[MikeD]

This mouse looks promising, anyone got more detailed info about the sensor?
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The Lua's advanced Pro Optic R2 sensor features a choice of seven DPI settings - 250, 500, 1000, 1250, 1500, 1750 and 2000 - so gamers can play with accuracy at the speed that matches their style. It also has a dedicated DPI button that lets players easily change speeds in the heat of battle. Gamers can even program the button to switch only between the DPI settings they use most.

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Thanks to its perfectly-balanced, ambidextrous V-shaped design, the Lua delivers supreme comfort to both left- and right-handers. Plus, it features No Sweat side grips that ensure a steady hold even when the action gets hot - as well as a soft touch surface that lets gamers play comfortably even during extended sessions.

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The Lua's ultra-precise 2D scroll wheel also lets gamers give every wheel command with absolute precision. Every incremental step locks securely into place, so users won't have to worry above overscrolling.

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And last, but certainly not least, the Lua is built mega-tough and state-of-the-art using only the highest-quality materials and most advanced technology. From its premium electronics - featuring Omron switches and cutting-edge encoder - to its PTFE feet that deliver low-friction gliding, everything on the Lua is built to last and designed to give players a competitive edge.

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The ROCCAT Lua will hit shelves internationally July / August 2012 for a MSRP of €29.99.

 

[Vikhr]

Judging by the CPI steps it's probably the ADNS-3050.

 

[Skylit]

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Originally Posted by Vikhr

Judging by the CPI steps it's probably the ADNS-3050.

Yep. Pretty decent choice of materials as well (at price point).

 

[DeMS]

Looks like a competitor to the Abyssus... With an inferior sensor.

It would've been epic with a proper 3090 implementation.

By the way, what happened with the Savu? It had angle snapping so no one dared to review it?

 

[NuFon]

Is it just me or does the arc in the back seem too steep? Maybe it's just a bad picture angle as they obviously tried to make it look good for marketing.

 

[viowastaken]

ZzZz imo. Even if it had the 3090, by then(august) the new CM Storm Recon will be released and probably BST's mouse too. That's two 3090 mice in what appears to be better shells, for my tastes at least.

 

[MikeD]

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Originally Posted by viowastaken

ZzZz imo. Even if it had the 3090, by then(august) the new CM Storm Recon will be released and probably BST's mouse too. That's two 3090 mice in what appears to be better shells, for my tastes at least.

BST's will use the ADNS-3050 to, according to his thread at ESR.

 

[Skylit]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeMS

Looks like a competitor to the Abyssus... With an inferior sensor.
It would've been epic with a proper 3090 implementation.
By the way, what happened with the Savu? It had angle snapping so no one dared to review it?

Abyssus has some good hardware for its market price. Would have been a killer if Razer avoided the cheap route with that outdated microcontroler and used a simular or rather same cypress model in the DA. (Least most of the issues would have been fixed via flash assuming proper electronics implementation)

I believe the Savu has angle snapping disabled.. (or maybe there's two separate SROM's, idk)
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Originally Posted by viowastaken

ZzZz imo. Even if it had the 3090, by then(august) the new CM Storm Recon will be released and probably BST's mouse too. That's two 3090 mice in what appears to be better shells, for my tastes at least.

Two different market segments. This is targeting the low end ;o

 

[end0rphine]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeMS

Looks like a competitor to the Abyssus... With an inferior sensor.
It would've been epic with a proper 3090 implementation.
By the way, what happened with the Savu? It had angle snapping so no one dared to review it?

No angle snapping and decent PCS. Everything we expected from a 3090 incl. high lift off.

 

[viowastaken]

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Originally Posted by Skylit

Abyssus has some good hardware for its market price. Would have been a killer if Razer avoided the cheap route with that outdated microcontroler and used a simular or rather same cypress model in the DA. (Least most of the issues would have been fixed via flash assuming proper electronics implementation)
I believe the Savu has angle snapping disabled.. (or maybe there's two separate SROM's, idk)
Two different market segments. This is targeting the low end ;o

Spawns are what, 40-45 at the cheapest places, and Bst's mouse was estimated to cost around 40 too. I didn't think those 10 dollars would be a big enough jump to be considered the low-end market segment. I'd call the abyssus the king of that one, at $20 shipped.

 

[DeMS]

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Originally Posted by MikeD

BST's will use the ADNS-3050 to, according to his thread at ESR.

bst's mouse might use both sensors, but afaik he might use 3090 only.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skylit

Abyssus has some good hardware for its market price. Would have been a killer if Razer avoided the cheap route with that outdated microcontroler and used a simular or rather same cypress model in the DA. (Least most of the issues would have been fixed via flash assuming proper electronics implementation)
I believe the Savu has angle snapping disabled.. (or maybe there's two separate SROM's, idk)
Two different market segments. This is targeting the low end ;o

Abyssus has :
Awesome sensor, awesome lens, just good MCU (it's not bad at all, I prefer it over Cypress one on performance/feeling, but if it could be flashed it would make it awesome as jitter could be corrected on older samples), small shape, very lightweight carcass.

Too thin mouseskates, bad design of the feet area (it's narrower than the rest of the mouse, so it can be tilted very easily), weird design of the main buttons (makes the pinky actuate M2 sometimes).

For a mid-end mouse it would be great. Considering at the price it can be purchased, and if one uses hard mousepads, the price/performance ratio is over the clouds. But it is not mid-end, but rather low-end. There, it's a steal.

I'll look into the Savu.
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Originally Posted by end0rphine

No angle snapping and decent PCS. Everything we expected from a 3090 incl. high lift off.

Sounds good, except for the price. 60€ is too much to ask for a "basic" Roccat mouse. Might gift it to myself later this month, if I lose patience waiting for the Recon or bst's mouse, we'll see.

 

[Skar]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeMS

Looks like a competitor to the Abyssus... With an inferior sensor.
It would've been epic with a proper 3090 implementation.
By the way, what happened with the Savu? It had angle snapping so no one dared to review it?

Savu does not have angle snapping.

 

[S.M.]

As a WMO user, I don't want to buy that mouse. The Kova+ seems to be more like the WMO than this.

Still waiting for anyone to release a 75g mouse.

 

[viowastaken]

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Originally Posted by S.M.

As a WMO user, I don't want to buy that mouse. The Kova+ seems to be more like the WMO than this.
Still waiting for anyone to release a 75g mouse.

the kova + has prediction though. If this mouse doesnt It'd definitely be better imo

 

[Skar]

Lua has no prediction.

 

[Cek]

looks pretty good imo

 

[yashau]

I'm skeptical about Roccat's build quality. The Kone and Kova definitely suffer from bad design not sure about this.

 

[kaingosu]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeMS

By the way, what happened with the Savu? It had angle snapping so no one dared to review it?

3+ m/s, medium prediction, 2.5 CD lift off and awsome build quality
Quote:

Originally Posted by end0rphine

No angle snapping and decent PCS. Everything we expected from a 3090 incl. high lift off.

I wouldn't call this no angle snapping.

 

[end0rphine]

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Originally Posted by kaingosu

3+ m/s, medium prediction, 2.5 CD lift off and awsome build quality

I wouldn't call this no angle snapping.

Roccat Savu


Deathadder


Well I guess deathadder has prediction too.

 

[kaingosu]

It does if you compare it with MLT04. I've been playing with 3.0 for several months now and i can notice a small difference in tracking quality, obviously negligible. But with speeds over 3 m/s the 3090 is no doubt a better sensor. I wonder how the MLT would perform with a higher LOD or a different setup.