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@VnnAmed This was written based on older BIOS and Ryzen Master versions, but the principle should still be the same. I can't confirm because I don't have my 2700X anymore though so if you have any questions give me a shout.


The biggest difference from when I first wrote that is that you can now use BIOS to change EDC values while using PE 3 whereas when I first wrote it you could only use Ryzen Master in BIOS.

The benefit to that method is that you achieve the same all-core speed (without downclocking) during all workloads and still maintain the ability to clock higher during fewer-core and single-core workloads.

Edit:
You can also use a negative offset on the CPU voltage with that method. You'll have to play with it to determine what's stable for you.
 

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Hi is there a post here somewhere with settings that should be changed for manual OC? I know that I could go through the thread but it's 606 pages right now and you know... I dont have a week.
So does someone have a post saved with things that should be changed?

I have 2700x BTW.

Also here are my current settings
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[2020/09/19 12:51:21]
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
eCLK Mode [Synchronous mode]
BCLK Frequency [100.0000]
BCLK_Divider [Auto]
Performance Enhancer [Auto]
CPU Core Ratio [41.25]
Performance Bias [Auto]
Memory Frequency [DDR4-3400MHz]
Core Performance Boost [Disabled]
SMT Mode [Enabled]
TPU [Keep Current Settings]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Auto]
Max CPU Boost Clock Override [Auto]
Platform Thermal Throttle Limit [Auto]
TRC_EOM [Auto]
TRTP_EOM [Auto]
TRRS_S_EOM [Auto]
TRRS_L_EOM [Auto]
TWTR_EOM [Auto]
TWTR_L_EOM [Auto]
TWCL_EOM [Auto]
TWR_EOM [Auto]
TFAW_EOM [Auto]
TRCT_EOM [Auto]
TREFI_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_DD_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SD_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SC_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SCDLR_EOM [Auto]
TRDRD_SCL_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_DD_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SD_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SC_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SCDLR_EOM [Auto]
TWRWR_SCL_EOM [Auto]
TWRRD_EOM [Auto]
TRDWR_EOM [Auto]
TWRRD_SCDLR_EOM [Auto]
Mem Over Clock Fail Count [Auto]
DRAM CAS# Latency [16]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [18]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [16]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [16]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [34]
Trc [56]
TrrdS [6]
TrrdL [6]
Tfaw [24]
TwtrS [4]
TwtrL [12]
Twr [24]
Trcpage [Auto]
TrdrdScl [4]
TwrwrScl [4]
Trfc [544]
Trfc2 [Auto]
Trfc4 [Auto]
Tcwl [16]
Trtp [10]
Trdwr [8]
Twrrd [1]
TwrwrSc [1]
TwrwrSd [7]
TwrwrDd [7]
TrdrdSc [1]
TrdrdSd [5]
TrdrdDd [5]
Tcke [1]
ProcODT [53.3 ohm]
Cmd2T [1T]
Gear Down Mode [Enabled]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
RttNom [RZQ/7]
RttWr [Dynamic ODT Off]
RttPark [RZQ/5]
MemAddrCmdSetup [Auto]
MemCsOdtSetup [Auto]
MemCkeSetup [Auto]
MemCadBusClkDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusCsOdtDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusCkeDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
CPU Load-line Calibration [Auto]
CPU Current Capability [140%]
CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Manual]
CPU Voltage Frequency [500]
CPU Power Duty Control [Extreme]
CPU Power Phase Control [Power Phase Response]
Manual Adjustment [Ultra Fast]
CPU Power Thermal Control [120]
VDDSOC Load-line Calibration [Auto]
VDDSOC Current Capability [140%]
VDDSOC Switching Frequency [Manual]
Fixed VDDSOC Switching Frequency(KHz) [500]
VDDSOC Phase Control [Power Phase Response]
Manual Adjustment [Ultra Fast]
DRAM Current Capability [130%]
DRAM Power Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Switching Frequency [Manual]
Fixed DRAM Switching Frequency(KHz) [500]
DRAM VBoot Voltage [1.35000]
VTTDDR Voltage [Auto]
VPP_MEM Voltage [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
VDDP Voltage [Auto]
1.8V Standby Voltage [Auto]
CPU 3.3v AUX [Auto]
2.5V SB Voltage [Auto]
DRAM R1 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R2 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R3 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R4 Tune [Auto]
PCIE Tune R1 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R2 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R3 [Auto]
PLL Tune R1 [Auto]
PLL reference voltage [Auto]
T Offset [Auto]
Sense MI Skew [Auto]
Sense MI Offset [Auto]
Promontory presence [Auto]
Clock Amplitude [Auto]
CLDO VDDP voltage [Auto]
CPU Core Voltage [Manual mode]
- CPU Core Voltage Override [1.28125]
CPU SOC Voltage [Manual mode]
- VDDSOC Voltage Override [1.09375]
DRAM Voltage [1.35000]
1.8V PLL Voltage [Auto]
1.05V SB Voltage [Auto]
Firmware TPM [Disable]
Erase fTPM NV for factory reset [Enabled]
PSS Support [Auto]
SVM Mode [Disabled]
Onboard LED [Enabled]
Q-Code LED Function [Enabled]
SATA Port Enable [Enabled]
SATA Mode [RAID]
NVMe RAID mode [Disabled]
SMART Self Test [Enabled]
HD Audio Controller [Enabled]
M.2_2 PCIe Bandwidth Configuration [Auto]
PCIEX16/X8_1 Mode [Auto]
PCIEX8/X4_2 Mode [Auto]
PCIEX4_3 Mode [Auto]
M.2_1 Link Mode [Auto]
M.2_2 Link Mode [Auto]
SB Link Mode [Auto]
Asmedia USB 3.1 Controller [Enabled]
USB Type C Power Switch [Auto]
When system is in working state [On]
When system is in sleep, hibernate or soft off states [On]
Intel LAN Controller [Enabled]
Intel LAN OPROM [Disabled]
ErP Ready [Disabled]
Restore On AC Power Loss [Power Off]
Power On By PCI-E/PCI [Disabled]
Power On By RTC [Disabled]
Network Stack [Disabled]
Device [N\A]
Legacy USB Support [Enabled]
XHCI Hand-off [Enabled]
U31G2_EC3 [Enabled]
U31G2_EA2 [Enabled]
U31G2_E1 [Enabled]
U31G1_1 [Enabled]
U31G1_2 [Enabled]
U31G1_3 [Enabled]
U31G1_4 [Enabled]
U31G1_5 [Enabled]
U31G1_6 [Enabled]
U31G1_7 [Enabled]
U31G1_8 [Enabled]
U31G1_9 [Enabled]
U31G1_10 [Enabled]
USB11 [Enabled]
USB12 [Enabled]
USB13 [Enabled]
USB14 [Enabled]
USB15 [Enabled]
CPU Temperature [Monitor]
MotherBoard Temperature [Monitor]
PCH Temperature [Monitor]
T_Sensor1 Temperature [Monitor]
EXT_Sensor1  Temperature [Monitor]
EXT_Sensor2  Temperature [Monitor]
EXT_Sensor3  Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Fan Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 1 Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 2 Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 3 Speed [Monitor]
