been better off with the corsair K70. brand new, aluminum build, and individual backlighting
 

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Great review, had this mouse for 4 or 5 months now replacing Rat 7, preceeded by g9x. This is by far the best and coolest mouse I've ever used. My 3 year old niece insists on seeing it every time she visits hahaha that's how cool it looks!

The way it automatically switches profiles when you launch game etc is flawless... I hated having to chance an alt-tab in game to manually switch profiles on the RAT 7. It also reads and displays an image of the surface it's on and calibrates accordingly. Fantastic for bf3, hawken, skyrim, crysis, mass effect.

Only mouse that tops the g9x for comfort and durability imo
 
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