Saw that video when it came out. I don't agree, not at all. Bait? Zen3 is to Zen1, as Zen1 is to Excavator/Piledriver.
wait wait what?, in this video our motherboard x370 get better points on Cinebench single and multiple task 🤔
I found that PLL bumped to 1.9 just did the trick to be able to train memory. Even booted at 2000fclk, but sure, not stable. Won't even bother, I will just stick to 3600mhz low latency. Now I'm getting into curve optimize.Hey folks, I'm having trouble getting 5800x3d to boot on my c6h, it stuck at code 07 which seems to mean cannot train the RAM.
I've tried 3600x and 5900x with the exact same setup and in both cases they boot without any problem.
My RAM is Corsair vengeance lpx DDR4 CMK16GX4M2B3200C16
8GB x 2
BIOS is 8503, cleared CMOS and reflash, didn't help.
Is this because of 5800x3d being more picky about RAM or is it because of BIOS support?
Dude, I jumped from a 1800x to a 3800x in 2019 and now to the 5800x3d. Going from 1800x to 3800x the difference was absurd, from boot to response when opening programs and playing games. Everything was more responsive. And look, I used the 1800x at 4ghz with IF at 1600 and RAM at 3200 cl14.
At todays prices though getting a Zen3 that you hold on to for say 18-24m is a worthwhile upgrade even for the thrifty user. Hear me out.The only argument you could make for keeping your Zen CPU, if you are going to be an early adopter for AM5 and DDR5, which will be really expensive and likely buggy in the beginning. But if you're keen to switch over at the end of the year, or early next year, waiting would be the better option.
That's what pissed me off so much regarding TR4.First generation of Zen is literally the worst. Especially single core speed. Not trying to criticize it, but it just is. It was new and paved the way for better ones, it was a necessary step but it aged badly. Zen+ you can make an argument for. But Zen2 is where it started getting really good. Especially if you got a 3700X or 3950X, both really efficient chips, although the 3950X was quite expensive and never went down in price (new). Zen 3.. there's a decent frequency and IPC increase as said above. Some improved efficiency in terms of power usage. Easily the best single core speeds. And when the current cost is factored in, a 5950X or 5900X is easily better than the Zen 2 equivalent. And the 5800X3D is great if gaming at 1080p is your priority. Actually lesser performance in workloads than 5800X though, so there's that.
To be honest.. anyone trying to recommend keeping original Zen chips.. it's just mind boggling. Even Zen+ is hard to advise that. Zen 2 you can make an argument, but Zen 2 really is where it's at. Especially if you find a B2 stepping for a good price. The only argument you could make for keeping your Zen CPU, if you are going to be an early adopter for AM5 and DDR5, which will be really expensive and likely buggy in the beginning. But if you're keen to switch over at the end of the year, or early next year, waiting would be the better option.
It really depends on your use case. 5950X or 5900X if you care about encoding or other all core workloads. 5800X for gaming with the highest clocks and decent workload performance. 5800X3D if you are about gaming only. 5700X or 5600X for budget gaming for low price budget system. There's nothing "bait" about the 5800X3D, it's just that it sacrifices clock speeds and all core performance for raw gaming performance due to the extra cache. In some games it's a huge difference, up to 30% increase. Also really impressive 1% lows. Other games, very little difference. But overall around 15% improvement at 1080p with a high end video card. Even if you don't have a high GPU now.. the CPU will allow you to upgrade in the future and not have the CPU be the bottleneck.
Hello man, do you have any news to share regarding new flare X not working on 8503 bios?Thanks for the input guys! Will wait a little bit more until the prices for the new CPU models are dropping again.
I already purchased a new pair of 16 gb (2 * 8 gb) Flare X Memory (F4-3200C14D-16GFX) but unfortunately I'm getting problems. The original pair of Flare X (batch October 2018) works just fine, all four DIMMs together won't boot (error code 0d). I already updated the BIOS to 8503 (same errors occur even with the 8101), cleared CMOS, etc.
If I try to boot the new pair (batch April 2022) alone the system won't boot either. This drives me nuts. Isn't the Flare-X-Series suppose to work perfectly with AMD Ryzen CPUs? The only way I can boot is with the original pair.
Feedback is very welcome.