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Well been looking for some info about AM2... just found out that AMD had released this type of chip cause they said AM3 wasn't ready for the market...<br><br>
Well if your running a S939 and your buying a new AM2 mobo well then you also need a new CPU and DDR2 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown"><br><br>
Also seen that AM2 mobo's has the Nforce 5 chipset and HyperTransport 3.0-interlink (whatever that means... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"> ) (S939 has only HyperTransport 1.0-interlink. )<br><br>
Now my question is (cause i'm already getting new hardware), is it better to get AM2 or just keep it with my S939 ? I don't think AM2 is a temporaly thing and think it's just the same as S939... But has AM2 better performance ? (my mind says DUH !<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> ) but i heard someone that the DDR2 wasn't that al great). Oh btw when i say Asus and DFI everybody yells DFI ! could somebody explain me why that is (i'm not choosing a board on OC abilities but more on reliability <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> )<br><br>
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I say stick with what you have and see what amd brings out then make you decision
 

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Don't upgrade from 939, you will see little if any performance increase. If anything get a nice dual core 939 cpu, like a x2 3800 or 4400 and get 2gbs of ram.
 

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Hello <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
As far as im aware the diference between AM2 and 939 is negligable.<br><br>
The CPU architecture is nearly idenetical with the same number of ops per cycle.<br><br>
The DDR2 standard is supposed to increase memory bandwidth but the increased bandwidth is at the demise of low timings.<br><br>
This negates the use of faster bandwidth memory if you lose the tight timings.<br><br>
On the other hand Intel have been using DDR2 for sometime, but Intel is not so picky of tight timings and prefers greater bandwidth. This is where I can see the benefit of DDR2.
 

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If you're already running S939, I really wouldn't spend the money for an AM2 rig, just spend the cash on a core2duo setup. There isn't a big enough performance boost to warrant replacing your motherboard, cpu and ram for AM2.<br><br>
However if you're making a whole new system and dont want to spend the cash for a core2duo system, then Am2 is really nice as DDR2 ram is cheaper then just DDR400 now.
 

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Ok well the budget is huge... just wan't a nice and fast performing rig. So an S393 rig with an nice X2 cpu, 2 GB DRR, and SLI will do the trick for another 2/3 years ?
 

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It should do
 

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if you havea huge budget is huge then definatly go for a core 2 system wait for k8l to switch back to amd nex year
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ok well the budget is huge... just wan't a nice and fast performing rig. So an S393 rig with an nice X2 cpu, 2 GB DRR, and SLI will do the trick for another 2/3 years ?</div>
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IMO yes that will last mate.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ok well the budget is huge... just wan't a nice and fast performing rig. So an S393 rig with an nice X2 cpu, 2 GB DRR, and SLI will do the trick for another 2/3 years ?</div>
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Yeah I would say so.<br><br>
Personally I would not go dual cards and just get the fastest single card you can afford. Bear in mind that DX10 is round the corner when making a graphics card choice. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ok well the budget is huge... just wan't a nice and fast performing rig. So an S393 rig with an nice X2 cpu, 2 GB DRR, and SLI will do the trick for another 2/3 years ?</div>
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If the budget is huge, then I would not invest in old(er) technology. There are three options:<br><br>
- Get an AM2 rig. Although performance will not exceed that of 939 right away, at least you'll be ready for the new AMD bad boys when they come out.<br>
- Wait for AMD's next move; I think the next stuff should be coming in early 2007 (correct me AMD boys)<br>
- Move to the Intel platform if you can't wait, since Core 2 Duo currently wipes the floor with anything AMD has to offer right now.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yeah I would say so.<br><br>
Personally I would not go dual cards and just get the fastest single card you can afford. Bear in mind that DX10 is round the corner when making a graphics card choice. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"></div>
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not all cards support DX10 ? then i will wait with getting a new GFX.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">not all cards support DX10 ? then i will wait with getting a new GFX.</div>
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Well the DX10 technology is fairly imminent (Chrismas ive heard)<br><br>
Saying that though current cards perform very well and there are few games that cannot run at full detail on these cards.<br><br>
DX10 also requires Vista to run I have heard. Im sure the more informed guys will be able to advise on this matter <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
We are all waiting for these imminent DX10 cards <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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well am2 is a mix bag of crap at the moment, no one knows what it will and wont support in the future , so its a gamble at best really.<br><br>
C2D is known and loved at the moment by all, but for future upgrade's i doubt 775 will stay around much longer.<br><br>
Oh and you only need to wait till around november for dx10 cards to appear from nvidia, ati will release around Q1/Q2 2007
 

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Not all cards?<br><br>
And this moment NO cards support DX10!<br><br>
The first generation DX10 cards will be out in November (so I heard), but those will be high-end, high-power, high-heat, high-money cards, and possibly filled with bugs (plus, Vista won't be out until January at the earliest, so no advantage of DX10 yet). I'd wait a good while for DX10 cards (at least second generation, and SP1 for Vista - I'd say half a year or so).<br><br>
Any thoughts on the platform? Tell us if Core 2 Duo is an option, or that the mere mentioning of Intel gives you allergic reactions...
 

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right now just go with a good x2 the 3800's have getting great overclocks and a couple of gigs ram wait until DX10 comes out by then the amd chips will be out (hopefully) and you can make up your mind what platform to go with.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If the budget is huge, then I would not invest in old(er) technology. There are three options:<br><br>
- Get an AM2 rig. Although performance will not exceed that of 939 right away, at least you'll be ready for the new AMD bad boys when they come out.<br>
- Wait for AMD's next move; I think the next stuff should be coming in early 2007 (correct me AMD boys)<br>
- <b>Move to the Intel platform if you can't wait, since Core 2 Duo currently wipes the floor with anything AMD has to offer right now</b>.</div>
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oh quit the bull**** <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Mad"> i'm not here to compete one another... why is everybody competing that fight... that is something for the brands but not for the commercial users..... jezus and i don't have the money to get the best there is on the market right now.... if someone has a conroe with 256 MB DDR and i have an 64B 3200+ with 2 GB ddr then mine should run better.. get the point <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Mad"> the thing THAT is IMPORTANT is that your rig is perfoming good enough for the games there out now and coming... ffs does everybody want that mclaren F1 cause the ferrari enzo isn't better ? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Mad">
 

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Just as a heads up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
Tone and content of your messages could be taken out of context which will not endear people to help you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">right now just go with a good x2 the 3800's have getting great overclocks and a couple of gigs ram wait until DX10 comes out by then the amd chips will be out (hopefully) and you can make up your mind what platform to go with.</div>
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i will stay with AMD S939 then.... and wait for the DX10 cards to come out
 

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wow you sshould calm down, its true conroe wipes the floor with everything, and for your information they do not cost loads of money at all <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 
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