W_PUMP+ Speed [Monitor]
HAMP Fan Speed [Monitor]
CPU Optional Fan Speed [Monitor]
AIO_PUMP Speed [Monitor]
Extension Fan 1 Speed [Monitor]
Extension Fan 2 Speed [Monitor]
Extension Fan 3 Speed [Monitor]
W_FLOW Speed [Monitor]
W_IN Temperature [Monitor]
W_OUT Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Core Voltage [Monitor]
3.3V Voltage [Monitor]
5V Voltage [Monitor]
12V Voltage [Monitor]
CPU Q-Fan Control [Auto]
CPU Fan Smoothing Up/Down Time [0 sec]
CPU Fan Speed Lower Limit [200 RPM]
CPU Fan Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Control [Auto]
Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 1 Smoothing Up/Down Time [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 1 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 1 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Control [Auto]
Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 2 Smoothing Up/Down Time [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 2 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 2 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 3 Q-Fan Control [Auto]
Chassis Fan 3 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 3 Smoothing Up/Down Time [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 3 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 3 Profile [Standard]
HAMP Fan Q-Fan Control [Auto]
HAMP Fan Q-Fan Source [CPU]
HAMP Fan Smoothing Up/Down Time [0 sec]
HAMP Fan Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
HAMP Fan Profile [Standard]
Extension Fan 1 Q-Fan Control [DC Mode]
Extension Fan 1 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Extension Fan 1 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Extension Fan 1 Profile [Standard]
Extension Fan 2 Q-Fan Control [DC Mode]
Extension Fan 2 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Extension Fan 2 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Extension Fan 2 Profile [Standard]
Extension Fan 3 Q-Fan Control [DC Mode]
Extension Fan 3 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Extension Fan 3 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Extension Fan 3 Profile [Standard]
AIO_PUMP/W_PUMP+ Control [Disabled]
U31G1_1 [Enabled]
U31G1_2 [Enabled]
U31G1_3 [Enabled]
U31G1_4 [Enabled]
PSPP Policy [Auto]
Fast Boot [Disabled]
AMI Native NVMe Driver Support [Enabled]
Boot Logo Display [Disabled]
POST Report [5 sec]
Boot up NumLock State [Enabled]
Wait For 'F1' If Error [Enabled]
Option ROM Messages [Enabled]
Interrupt 19 Capture [Disabled]
Setup Mode [Advanced Mode]
Launch CSM [Disabled]
OS Type [Other OS]
Setup Animator [Disabled]
ASUS Grid Install Service [Enabled]
Load from Profile [6]
Profile Name [8h 4125 3400]
Save to Profile [6]
CPU Core Voltage [Auto]
VDDSOC Voltage [Auto]
1.8V PLL Voltage [Auto]
BCLK Frequency [Auto]
CPU Ratio [Auto]
DIMM Slot Number [DIMM_A2]
Bus Interface [PCIEX16/X8_1]
Core Performance Boost [Auto]
Memory interleaving [Auto]
IOMMU [Auto]
Global C-state Control [Auto]
Power Supply Idle Control [Auto]
DRAM ECC Enable [Auto]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Auto]
Mode0 [Auto]
I've never owned a 2xxx CPU, but there is easy to find information via google to get you started.

