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My 2070 was $469 after rebates. The cheapest Vega 64 I could find was $420. That's within $50 of each other.

After my 390s, which hit 94c and throttled NO MATTER WHAT, I was really turned off by AMD cards, but thought I would see what the RX 5 series and Vega offered, and it was more of the same. Power hungry, hot, over-clocked previous gen cards with very little improvement. I'll see what Navi is like, but I've really lost hope with AMD.
 

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My 2070 was $469 after rebates. The cheapest Vega 64 I could find was $420. That's within $50 of each other.

After my 390s, which hit 94c and throttled NO MATTER WHAT, I was really turned off by AMD cards, but thought I would see what the RX 5 series and Vega offered, and it was more of the same. Power hungry, hot, over-clocked previous gen cards with very little improvement. I'll see what Navi is like, but I've really lost hope with AMD.
I loved Hawaii but people didn't understand it. It was designed to run at the target temperature of 95c and it would balance max temp+fanspeed+clock speed. I just don't like the high pitched noise of fans.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review/5
 

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I loved Hawaii but people didn't understand it. It was designed to run at the target temperature of 95c and it would balance max temp+fanspeed+clock speed. I just don't like the high pitched noise of fans.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review/5
Yup, 290x was great with a little bit of time spent on it. Kept my 290x at 1125core/1500mem with a bump in volts, power limit and fan speed at 70%. This was on a reference Sapphire 290x and it never throttled at all. In fact in my case (Thor V2) it never really even hit 90*C no matter how long I played.
 

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The last AMD card I had before my VII was a 6950 unlocked to a 6970...so it's been a minute for me. I like screwing around with Vega but it's not the best price for performance (wattage being the primary problem).
 

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which gpu

the 1660ti is less than the gtx 1070 and has tested better than the rx580 (I have 2 of those) the 580s run about $200, the 1660ti is less than 300 and the 1070s are still high. Watch the youtube reviews and I think you will agree.
 

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So what test/game should I run and post to see how bad I'm bottlenecked? I've already tested out many of the games I wanted to play maxed out at 60fps, and they're ALL running butter smooth, but I'd like to post some benchmarks/fps numbers to see just how bad it is vs. what everybody was expecting. Someone also mentioned they wanted to know because they still had a 9590 laying around. So let me know and I'll run and post results.
 

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I mean, I ended up snagging a used 1080 for $371 shipped and most of the time it is faster than Vega 64, reason I say that is because I do tend to be more of an AMD fan than Nvidia as I was seriously considering jumping from my R9 290X to a Vega 64, but just everywhere I looked the 1080 was just cheaper and not by like a few dollars but sometimes upwards of $70. So I ended up with it instead. I mean the Vega 64 isn't a bad card, its just extremely power hungry. The RX 590 is just a rehashed RX 580 with a higher factory overclock, so my recommendation would be to either wait for that to go on sale at RX 580 prices, get an RX 580 for really cheap or look at a 1070 ti/1080 as those are hovering around the same price with about a +/-5% performance gap 9 times out of 10. But if you are a die hard AMD fan like me to an extent, the options are really few and far between which is why I ended up with a GTX 1080 instead of a Vega 64 because the prices just aren't there where they need to be to be compelling.
 

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I mean, I ended up snagging a used 1080 for $371 shipped and most of the time it is faster than Vega 64, reason I say that is because I do tend to be more of an AMD fan than Nvidia as I was seriously considering jumping from my R9 290X to a Vega 64, but just everywhere I looked the 1080 was just cheaper and not by like a few dollars but sometimes upwards of $70. So I ended up with it instead. I mean the Vega 64 isn't a bad card, its just extremely power hungry. The RX 590 is just a rehashed RX 580 with a higher factory overclock, so my recommendation would be to either wait for that to go on sale at RX 580 prices, get an RX 580 for really cheap or look at a 1070 ti/1080 as those are hovering around the same price with about a +/-5% performance gap 9 times out of 10. But if you are a die hard AMD fan like me to an extent, the options are really few and far between which is why I ended up with a GTX 1080 instead of a Vega 64 because the prices just aren't there where they need to be to be compelling.

It's true. V56 is the only price for performance oriented card when it's on sale. 1080s are very cheap on eBay and FB right now. However, if you like tuning your system, the 1080 just doesn't do it for a lot of us enthusiasts.
 

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UPDATE:

I've got my 2070 under water, O/Cd to 2070/7601 and hitting WELL over 60FPS in every game, all sliders to the right. This is hands down the happiest I've ever been from a GPU purchase. For the first time, there isn't a game that I have to compromise on, and there aren't ANY power or heat issues (Full load for hours she doesn't go above 45c). Ray Tracing, PhysX, Hairworks, EVERYTHING enabled. I couldn't be happier. Mostly 100+ fps, with occasional dips into the 70s. Absolutely amazing card, and worth every penny. Thanks everyone for their input, and here's to hoping AMD can bring me back at some point in the future.
 

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The last AMD card I had before my VII was a 6950 unlocked to a 6970...so it's been a minute for me. I like screwing around with Vega but it's not the best price for performance (wattage being the primary problem).
Wattage and heat is a big concern with vega indeed ... Wish they would have fixed this long ago before they started blasting us with those new drivers ... We need stability over additional funcions

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Wattage and heat is a big concern with vega indeed ... Wish they would have fixed this long ago before they started blasting us with those new drivers ... We need stability over additional funcions

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That’s why I had to move from my 290X to team green, the drivers were just too temperamental, even though I’m a team red fan by heart I had to skip Vega because of the dodgey drivers and the fact it takes a nuclear power plants to power one (well not that bad but you know what I mean), Navi seems to be in an even worse spot.
 

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why not a 5700 at $350?

all though, if those two are the only options. get the VEGA 64 100%
 

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why not a 5700 at $350?

Navi just isn’t in the best price:performance bracket at the moment, you got the 5500XT which is only good with pci-e gen 4 because of the 8x pci-e lanes, 5600XT would need to be about $40 cheaper to be compelling, 5700 would need to be $280-$320, and the 5700XT would need to be $379-$399. The prices on older Pascal, Vega and Polaris kinda outshine Navi when it comes to value. Sure you get a warranty with a new card but most people aren’t really worried about that considering you can get a 1070 for less than $200, 1070 ti for about $250 and a 1080 for around $300-$350. The only difficult part is trying to find a card that wasn’t abused by mining its whole life.
 

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Got a 5700 and it is about twice as fast as my GTX 1060 or my R9 290. Uses about same amount of power. It's reference, tho, and i got it for 330$. I love it better than my 5700XT.
 
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