best settings for 2700x on crosshair 7 - Google Search
 

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@VnnAmed This was written based on older BIOS and Ryzen Master versions, but the principle should still be the same. I can't confirm because I don't have my 2700X anymore though so if you have any questions give me a shout.


The biggest difference from when I first wrote that is that you can now use BIOS to change EDC values while using PE 3 whereas when I first wrote it you could only use Ryzen Master in BIOS.

The benefit to that method is that you achieve the same all-core speed (without downclocking) during all workloads and still maintain the ability to clock higher during fewer-core and single-core workloads.

Edit:
You can also use a negative offset on the CPU voltage with that method. You'll have to play with it to determine what's stable for you.
I knew you'd be the right guy for this question!

While you're around, can I ask what power settings you've settled on for your stable OC?
 

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I knew you'd be the right guy for this question!

While you're around, can I ask what power settings you've settled on for your stable OC?
Too be honest -- I haven't. I still have random reboots at super light loads with the EDC bug. It seems there are guys with the CH8 that are experiencing the same. When my CPU is at the highest frequencies (4.65GHz+) under light loads it will sometimes shutdown. I've tried giving it a little more voltage, but haven't found anything that cures it completely. Again, this is with the EDC bug.

With normal PBO my CPU never hits 4.6GHz so I'm guessing it's just not a better specimen.

I'm hoping the new PBO Fmax feature from the The Stilt makes it down to us so I can see if that cures that problem. It seems it makes the CPU behave the same way as the EDC bug, but in a designed way that at least The Stilt understands.
 

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Too be honest -- I haven't. I still have random reboots at super light loads with the EDC bug. It seems there are guys with the CH8 that are experiencing the same. When my CPU is at the highest frequencies (4.65GHz+) under light loads it will sometimes shutdown. I've tried giving it a little more voltage, but haven't found anything that cures it completely. Again, this is with the EDC bug.

With normal PBO my CPU never hits 4.6GHz so I'm guessing it's just not a better specimen.

I'm hoping the new PBO Fmax feature from the The Stilt makes it down to us so I can see if that cures that problem. It seems it makes the CPU behave the same way as the EDC bug, but in a designed way that at least The Stilt understands.
Interesting. I don't have that problem. I did, but not now - trying to think what I did to stop it..... I will let you know when (if!) I remember what I did....

How about the switching frequencies? do you use those much?

I've not seen anything about the 'PBO Fmax' feature from The Stilt yet. Isn't there an Fmax setting in our bios? Would you mind sharing which thread that's in so I can have a read about it?
 

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Interesting. I don't have that problem. I did, but not now - trying to think what I did to stop it..... I will let you know when (if!) I remember what I did....

How about the switching frequencies? do you use those much?

I've not seen anything about the 'PBO Fmax' feature from The Stilt yet. Isn't there an Fmax setting in our bios? Would you mind sharing which thread that's in so I can have a read about it?
Yeah, I've played with switching frequencies. That didn't help so I am just running it at Extreme.

It's over in the CH8 thread. Shamino dropped a couple beta BIOS versions with it. The Stilt said there is nothing that would prevent it working on a CH7 and that it's up to ASUS to decide if they want to include it.
 
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Yeah, I've played with switching frequencies. That didn't help so I am just running it at Extreme.

It's over in the CH8 thread. Shamino dropped a couple beta BIOS versions with it. The Stilt said there is nothing that would prevent it working on a CH7 and that it's up to ASUS to decide if they want to include it.
I'll have a look - thanks. Don't suppose Shamino mentioned if we're getting any more bios releases on C7H? :rolleyes:
 

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I'll have a look - thanks. Don't suppose Shamino mentioned if we're getting any more bios releases on C7H? :rolleyes:
No I haven't seen anything from him about a BIOS for us.
 

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We should get a new bios for the Ryzen 4000 support, thats for sure.
 

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I think we already support it.
3103 bios still doesn't support Zen 3 and Crosshair VII didn't get a a version with agesa 1.0.8.1 like X570 and B550 Asus boards which have first Zen 3 support. Maybe Asus will give a beta in December, I don't expect it to be released in October.
 

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3103 bios still doesn't support Zen 3 and Crosshair VII didn't get a a version with agesa 1.0.8.1 like X570 and B550 Asus boards which have first Zen 3 support. Maybe Asus will give a beta in December, I don't expect it to be released in October.
It's my understanding that the AGESA Combo versions are the ones that will first support the next gen CPUs. AGESA version numbers are re-used. I think we will get further AGESA updates, how many is anyone's guess. They ddn't want us to have Ryzen 4000/5000 (whatever they're going to call them) support in the first place.
 

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It's my understanding that the AGESA Combo versions are the ones that will first support the next gen CPUs. AGESA version numbers are re-used. I think we will get further AGESA updates, how many is anyone's guess. They ddn't want us to have Ryzen 4000/5000 (whatever they're going to call them) support in the first place.
1.0.8.1 it's a combo version with already implemented microcodes, but the problem is when Asus will release non public beta like we usually get here from some users in this thread, that's keeping me from selling 3900X, but I will also more money if I'll sell it later. Asus is always late to the party.
 
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